The prosperity of all other creatures is enough natural appreciation. You don't need to be told 'I appreciate you' rather other expressions matter.

^^Lol, are you saying Riyaale is dismantling Somaliland to make sure power is spent on unnecessarity ventures, to give his tribe a better chance of determing their own affairs? A weakened Somaliland would give him that opportunity, I guess. Meles Zenawi is said to be pursuing the same path. Involve Ethiopia in as much external and internal conflicts as possible so as to be able to declare Tigray land independent amind weak Ethiopia. But I think this is far fetched. The Christian world would not accept curved up Ethiopia-they want it as a bullion to confront surrounding Muslim countries.

These days, there are no fairy tales in which to become a hero. Every wide-eyed naive girl or guy wants a portion of the idealized 'heroism' but they end up in the wrong utopian play - one that gets them literally maimed . They should learn to read the scripts and understand their meaning before they jump on the stage, to later come off it with a limp! Their amateurism is their worst enemy.

Originally posted by Allamagan: As Somalia is caught in the crossfire of Ehiopia and Eritrea so as to Reer Sanaag & reer Sool are unfortunaly caught in crossfire over on-and-off battle between PL & SL. Each time it is the locals who suffer the most heaviest casualties. Allamagan, yes, that is all we are looking at. Nothing more.

So its said they have retreated, but what would be the consequences? Re-arm themselves and head back to Xingalool and Dhahar to retaliate. When they come back, Puntland troops would be there waiting to fight them off. However, once this second round of battles begin, the end is really going to be long. As some might believe, there isn't going to mediators (regional nor international) that would come between Puntland and Somaliland. The only country that would have come was Ethiopia, and the only reason that would have brought them there, would have been the talk of 'terrorists in Sanaag' area. This means business to Ethiopia- they get funded to go to places where supposed 'terrorists' are hidding. American dollars animates the Ethiopians as of late. However, since Sanaag is now a conflict zone and the claim of global terrorists is out of the picture (due to Puntland being deployed there), Ethiopia cannot find any other reason to be there, nor can it choose between these two states. Ethiopian interests in both states is at risk if it were to choose one side. On the one hand, Somaliland, due to proximity to/and border with Ethiopia, there are economic and security interests that cannot be neglected at all. Also, Ethiopia has the privilage of being the only country that currently trades with Somaliland . If Somaliland's border conflicts to its east are solved, this may pave the way for International recognition. Thus, Somaliland trade would have the whole world to trade with. Ethiopia loses out in this prospects and must maintain an almost permanent conflict between Somaliland and Puntland. On the other hand, Puntland is a great political asset to Ethiopia - it might be the only enabling entity in Somalia that has proved sucessful in Ethiopia's procurement of American dollars, all in the name of terrorists in Southern Somalia. Nationally, Puntland is the financier of the TFG, which has given the green light to Ethiopian invasion of Mogadishu. Ethiopia thus is left with no choice but to remain neutral between Puntland and Somaliland, for if it doesn't, it stands to lose alot. The conflict, therefore, becomes a bull-fight between Puntland and Somaliland, while the inhabihants of the region become the grass. As for the advantages and disadvantages of a potentially prolonged war, Puntland has to mobilise its forces and bring its troops in Mogadishu to Sanaag, leaving Ethiopian troops to the control without any interruptions. Puntlanders have done the job of leading Ethiopians to Mogadish so now they can step down, as far as Ethiopia is concerned. This war would exhaust both Puntland and Somaliland's strengths and would prove a major catastrophy for the locals. When both Puntland and Somaliland are exhausted, it would be time for Ethiopia to simply take control of the weak Puntland and Somaliland.

Lol, if the elite doesn't represent the rest of the population, who would? Sorry, you put yourself there (elitism). Now, step up and lets hear it lady...

^^Well said, Laba Xiniinyood. We've always be of similar opinion on many things and on this particular issue, we share the same opinions. Illaa uu ninka ragga yiraahdo, what is mine is mine and mind his own affairs personally, nothing would improve. Waxa markii horeba Boosaaso iyo Hargeysa geeyey reer Sanaag oo iayagoo soo indha cad taladooda ugu dhiibteen ayaaba la yaab leh. Whatever the case, since today's so-called government of Somalia is a federal government, this permits all regions the right to self-organization and representation. Thus, it is a great a deal to think along the lines of setting up an administration independent from Puntland and Somaliland.

