^Lol.It's good to enter a discussion with the right intentions walaal,dont get me wrong lakiin what I dont appreciate is hot headed assumptions and accusations like your a child in nursery being told off for feeding the fish sand when it wasn't even you! :confused: Night folks'---->

Khayr Walaal if your post was a relevant argument in regards to the passage you quoted from me then I could actually reply back some form of an argument to your piece.Lakiin I cant because there is nowhere to hold,grasp or chew.I mean what you're clearly doing is you're voicing your frustrated opinion on something that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the passage you quoted me from or the sentiment I expressed throughout my post. I mean which is better a pious girl who wears a standard sized hijab&abayaad and is modest in front of and behind her family's back or a girl who only wears jilbab because she was forced to...but is then out asking her friends for unmodest clothes to hang out with unmehrem young men when her mother is asleep?Indhaheyga baan ku arkey walaal so dont even try and tell me I'm wrong....Modesty comes from within too and it's up a woman to protect herself.Wearing a jilbab doesnt account to squat when your intentions are impure and your heart is in the wrong place. Hell,western morals and shamelessness all in one post and all you could quote from me was that irrelevant passage?....I'm so lucky(!) Next time just think about where my sentiments' lie instead of charging at me all horns blazing....Haye dhe? :rolleyes:

Lol Aeronwen.I'm assuming the cake will be timir and malab flavoured&icing albeit with a touch of caano geel flavour eh?You know to go along with the traditional theme? I'm in love with that cake lakiin,the pure white one.I like your dresses too.Im a lace and satin girl myself(Or I was)..... Naa I always assumed that I would wear a white gown until I had a dream a lil while ago where I got married.It touched me so much because my aunt (Allahu uu naxaristo)was in it and everyone was wearing Somali attire.So I've kind of scrapped my mental bridal mood boards.All of which contained these beauties below and started afresh.Drastic,maybe but it feels right Guudbeey my baaybis!!!! BTW Does anyone ever have good dreams??Like happy prosperous ones and much loved family member/s who died appear in them?My favourite aunt who passed away 3 years ago Allahu uu naxaristo always seems to be in them smiling.....Ok I'll shut up now before the tears start to well up but I was just curious does anyone have those type and what do they usually signal/indicate...If anything?

I always assumed that most of the sisters wore the jilbab because of their individual choice in regards to their way of covering their modesty. This was until I returned home last summer.... I was surprised when my cousins(also female) and I arrived in abayaads&hijabs and were given dirty looks and sneers.At first we assumed it was because of the whole 'dhaqaan celis' vibe.Lakiin it was because we were apparently 'qaawan'...That was their exact words.There we were sweating profusely dressed in black from head to toe and I was apparently 'naked' in their eyes. I wouldn't conform to the protests from some of the elders when they told me to wear a jilbab for my own 'safety' as they put it :mad: Instead my cousins and I toured the city dressed in decent cotton dirac,gogarad and a scarf that covered us from our head to our hips albeit a small brooch to make sure it didn't move.After the first gasps and initial shock it was fine.Our resident cousins&their friend(females) became comfortable enough with us to tell us the real reason as to why most of them wore jilbab and not a simple dirac set or abayaad. 1)Cheap.Material wise it is much more practical to find&make and much more cheaper then a new dirac or abayaad set. 2)Confidence.The ones who could afford to wear duruc did not because of the whole collectivism of the village and none were brave enough to be individual and wear a different form of modest attire. 3)Reputation.This leads on from the second comment.If they were seen dressed differently they would ultimately be branded a floozy or rebel or much worse(I'll leave you to figure that one out). In response to someone's comment in this thread about them not being legally obliged.Well alot of the girls back home(well the ones I met anyway) their reputation means everything.Even if that means conforming to something they are not happy or comfortable with then so be it.It's how society treats you emotionally that can be ten times more worse then what the law can do.Alot do what they want to do undercover at night away from prying eyes and don the pious act during the day.Excellent(!)...at least they are wearing a jilbab eh? I respect the jilbab when a proud women is wearing it and is comfortable and it is her choice.Lakiin when women only wear it NOT because she feels obliged to because of Allah(swt) but because 'heblayo is and imagine if heblayo's mum saw me' then that my dears, is LAME...LAME,LAME.LAME!

