The Need for Re-organization and Reform in Puntland (Ismail Geldoon)

[Thankful]

Look at Gagala the people fighting and those deemed from Maakhir, look at the General leading the fight - Puntland support comes from "Reer Maakhir." The people there are not defending Atam! He is the one that has to retreat!

 

You are talking about Xudeedi, who is holding a position that the people back home don't even want. Would Puntland forces be in these area's without local support? But then he says this is about resources or tribes! Then why are the people with Puntland and haven't taken up arms against them??

 

Start seperating the Radical Diaspora from the People back home when it comes to Maakhir, because they are obviously on two different pages. One wants peace and for Atam to leave, others want to make this into resource of tribe based so there can be a war, because they know they are safe and sound!

[The Zack]

Gallad LOOL yea yo. Galladow lakin quick question.. is it any way, shape or form possible that you are always against Puntland for clan reasons? Be honest sxb..

 

 

Duke, I suffer from no ailment. Horta waa nala neceb yahay maxaad u dhahdaan markii labo erey la is dhaafsadaba ?Your daily SOL claim of Puntland being 1/3 of Somalia will fall very short if you agree what your boy Thankful implied. Puntland minus SSC including the entire Maakhir and western bari will be 10% of Somalia, and not 30%

 

Re-visit the map of Somalia or ask me nicely and I will post a very detailed map for you .

[The Zack]

Originally posted by Thankful:

Start seperating the Radical Diaspora from the People back home when it comes to Maakhir,

So now its the diaspora and not the actual reer Maakhir on the ground? Good shift, sxb. On your earlier post, it was very obvious that you were referring to Reer Maakhir and not the "diaspora". Diaspora never "left" in 2008 eheh.

[Thankful]

Ha post what I said, lol. There was never such thing as a state Maakhir back in Somalia! If there was then who was their president and ministers? Where was their capital? So they had a leader right, then why didn't he run for the Puntland presidency and where did he go? The people that broke away was the Diaspora, no one back home even knew there was a new state. Ilka-Jiir was planning to run for years, especially when this alleged state of Maakhir existed. The Part-time Puntlanders and their websites are the "radical" Diaspora Maakhir, they made up the new state and they are the ones I am referring to as they! The people back home are clearly showing who they are with in this battle, they are the ones that are fighting Atam and forcing him to retreat! Do not believe this Maakhir state garbage was something people back home believed in!

[General Duke]

Zack Adeer Lool at the map again lad, Puntland has not lost any region aside from political posturing. Do youknow the distance between Bossaso to Galkacyu or the coastline between Garacad to Bende qasim? The cities of Bossaso, Carmo, Qardho, Garowe, Gallacyu are amongst the fastest growing still in all of Somalia. Adeer in every angle you look at it, Puntland will rain a potent state and the dreams of haters which you are do not quite add up.

 

As for Makhir there is no such thing as an admin, Puntland state create Haylan region as well as Cayn in C of SSC. Thus mo one is going anywhere.

[Gallad]

Zack, I dont hate these hybocrites but I dislike thier way of behaving and treating everyone including the ones they call brothers, kin and etc.

 

I dont know if you remember, we protected them many occations such us in Kismayo, and Galkacyo. They lived under the protection of Hirale for 13 years. No one harm them, and they still bad mouth him til today. A/aziz Ali Bare freed them from Aidid's occupation, and yet they hide Gen. Abdi's name. But I guess pirates are pirates and they is nothing you can do to change them.

 

Thankful and Duke, wahad aragten in tolkina makhir inaka xishaden, but relax guys. Your stulting them in every thread and then make excutions such as Diaspora... and ohhh their websites.... Com'on.

 

Thier websites are way better advanced than your websites. Some of them are bias, some of them are not bias. Some of your websites are the same.

 

The only realist guy I see from Makhir groups is Xudeefi and Nasir. The rest such as Paragon, Kooratursho, Dabshid are not responding to the pirateland.