Originally posted by ThePoint: ^I would like to get a sense of what Solers from the region want. It seems that Sanaag especially risks becoming a much abused football between SL and PL. Why don't the inhabitants decide which 'team' they want to 'join' or decide they want to go their separate way? It seems to me that the indecisiveness or lack of clarity from the inhabitants prolongs the tension and puts them at peril. Am I being overly harsh here or just plain wrong? I don't know. You are not being harsh, ThePoint. The peril visited on the region's inhabitants is the result of lack of clarity and indecissiveness, as you mentioned. If they don't send out a clear signal, they would remain an 'abused football'.

What positive role do we possibly play? I will give you the chance to represent the human race. I trust that you can advocate?

^^No no no, Chubaka. The world is not going to be empty! Think of all the other species that would be saved as a result of voluntary human extinction! Millions, literally. They would carry on living and planet earth would get the chance recover from all the damages brought on her by the humans. You see, we are not so important . We are not the only creation in the world...and so we are better off gone. Other creatures have a moral right to live too, but as human conducts show, they would die out if we continue to live. So, to save millions of species, why not extaminate only one trouble-some species, us.

I want to introduce you all to a peculiar movement that, considering the cowardness of some of us, may come across as shocking. Here is this movement's logo: I am sure you want to know what VHEM stands for. Well, it stands for Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. This is a movement that wants you to sumbit yourself, voluntary ofcourse, to be made extinct. You see, humans, as mentioned in the Matrix movie, are a 'virus', spreading out on the world and eating up all its resources. The problem here is, there are other inhabitants in the world who have their own 'instrinsic values' to be alive, not because of their usefulness to humans. So, if we continue as were are doing currently, our parasitic tendencies will consume everything and all things in the world. What is the solution? To make human beings become extinct slowly (like the endangered species?). Of course, we can do this faster if large number of people would volunteer to commit mass suicide . But that being close to impossible, unless you are their cult leader, humans would have to die out as quickly as possible on their own. They just have to give up seeking medical help with diagnosed with serious illnesses and also, when injured, let themselves die out, for the sake of all other living and non-living creations of this world. Any questions? For more information, click ' HERE'. Don't worry, by clicking on the link you are not signing your death warrant. First, the VHEM wants to convince you before they try anything else .

Xiinfiniin, I am affraid so sxb. Sheekadu wey cakiran tahay walle and reer Sanaag are really out of their depth in trying to avert war. They don't seem to have a place to turn to: to Puntland and Ethiopians or to Somaliland? Or stand alone and face the wrath of both groups?

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: One thing is certain, Ethiopia wants to go into as far deep as possible. As for the Sanaag situation, as of now, it looks Pl iyo Sland want in ee locals qoryaha isku dhiibaan. I hope reer Sanaag realise these entities have little to offer in terms of peace and progress. It is better if they strike it out on their own. This should be a away out of the predicament. But still, Ethiopian would always keep a hawk's eye on the region.

Lol, Che. Weyba ku guda jiraan as I hear. It should be interesting to see how it goes. Being subject to attacks maalin joogtaba is not a good prospect in life. Months ago, I spoke to few individuals in this forum (privately that is) about the Sanaag issue and I warned about some of the things happening. Lol, TFGda ayaa iyaga la cadayd. Waxaanan ku iri, adeerayaal, soon you would have conflicts and that would bring Ethiopian troops in your door-steps working for Cade and they laughed at it. Maantana, although I wont say 'I told you so', I strongly advice them to have their own ministate until a genuine Somali government is in place. Just like I said year/s ago (even in this forum), until each clan is allowed to have control over its affairs, there would be no sight of genuine peace. We need a flat playing field for all clans to participate in national politics in equal footing. Rejecting the existance of other ministates disadvantages those who dont have an establishment of their own. With some, like the Core Puntlanders, their regional state makes them more advantagious than others. This is inequality that only brews more anger in disadvantaged clans. Now, you see what the existence of single Puntland state has led to? The invitation of Ethiopians when others (because they lack the necessary state apparatus and knowledge) couldnt. The results of such invitation needs no re-telling.

Ask yourself, how does Somaliland come across now? There is a PR campaign going on here and many don't seem to recognise this. Puntland is pulling out to make a point to the International Community and Ethiopia. 'We are under attack' Somaliland seems to be moving forward taking the place of Puntland and as a result creating a new set of problems for itself, which shall occupy it for sometime to come. Thwarting all efforts of international recognition.

^^Oil prospects, would that tempt you? Lol, the whole exercise is coming across rather yo-yo-ish! I jiid aan ku jiide waa xagla daalis!.

Most probably the guy is cooped up in the Mogadishu 'green zone' area and thinks he is the only source of news to the nation .

Maybe they simply fled? .

