President Sharif Ahmed and his problem

[Meiji]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

If the crazy lot of Somaliland and the confused nutcases of Puntland managed it, why not the more civilised ones in the capital of Somalia? It can indeed be done if they all come clean and stop hiding behind all manner of fake banners.

So in your crazy world of reasoning their is unity in Northwestern region and Northeastern region but when one talks about unity of Mogadishu society the guy must be crazy and you get all agitated and irritated by this ''madness''?

 

The sheer hypocricy!

 

There is as much unity in Somaliland entity and Puntland entity as there is in Mogadishu society.

[Meiji]

Paragon,

 

Puntland which is a clan entity and Somaliland which is a clan entity are frauds.

 

Yet, their supporters want to sugar-coat it and want to propagate silly things like ''Republic of Somaliland'' or ''Puntland is great''.

 

Still, the forummers on this board dont get agitated and irritated because 80-90% find themselves on the side of one of those clan entities, but when one mentions good things about Mogadishu society all get agitated and irritated and labell it as ''madness'''.

 

As I said before, all my replies in this topic are nothing but simple facts and only people who suffer from the disease of clannism would intrepret it as something clanish and label it as ''madness'.

[Jacaylbaro]

There is as much unity in Somaliland entity and Puntland entity as there is in Mogadishu society.

Which continent is that sxb ??? ... We all know about the Mogadishu here.

[Meiji]

^^

 

Somaliland unity is a fraud which is propagated by a few, we all know about the deep-seated animosity between the different groups in that region and how not all these different groups are as supportive to the idea of secession as people want to make us believe. Hence why some rather speak of the Berbera-Hargeisa-Bur co triangle.

 

The same for Puntland, not all groups are supportive to the entity and the core is Bosaso-Garowe-Galkac io.

 

Now what makes Mogadishu society any different? Not ALL of its inhabitants need to stand behind one political line, like not ALL inhabitants of Northwestern region and Northeastern region stand behind one political line.

 

 

PS: the Mogadishu ''here'' is not the Mogadishu ''out there''. Get that through your head.

[Emperor]

Yarka iska daaya haka waalinee!

 

Meije there is no such thing as Mogadishu soceity just like there is nothing of Kismaayo society, Bosaaso society or Hargeisa society... they are people and civilians. They are not a political party or hold any one view nor have one spokesperson... perhaps JB represents and speaks for Hargeisa society's political party and veiws, while on the other hand you are the spokesperson of M society in SOL

[Meiji]

First it was define Mogadishu society, after having read the proper definition of it people want to deny the very existence of Mogadishu society.

 

The inhabitants of Mogadishu do not have to be a political party to propagate for their common desires and needs.

 

I simply presented a fact on the ground:

 

The inhabitants of Mogadishu are tired of senseless fighting by factions who have zero consideration for the city and its people. As a consequence the different layers of Mogadishu society (Culamada, Aqoonyahano, Odayaal,Abwaano, Arday etc)made clear their demands in different ways.

 

Why else do you think the daily fighting which was almost characteristic for Mogadishu city has ended? It is because of the unparalleled unity in Mogadishu society and its energetic measures to make clear their demands and pressure all factions to stop their senseless fighting.

 

You and others should welcome it and appreciate it, instead of getting agitated and irritated.

[Jacaylbaro]

Originally posted by Meiji:

^^

 

Somaliland unity is a fraud which is propagated by a few, we all know about the deep-seated animosity between the different groups in that region and how not all these different groups are as supportive to the idea of secession as people want to make us believe. Hence why some rather speak of the Berbera-Hargeisa-Bur co triangle.

 

The same for Puntland, not all groups are supportive to the entity and the core is Bosaso-Garowe-Galkac io.

 

Now what makes Mogadishu society any different? Not ALL of its inhabitants need to stand behind one political line, like not ALL inhabitants of Northwestern region and Northeastern region stand behind one political line.

 

 

PS: the Mogadishu ''here'' is not the Mogadishu ''out there''. Get that through your head.