Bishaaro I just saw it on a Somali site and never really thought about that The time has elapsed for editing so I'll ask the mods to snip it out.My bad I'm sucha ditz sometimes but the picture blew me away. Lexus-Loool @ indian I've noticed that too.They are all like "No I'm not having a white gown blabla" and your left thinking they'll wear Somali attire and then they arrive with bindis on their foreheads and that forsaken golden jewellry hanging off their hairline and such :mad: I mean whyyy?! Idil sis I didnt mean big wedding.Now that you mention costs and excess I realised having a simple traditional wedding is usually a fraction of the cost of a white gown and black tie affair ma'aha?Anyway I have always thought about the importance of having a house to go back to after the wedding Loooool.That whole scenario where the couple spend lacag they dont have on a massive aroos and then go back to living with hebel iyo hebelayos parents is crazy!Smart choices sis. Blessed-Loool your post made me laugh.I thought I was the only one who noticed most of the bull like ring exchaning and stuff has a non-Islamic symbolism behind it?Anywhoo I'm glad you had a nice aroos and mabruuk to you and yours Masha'Allah(even tho its late )

Caption 4 Cat;*Wheezing* Mama,Where is my asthma pump??!!

I'm starting to see more and more young couples donning hido iyo dhaqaan as their chosen wedding attire. It's got me thinking..... These are young brides and grooms too.People who were raised here for the most portion of their life.Are people trying to get in touch with their traditional side the more the older they get in qurbaha and longer away from the homeland? I say this because I remember a time straight after the war when alot of the Somali weddings were hugely influenced by European culture if not all.White gown,ring exchanging and swigging lemonade albeit arms locked Loool.The whole sha-bang. I must say it makes me smile everytime I see a beautiful new couple dressed in macawiis iyo koofiya and guntiino albeit with amber and braided hair and calanka in the background.I'm proud that they are proud. I hope to have a traditional wedding but it would be foolish for me not to say there will be no non-Somali influences.I live in London,UK,EUROPE! but I wont let that stop me.I was raised here for Goodness knows how long so it's only normal that some influences borrowed from this nation that has hosted me make an appearance and I wont knock it! Anyway what's your take on it ladies?For the singletons how do you see yourself going about your future wedding plans?(Insha'Allah) and for those of you that have already tied the knot care to share your experiences? and yes before you ask this my excuse for a good ol' natter on weddings and all things that sparkle [ December 30, 2005, 19:32: Message edited by: Rahima ]

^I agree.Why is it sooo many people try to derail the good message and positive sentiment that is intended when a post like this is opened? I dont care what she achieved or didn't achieve in terms of HER personal life lakiin I'm sure the countless Somali women she has helped are forever indebted to her from their hearts. Allahi khayr haa siiyo Insha'Allah ...amiin.

3rd caption; Somalia's parliament becomes a charade of meaningless noises and musical kursis by a load of inarticulate clowns with no class or manners - Hey, wait a minute...(!)

Caption for the 2nd pic. "Yeah my teeth are big but hey ,atleast I wont go blind riding by myself eh?Happy riding Sir!" Cruuuuuuuuuude I know

Anyways it's cute&I agree this place SHOULD be turned into a matrimonial section.I'm soooooo busy trying to juggle my 15th diploma,adopting my 10th child,sending aid to Sierra Leone whilst paying all my bills online albeit waxing my moustache(You know how us undercover feminists be like)... How else will I find a Farax to fill out my already phat wallet&Complete my otherwise pitifully sucessful life? This is my last hope... I say bring it on(!) I can already imagine the wedding....Cybernetic stylee I'll be wearing the suit ofcourse *sigh*

What about all that's right with gabdhaha Soomaaliyeed and their choices? Like those who despite being born in a country that isn't the motherland try their hardest to maintain and preserve their dhaqaan?Whoever they are with..? Anyways to me,simply put if they end up with a man who doesn't embrace their culture then it's nobody's loss but theirs. Whatever spouse you guys choose/have chosen,as you raise your kids(I'A) sprinkle as much culture on them as they grow.They WILL appreciate it later on in life.Dhaqaan is a BEAUTIFUL&PRECIOUS thing..