WAR DEG DEG AH : Masuuliyiintii Puntland & Ciidankoodii oo ka baxay G/sanaag. Xaggeese ku danbeeyeen kooxdii dhanka Somaliland. Xingalool : Wararka naga soo gaadhaya magaalo madaxda degmada Xingalool ayaa waxay sheegayaan in dhammaan ciidamadii iyo masuuliyiintii Puntland ee halkaas ku sugnaa ay xalay gelinkii danbe ka guureeyeen. wariyeyaasha oo khadka telefoonka kula xidhiidhay masuuliyiinta Puntland ee gobolka ku sugnaa qaarkood ayaa waxay u sheegeen iney xilligan ku sugan yihiin magaalada Waaciye oo ku taal laamiga u dhexeeya Qardho iyo Carmo , waxayna intaas raaciyeen iney u sii jeedaan dhanka Boosaaso. ma caddayn sababta ay dib ugu laabteen, waxayse sheegeen in haddii Somaliland soo duusho laga jawaabi doono weerarkooda, waa sida ay hadalka u dhigeene. waxana wararka aannu ka hellay magaalada Xinaglool sheegayaan iney masuuliyiintaasi intii ay halkaas ku sugnaayeen ay sameeyeen gole degaan oo guddoomiye u doortay Yuusuf Carablow. waxa iyaduna wararku intaas ku darayaan in ciidamada Puntland sameeyeen dib u gurasho xeel dagaal , kadib markii ciidammo ka xoog badan la soo dhoobay degaanka dawaco oo aan Xingalool sidaas uga fogeyn. halka wara kale sheegayaan in amar ka yimid DFKMG ay ku bexeen ciidamadaas iyo masuuliyiintaas ka timid dhanka Puntland. mase jirto warar dhex dhexaad ah oo arintaas bixitaanka ah si cad u qeexaya. dhanka kalena ciidmada iyo masuuliyiinta kasoo jeeda dhanka Somaliland ayaa meesha ay joogaan warar is khilaafsan laga soo sheegayaan , hase yeeshee wararka ugu badan waxay tibaaxayaan iney saaka subaxnimadii weydaarteen magaalada Sibbaaye , kuna sii jeedaan dhanka magaalada Dhahar, oo maalintii Isniintii xoog laga soo saaray. Wasiirka Sport-ga ee Somaliland MD. Maxamuud Siciid Nuur oo aan khadka telefoonka kula xidhiidhnay intii aanu kasoo bixin magaalada Ceergaabo ayaa diiday inuu wax waraysi ah bixiyo , wuxuna ku soo gaabsaday inaanu wax waraysi ah bixinayn ilaa uu tago magaalada Dhahar waa sida uu hadalka u dhigaye. isku soo wada duuboo loollankii u dhexeeyey kooxaha ku hirdamaya gacan ku haynta gobolka Sanaag ayaa wareeggii ugu danbeeyey maraya, wixii ka soo kordhana kala soco LaasqorayNet iyo dhahar.com.

^^Hadduu socdaa adeer.

No, we wont forget Northerner. Thanks for the reminder.

The funny thing is, this war which started yesterday are being fought by the tfg clan militia and the resistance movement. It seems the Ethiopians found a way to let the clan militia fight a battle they will lose. PS: The so-called PM's brother has been reported wounded in yesterday's clash. Let us see what today brings; Guul for xaq u dirirka of course.