[Xudeedi]

Silly SSDF cowards with due complexities’, your denial for the existence of a clan and its inherited territories undisputed by the Somali race coupled with your hypocritical admiration for Makhiri leaders employed by the clan fiefdom in Garowe is indeed humorous. Why these men extremely dislikes the Galgala incident is very simple. The Bosaso that thy long adored in SOL, claimed its very affluence as an SSDF territory, has been revealed to be otherwise.

 

The fact that a Makhiri sub-sub-sub-sub clan is battling in the outskirts of Bosaso, tells Somali’s the real demographic makeup of the city. The fact that Abdi-Jamal was employed along with Western Bari Militias conveys many points long hid by clan chauvinist in SOL. Skirmishes took place in towns 10,20,30,40 Killometers from Bosaso inhabited by Makhiri’s, yet you tell us that your clan from Eyl owns the city. It’s as absurd as stating the Balcad clan does not hold any stake in Mogadishu.

 

Makhir State has been a functioning entity prior to birth of the republic and hosts the oldest sultanate in Somalia with a rich history and heritage. The old seat of the entity was Las-Qoray, a city admired by colonist upon their arrival, due to its functioning institutions.

[Xudeedi]

 

This is a map configured by the clan fiefdom in Garowe. Its very clear to the world that the SSDF clan inhabits 1/2 of the northern portion of Mudug, the other inhabitted by the Goldogob subclan. Nugaal excluding Burtinle and Eastern Portion of Bari region.

 

Makhiri country stretches from Ceerigaabo to Bosaso (including any terrain and villages south and west of Bosaso) and the Sool Plateu.

 

Puntland with only SSDF territory is roughly 1/7 of the somali republic. Xudeedi will further reveal facts long waved as a bargainning chip for Garowe.

[Beer-Gaal]

Originally posted by Thankful:

The Zack,

 

And yes it is us and them....us Puntlanders vs. them Radical Diaspora Part-Time Puntlanders.

I thought you Meant (them) as Maakhirs not few Radical Diaspora Part-Time Puntlanders! any way, i have read here long back , when it comes to the subject, you are racist Thnkful i'm going to believe it.you got to stop your racialist attitude towards Maakhir now! .

[General Duke]

Xudeedi as usual gets upset at the truth, Adeer there is no such thing as a Makhir admin it's a figment of your imagination. As for your clan living in villages here and there, so what they make up no more than other population who reside that in that region. Thus again stop making up stories and believing in silly hype that you help parrot.

I support a real state called Puntladn you support a figment of your imagination which no one cares for. It was only few yeas back that you was pushing for Makhir admin and telling us it was the best thing since sliced bread, but to no avail, the people chose Puntland and supported Gen IlkaJiir. They an their Garads are part of the state, yet you are running where trying to divide Bari region in a desperate attempt to match another sub clans and to sound relevent.

 

Another thing Attam has been beaten and will continue to be hunted, Puntland has survived bigger trouble and beter armed groups than this fringe fanatic who is a useless comander and his weak Diaspora supporers.

 

Like we have told you before there is no such thing as Western Bari, or Mahkir admin. There is no reelion or a big civil war, there are no clams at war or making death threats at each other.

 

The elders led by Garad Abdullahi Ali Eid are resiliency in their support for thr beloved state.

 

No one has bought into the fake stories of 25,000 uprooted or

farms in flames torches by an outside clan. Is been more than a month an Galgala has yet to be taken by Attam.

 

Yes Adeer slowly you are realizing that you thought that Attam was Sadam Hussain but he was Mickey Mouse.

 

Thankfull Adeer keep up the good work the only clanist ehere ate those making up stories and claiming regions they only day dream about

[Thankful]

Originally posted by Beer-Gaal:

quote:Originally posted by Thankful:

The Zack,

 

And yes it is us and them....us Puntlanders vs. them Radical Diaspora Part-Time Puntlanders.

I thought you Meant (them) as Maakhirs not few Radical Diaspora Part-Time Puntlanders! any way, i have read here long back , when it comes to the subject, you are racist Thnkful

i'm going to believe it.you got to stop your racialist attitude towards Maakhir now!

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Lol, now "Maakhir people" are a race :confused: ?

