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Prime-Minister Abdiwali, where is the final draft of the constitution?

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Taleexi   

Somalia;825284 wrote:
Why do you say that?

Sidiisii baad u hadlaysaa.... Soomaalidu ma kala fiicna .... if you don't respect others .... expect not others to respect you.

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Somalia   

Taleexi;825287 wrote:
Sidiisii baad u hadlaysaa.... Soomaalidu ma kala fiicna .... if you don't respect others .... expect not others to respect you.

I'm just using facts, I don't claim superiority but claim only Puntland's rightful place in the signing of the constitution. We have already had several people, secessionists to Oba, admitting that they are questioning it due to Puntland's involvement, so I must illustrate how this is flawed, not one has been able to give an explanation that is valid to oppose the rule of law.

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To be, or not to be, that is the question:

 

Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer

The Slings and Arrows of outrageous Fortune,

 

Or to take Arms against a Sea of troubles,

And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep

 

No more; and by a sleep, to say we end

The heart-ache, and the thousand Natural shocks

 

That Flesh is heir to? 'Tis a consummation

Devoutly to be wished. To die to sleep,

 

To sleep, perchance to Dream; Ay, there's the rub,

For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come,

 

When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,

Must give us pause. There's the respect

 

That makes Calamity of so long life:

For who would bear the Whips and Scorns of time,

 

The Oppressor's wrong, the proud man's Contumely,

The pangs of despised Love, the Law’s delay,

 

The insolence of Office, and the Spurns

That patient merit of the unworthy takes,

 

When he himself might his Quietus make

With a bare Bodkin? Who would Fardels bear,

 

To grunt and sweat under a weary life,

But that the dread of something after death,

 

The undiscovered Country, from whose bourn

No Traveller returns, Puzzles the will,

 

And makes us rather bear those ills we have,

Than fly to others that we know not of.

 

Thus Conscience does make Cowards of us all,

And thus the Native hue of Resolution

 

Is sicklied o'er, with the pale cast of Thought,

And enterprises of great pitch and moment,

 

With this regard their Currents turn awry,

And lose the name of Action. Soft you now,

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^^^ with that being said, the naysayers need to either explicitly tell us which part of the constitution they disagree with or shut their month.

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Carafaat   

Abwaan;825266 wrote:
don't you think inaad messenger wax ka fileysid Carafaat....Soomaalidu dastuur qoris illaa iyo 2004 baa la ga sugayey oo dad bay mashruuc lacag lagu qaato u noqotay....Cabdiweli walaa kuwa u heesayaaba dastuurkaan waxba kalama socdaan ee waxayba iiskaga niikinayaan muusik loo daaray.

Abwaan, you are right. But still I think the constitution should be something shared by us all. Things like Federalism is not something which we agree upon and its not up Abdiwali and his consultants in the name of Xiinfaniin should decide.

 

I think its unessecary and polarizing for no reason.

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wyre   

Somaali iyo buufis fadhi ku dirir, Iyo nin 20 magac soomaystoo 20 qof iska dhigaya :D :D:D

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Dont you think there should be a landwide referendum on clan federalism who said the people of Somalia want clan federalism war umada rabtiaankooda hala weydiyo.How can one push this constitution while the lower juba middle juba upper shabelle lower shabelle is still under Alshabaab dadkasu manay xuquuq lahayn miyanaay Somali ahayn?

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Carafaat   

Xaaji Xunjuf;825324 wrote:
Dont you think there should be a landwide referendum on clan federalism who said the people of Somalia want clan federalism war umada rabtiaankooda hala weydiyo.How can one push this constitution while the lower juba middle juba upper shabelle lower shabelle is still under Alshabaab dadkasu manay xuquuq lahayn miyanaay Somali ahayn?

Why some are pushing it now is exactly, because not all players are sitting around the table. And one can set the game rules(federal) which most Somali's oppose but is being pushed by one region. Dadka inte hurdaan ayaa laga garsiiniyaa.

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NGONGE   

^^ Don't mix your fights warya. PL deserves its own thread and argument from you, you really shouldn't get it mixed up with this argument over the constitution. ;)

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