Waar bal indho iska ridkan eega ....

 

 

What is unity we're talking about here. If Somaliland people do not line in one idea then that is normal in everywhere but it is still POLITICALLY.

 

What is the unity you're talking about in Mogadish where hundreds are dying everyday coz of war between groups, warlords and others ?

 

They are fighting because they are UNITED miyaa ?

[NGONGE]

^^ That is what he's saying, saaxib. Where is Juje?

[Thierry.]

What is the unity you're talking about in Mogadish where hundreds are dying everyday coz of war between groups, warlords and others ?

Lool JB you over do yourself saxiib, adeer the city hasn’t been this peaceful since summer of 2006, everyday groups are uniting behind the banner of governance, the only armed group who are killing the locals is incidentally led by a man from your region so spare us the pretentious talk.

 

Meiji saxiib these folks want you to call it Banadirland and create a website with .org

 

I dont think there is an official Mogadishu society but common folks who want no violence in their streets and don’t want foreign troops in their city, they can lobby the government (which they are doing) and it should listen to their concerns.

[NGONGE]

^^ So you went round in a big circle and ended up upsetting everyone and not making anyone happy? Not even Meiji!

 

Is there or is there not a Mogadishu society? Are they united? Spare us the nonesense and all that Banadirland assumption, Thierry.

[Thierry.]

First I can’t speak for the new brother Meiji, in my view as I said there is no official organ that represents Mogadishu and the surrounding areas, however common folks are united in local ideals which is the foundation behind any region. The local folks are formulating a regional state

 

Second question what do you mean united? that every tom dick and harry believe in the same thing

[Jacaylbaro]

No wonder Juje has gone with the thin air and made himself busy reporting a demolished 5 star hotel ,,,,

[Meiji]

Mogadishu city hasn't been peacefull since 2006, and this time it is not because one faction took control of the city but because of the unity of Mogadishu society in their demands for peace and stability and peaceful solution of differences.

 

This unity and lack of conflict in the city is what makes people like Ngonge, Emperor, JB and all those messed up by clannism nervous since they have pursued a PR tactic of ''Mogadishu is in mess, we are doing fine, yibii yeah''

 

 

Also, the very notion of unity and peace in Mogadishu has become so weird to their mind that they call it madness.

 

 

Theirry,

 

The inhabitants of Mogadishu do not need a paper-administration that is ruled by a clique of political opportunists who keep the people in check with false promises ala Somaliland and Puntland.

 

What those people need is for society to be united in their demands for basic things as peace, stability, freedom, representative government etc. After this awareness and unity, comes the path to a genuine democratic city government that takes the society's wishes as its foundation.

 

Again, only those who are clannist and wrongfully consider the inhabitants of Mogadishu as their ''enemy'' will get irritated and nervous at the hearing of such positive views.

[Meiji]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

^^ So they are

ALL

in agreement over the foreign troops now? This is your final answer. No 50/50 or calling a friend. You reject the help of the audiance. Fine. Lets play who wants to win the caliin.

 

Muqadishu is united. Aaaah..I'll come back later...home time...

This is what they understand under unity. That ALL are in agreement.

 

But when we use the same definition of unity to their situation and prove that there is great disunity within Somaliland on their basic ideology of ''secession'' we get sorry excuse from JB:

 

''If Somaliland people do not line in one idea then that is normal in everywhere but it is still POLITICALLY.''

 

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As for the Puntland folks, there is no unity.

 

Even within Bosaso-Garowe-Galkac io there is no unity, let alone the Western regions.

 

 

Again as said: There is as much unity in Somaliland and Puntland as there is in Mogadishu.

[Malika]

^This is what I hear you say, 'The Clan' should organise it self and come together as it was done in SL and PL, correct?

 

I dont get you, your accusing others of being 'tribal minded' but yet your on and on about this 'Mogadishu Society', surely that puts you in the same boat as those you accuse ,dont you think?