 

The people of these area's (my people) are fighting for the sake of peace against Atam! I can never group them all with a small number but very radical and vocal diaspora! When I went to Puntland in 2009, I realized no one has even heard of Maakhir State, it was just an imaginary thing that a few websites created where they showed pictures of like 12 militia men in a line and some guy as the president.

 

You will never hear me talk about how much imaginary land my so-called people hold, or how we have this rich fake history! I have said it so many times! I have been to Puntland and realized everyone is living together peacefully, Bosasso is a city that is controlled by none, every city is becoming more and more diverse! Because where ever there is peace, people will migrate too; and you know what? I love it, and hope they continue to come!

[General Duke]

^^^Nicely put, it's been more than a month and half and this big war has only been waged online by a few desperate websites in support of a defeated and near toothless Al Shabaab agent Attam.

 

Yet Puntland stands, united together and stronger. Inshallah it will continue to do so, regardless of the desperate envy of others.

 

Oh and Makhir is a race now and not the monikar of a certain sub clan.

[Xudeedi]

The helpless old-man (Duke) as usual is frustrating himself with elements beyond his control and reach. The demographic make-up of Bosaso and Bari region won’t be altered with words from a dysfunctional elder. Delusion mixed with hatred would certainly a produce raging fume, thus we only anticipate further nonsense from you.

 

If the war in Galgala never took place, then why did your clan leader (Faroole) visit wounded men crippled in hospital beds? Why was your military chief wounded, resigned and escorted to Dubai? I would certainly recommend a mental treatment, perhaps you’re reaching that age.

 

Truth will prevail over hypocrisy, thus I won’t bother to reason with an old mad man, trapped by delusion.

[General Duke]

There goes Xudeedi again bereft of any facts and getting upset as usual. Adeer I won’t insult your person, because you are not worthy of me stooping so low in this holly month.

 

Lets again stick worth the facts, no doubt you have lost much hair over the past month as you realized the truth. The fact is any clash between armed men produces injuries, deaths and so on, but to describe the Galgala clashes as a major war is wrong.

 

It’s your usual custom to exaggerate and lie about basic clashes we have heard about your myth making regarding the clashes of Majeyahan which you described as the mother of all battles, was a minor clash. You need to calm down, for your sake and stop making stories up which you end up believing.

 

Again there is no such thing as Makhir admin there is only the Puntland state government which runs the affairs of these lands with the consent of the people of Puntland.

 

Dividing these common folk, creating myths with this evil intention will not be tolerated and you and your little outlets are a fringe, a radical desperate fringe that will be called out.

 

Also the clan you claim to speak of have elders, political leaders, military commanders and Mickey Mouse Attam does not speak for them let alone his mouth piece.

[Gallad]

Originally posted by Thankful:

quote:Originally posted by Beer-Gaal:

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Originally posted by Thankful:

The Zack,

 

And yes it is us and them....us Puntlanders vs. them Radical Diaspora Part-Time Puntlanders.

I thought you Meant (them) as Maakhirs not few Radical Diaspora Part-Time Puntlanders! any way, i have read here long back , when it comes to the subject, you are racist Thnkful

i'm going to believe it.you got to stop your racialist attitude towards Maakhir now!

.

Lol, now "Maakhir people" are a race :confused: ?

 

The people of these area's (my people) are fighting for the sake of peace against Atam! I can never group them all with a small number but very radical and vocal diaspora! When I went to Puntland in 2009, I realized no one has even heard of Maakhir State, it was just an imaginary thing that a few websites created where they showed pictures of like 12 militia men in a line and some guy as the president.

 

You will never hear me talk about how much imaginary land my so-called people hold, or how we have this rich fake history! I have said it so many times! I have been to Puntland and realized everyone is living together peacefully, Bosasso is a city that is controlled by none, every city is becoming more and more diverse! Because where ever there is peace, people will migrate too; and you know what? I love it, and hope they continue to come!

Ohhh snap... you are just insulting the Mekharis more and more. You are truely a racist. One who could never stop hating others, other than yours. I hope you know what you write, mise way ka tanbadhisey qafiilka.