"next thing you know your on the floor having convulsions!" Exactly...Lol <---Fuuleyad&Proud..... Anywhoo I'll probably miss it in some....strange....weird way.No more free belly&back rubs,excuses to eat VAST amounts of chocalate guiltfree and not do the chores

I vote for Ahura-Formerly known as Aeronwen(It took me a century just to learn how to spell your name and then you change it again lool)...For those insomnia stricken nights where she chopped off her hair and I deliberated about jumping across the atlantic pond.Hey sis. Rahima-Just go the women's section and you'll see why :cool: Viking-As I wouldn't be here without his recommendation (His patience is pretty amazing too Masha'Allah)Hey bro.

Wow mabruuk to you guys Masha'Allah. My highlight was travelling to the states and back home.Had a great time alxamdulilaah.T.Dot this january Insha'Allah.I hope the essence of this wonderful year is surely not lost onto the next Gap year rocks! Also finally waking up from the naive bubble that consumed this singleton head of mine for so long..... Men ARE indeed %&*$£!^! (Not all men but just let me get on my high horse for 3 mins dammit!)

Answer this. Is your bloodline any diferent to a Somali who was born and raised in their homeland? I mean your whole argument is based on environment over genetics.... How the hell can one group of Somali girls generally differ dramactically aesthetics/feature-wise then the community of Somali girls that were raised in their home country?Waa isku mid ma'aha?Looooool walle waa yaab iyo yaabkiisa. ROFLMAO.Walaal say no more...

^No walaal the execution was carried out early today.

Originally posted by The Flipmode..: [QB]You may never compare us with to 'them'. *Gasps* Forgive me your Royal highness whilst I go and wallow in my foolishness probably with other "them".Albeit looking extremely ashamed for even trying to suggest that you are Somali ,and nothing more nothing less..... My sincerest apologies.... :rolleyes:

Walaal you need to differentiate between 'Fact' and personal 'opinion'. This reminds me of some of the excuses and methods people use.You know when they try to give you reasons as to why they support qabyaalism.How they in turn isolate those that dont 'hail' from their tribe.God forbid(!) You know the way they start off with.... "I am just proud of my tribe...." Then... "We have the most educated...." Leading on to.... "We have the prettiest lalala..." Finishing off with full on rant.... "WE ARE NOT LIKE YOU!"........ (Deary me and I was thinking we all shared the same origin..Istubidh me) Walaal how about just saying.... We are ALL Somali for those of you that doubt sijuis....? KHALAAS,FINITO... case closed & if people still disagree then let them wallow in their own self-ignorance is what I say.Maxaa ka galey? Just stop the BS lists and BS comparisons as it's spreading more ignorance&building more walls amongst us

What is this word "Romantic"... :confused: Seriously can some1 fill me in before I'm done tackling Mr Orgilaqe's laundry? (Look at it turning......and turning......and turning...)

Ignore me. Testing one ,two. Underdog.Cover your ears then my dear.I hear earmuffs are back in this season.lol

At which point can I scream?Lol.

No. I'm not going to beat around the bush.I CANT see myself married to a non-Somali lakiin Allah(swt) only knows what's in store.

Lol Bishaaro did he (assuming it was a dude) have a Somali accent coupled with the English or was it just your typical Mr America?

Going to McD's and asking for salad and the Eastern european cashier 'Olga' tells you.... Olga-"Ve have murfins,dow-nuts and abbal bie " *I think lemme ask again..mayB she didnt hear me* Me-"Is there any green SALAD left?" Olga-"Madame ve have murfins,dow-nuts,abbal bie ...Ve also have ice caream" Me-"Listen dear I want to lose this *point to my belly* does it look like I feakin' need ice cream or doughnuts?" Olga-"Im sorry madame im not understanding you" Baaaaaaaaaaaaah :mad: What gets your goat SOL'ers?