Hogaamiyayaasha Kooxaha Oo Qaybgalay Dagaalka Iyo Saaka Oo (Muqdisho}12.04-7 Dagaalkii ka dhacay Isgoyska Fagax ayaa waxaa kasoo baxa Saaka warar dheeraad ah oo sheegaya in dagaalkaasi ay ka qeyb galeen rag sar sare oo katirsan Hoggaamiye Kooxeedyadii Muqdisho................................... Dagaalka oo shalay gelinkii dambe si xawli ah uga socday isgoyska Fagax ayaa waxaa ku soo biiray Hogaamiye Kooxeedka Maxamed Dheere oo isaga iyo ciidamadiisa, iyagoo dhanka dagaalka ka soo gaalay Aaga Lafweyn, oo mudooyinkan fadhiisin u aheyd. Maxamed Dheere iyo maleeshiyadiisa ayaa dagaalka ku soo biiray, xilli Kooxaha ka soo horjeeda ay qarka u saarnaayeen in ay la wareegaan Saldhiga Degmada Yaaqshiid, waxaana sidoo kale la sheegayaa Nuur Dakhle oo isna ah Taliyaha Ciidamda iyo Kaaliyaha Kuxigeenka Arrimaha Bulshada Dhagaxtuur uu isna dagaalka ka qeyb galay. dhanka kale Nin la dhashay Raysul Wasaare Geeddi ayaa la xaqiijiyay inuu ku dhaawacmay dagaalkii shalay, iyadoo dhaawaca soo gaadhayna ninkaas la dhashay Mr Geeddi ay warar kala duwan ka soo baxayaan. Xilliga uu dhaawacmayay ayaa lagu soo waramayaa in uu kujiray Dagaalka isla markaana uu lasafnaa Ciidamada Dowladda Federaalka inakstoo Dhaawaciisuna kasoo gaadhay dhanka Madaxa uuna iminka lajiifo Isbitalka Keysaney ee Magaalada Muqdisho, iyadoo saaka lagu wado in loo qaado Magaalada Nairobi. Dagaalkii shalay ka dhacay Agagaarka Fagax ayaa ahaa mid aad u xooganaa, mana jirin wax Askar Ethiopian ah oo ka qeyb galay dagaalkaasi marka laga reebo Madaafiicdii ay kasoo tuurayeen Xarunta Madaxtooyada ee Villa Somalia. Sidoo kale Dagaalkan ayaa waxa uu ku fidey duleedka Suuqa Xoolaha ee Jamhuuriya, halkaasi oo rasaas xoogan ay ka dhaceyso saaka, iyadoo labada dhinaca ay u kala yimaadeen gurmadyo. Wali waxaa jira qasaarooyin kale oo dagaaladaasi ay geeysteen, inkastoo si rasmi ah aaan loo ogeyn, laakiin Isbitalka Madiina waxaa la geeyay 3 ruux oo dhaawac ah sida ay sheegeen saraakiisha caafimaad ee halkaasi. Lama soo sheegin maanta ciidamo Ethiopian ah oo ka qeyb qaatay dagaalkaasi oo haatan noqdey mid goos goos ah. Widhwidh Online News Desk..Media

War de deg ah dagaal aad u qaraar oo hadda ka socda aagga godka SiiSii iyadoona leysku adeegsan. Dagaal qarara ayaa ka socda dhinaca waqooyi ee Muqdisho kasoo u dhaxeya xoogaga xaq u dirika iyo ciidamada DFKMG, iyadoona dagaalka maantu yahay kii ugu qaraaraa ee dhex mara laba ciidan oo Soomalai ah. Dagaala xoogiisa oo laga maqlaayo magaalada oo idil ayaa waxaa ku gacan sareeyo ciidamadaaq u dirika News Update in English www.dayniileone.com

MUQDISHO: Dagaal aad u qaraar oo ka socda deegaanno ku dhow Fagax iyo Juungal, iyadoo dagaalkana uu saameyn... Posted to the Web Apr 12, 12:45 Muqdisho (PP) – Dagaal aad u qaraar ayaa wuxuu ka socdaa deegaanka Fagax iyo Juungal, halkaasoo ay isaga soo horjeedaan ciidammo ka tirsan kuwa Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya iyo kooxo ka soo horjeeda. Madaafiic aad u fara badan ayaa waxay ku dhacayaan goobaha ay dagaallada ka socdaa, waxaana madaafiicda qaarkeed ay ka dhacaysaa xarunta Madaxtooyada ee Soomaaliya (Villa Somalia) iyadoo sidoo kalena Madaxtooyada agagaarkooda ay ku dhacayaan madaafiic kale oo jawaab ah. Dagaalka cusub ayaa billowday 12:00 Duhurnimo ee maanta waxaana la sheegay inay sababeen dhimashada ugu yaraan 9-ruux, iyadoo dadka ku dhaawacmayna lagu sheegay inay sii tiro badinayaan, waxaana dadka goobaha ay madaafiicda ku dhacayso deggen ay billaabeen inay isaga qaxaan. Madaafiicda ayaa waxaa la sheegay inay intooda badan ku dhacayaan goobaha lagu dagaallamaya duleedkooda, ayna ku dhacayaan xaafado ka tirsan Muqdisho, waxaana wararku ay sheegayaan in dadka deegaankaass ay intooda badan ka baaxeen deegaankaas; kaddib markii shalay lagu dagaalamay. Goobaha ay isku horfadhiyaan ciidammada Ethiopia iyo kooxaha kasoo horjeeda ayaa iyagu daggan, kama jiraan wax rasaas ah oo ka dhacaysa, iyadoo wararku ay sheegayaan inay is horfdhiyaan Ethiopian-ka iyo kooxaha ka soo horjeeda. Maxamed Xuseen Jantiile Wakiilka Puntlandpost - Mogadishu E-mail: jantiile@gmail.com