Major Clan War Feared in Kismayo, Somalia

[Castro]

Originally posted by N/AA:

Is Ethiopia practicing divide and conquer? Most likely, hell they probably are but even so they did not engineer the Kismaayo problem nor did they participate in it.

So the Ethiopians are practicing divide and conquer, you agree, and they also "told" the Gedo boys they could defend themselves but, you insist, they "did not engineer" the Kismaayo conflict. Atheer, ma anaa waalan mise Cadan baa laga heesayaa? Do you even read what you write?

[Gabbal]

What part did you not understand? Clearly there is something wrong with your comprehension?

 

Ethiopia has nothing to do with Kismaayo. Ethiopia is not the one that named an unfair administration that consisted of men from Puntland, Ethiopia did not start an altercation within Kismaayo, Ethiopia is not the one that set up roadblocks on the outskirts of Kismaayo in an attempt to harass travelors. Ethiopia did none of that. I believe you are not genuine in blaming Ethiopia for what happened. It will not make you any more of a nationalist.

 

I am not defending Ethiopia but Somalis said gaal dil gartiisana sii, there is something fishy in your argument sxb. Perhaps it is for show?

[Castro]

Originally posted by N/AA:

Ethiopia has nothing to do with Kismaayo.

Nothing? So Kismaayo is now a sovereign state on a different continent? Are you sure Ethiopia has nothing to do with Kismaayo. Perhaps you believe Ethiopia is a friend of Gedo like JB believes its a friend of Somaliland.

 

Ethiopia is not the one that named an unfair administration that consisted of men from Puntland, Ethiopia did not start an altercation within Kismaayo, Ethiopia is not the one that set up roadblocks on the outskirts of Kismaayo in an attempt to harass travelors.

Who named the unfair administration? The TFG? Well who hand picked the TFG? Can you think outside the box a little? Go up the food chain perhaps? Ethiopia doesn't have to do every little thing. There's always some misguided souls tripping over each other to do its dirty work.

 

Ethiopia ku faanin maayo but there is something fishy in your argument. Perhaps it is for show?

Perhaps it is. Instead of attacking my motives, may be you could focus on what I said. Surely on some level it makes sense to you.

[Gabbal]

Here we go. :rolleyes:

[xiinfaniin]

Wayxaka yaa Castro!

 

You really understood the Kismayo issue for what it’s; a tribal war that has nothing to do with resistance or any fight against Ethiopia or against tfg for that matter. These boys want to rule the city. Anyone who agrees with that simple proposition of theirs will be their king. They did it before and struck a deal with some of Mogadishu warlords. They tried to do it again but failed during Court’s brief rule. And now they are doing quite boldly with this defunct entity called tfg. I don’t blame them for that’s the exact nature of Somalia’s dirty politicking. In fact, when compared to what Ina Yey did to ascend to Somalia’s top seat, this group’s actions amount to a mere saqiirah in the crime-against-Somali-nation index. Their fight is purely to enhance their clan's interest no matter how they fake it and claim otherwise. It’s probable they would ditch Ethiopia and join the Muqaawamah if this thing gets hot and does not work as they wished.

[Castro]

^^^^^ Inshallah one day we'll all be on the same page atheer. One day.

 

Originally posted by N/AA:

Here we go. :rolleyes:

Actually, what you should have said is "here we go again". Meaning these small conflicts will continue to distract us from the enemy (who by the way is fueling them) until people like mudane HornAfrik resist the temptation to celebrate shallow and superficial victories of his kinsmen.

 

And you had the audacity to rebuke The Duke for celebrating his own victories.

 

Hada waxaan ogaaday inaanan walnayn ee in Cabuudwaaq laga heesayo.

[Gabbal]

Originally posted by Castro:

 

 

Hada waxaan ogaaday inaanan walnayn ee in Cabduudwaaq laga heesayo.

Rageedi, walle rageedi ayaad tahay.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Castro, wax 'Reer Gedo' la yiraahdo meesha ka dagaalamaayo ma jirto. It is a myth perpetuated by some who want inay isku fidiyaan Kismaayo iyo nawaaxigeeda. Kuwaasna waa reer Cabuudwaaq, Galgaduud.

 

Reer Garbahaareey and Reer Buuloxaawo are decent, peace-loving people. Dad dhul balaarsi rabo iyo waxaas ma'aha oo deegaankooda barwaaqeysan ku filan.

 

Kuwaas Galgaduud ka imaaday oo caradaas gaduudan kasoo cararaayo ayaa magaca Garbahaareey iyo Buuloxaawo ku qaraabanaayo. They fought the native settlers of these two towns in '90s and are still causing trouble with; they initiated many other wars with other people in other gobols and now Kismaayo. Waa dad, it seems, dagaal qabyaaladeed iyo dhul balaarsi wax aanan ahayn wax kale garan.

[Gabbal]

Allow nin aan wax ogeyn ha cadaabin.

[Castro]

MMA, we all know as Somali clans we have our issues. We fought and made up over the centuries only to fight again. That's just the nature of clans. Nowadays, we're under occupation. Occupiers will exploit the differences, weaknesses, historical conflicts and everything they can to distract the occupied populations.

 

What is happening in Somalia (coast to coast) is either engineered by, approved by, instigated by, supervised by, financed by, overseen by, armed by, fueled by, exploited by, exacerbated by or directly committed by Ethiopia.

 

Anyone here who believes otherwise is a damn fool. And you can quote me on that.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

hat is happening in Somalia (coast to coast) is either engineered by, approved by, instigated by, supervised by, financed by, overseen by, armed by, fueled by, exploited by, exacerbated by or directly committed by Ethiopia.

Taas wax la hubo waaye, qof diidan oo damiir Soomaaliyeed ku jiro ma jirto.

 

Ninkaas hadda Xabashadda u horseedo oo Sanaawi la leeyahay Soomaaliya inkastoo uu ku sugnaa '80s, haddana Soomaali barasheed waa u dhimaneed. There is a true, favourite story of his that he repeats to whoever tells him Soomaalis can unite.

 

It was in mid '90s [perhaps 1994] mar uu arkay Soomalidii ku heshiin weysay Soomaali Galbeed, xataa ku heshiin waayeen magaca gobolkaas ee Xabashadda gumeysato. Markaas ayuu iskugu yeeray odey dhaqameedyadii, kuna yiri soo shira ee wax aad idinka isku raacsantihiin la imaada. Sanaawi markaas naceyb Soomaali ma qabin, oo abaalkii Soomaalida u sameysay wali ku jirtay xasuustay.

 

Calaa kuli xaal, odeyaashii inay soo shiraan iska dhaafee, Sanaawi ayee inay u kala dhuuntaan bilaabeen, oo ku yiraahdeen balan ayaa kaaga qaadeynaa wax walba inaa kuu sameyno haddaa u dhiibtid maamulka dhulkaan qof naga dhashay. Kuwa magac qabiil in loogu magacdaro gobolka haba yaraatee waa diideen iyagoo u dhuumaanaayo u sheegay taas; kuwa kalena ku yiri magacaas wax aanan ahayn wax kale soconaayo ma jirto; they too told him that in secret.

 

He eventually decided to name the occupied land The Fifth Region ['Kilil'] and later Soomaali Regional State.

 

Those events truly taught Sanaawi cashar weyn about the Soomaali mentality and their qabyaalad-based, everything-for-tol [not their nation], small-thinking pysche. He still uses it as an advanced technique today as evidenced by what is currently happening in Soomaaliya.

[General Duke]

Originally posted by Allamagan:

balse game-ka Yeey lala cayaarayo ayaa ah in marnaba afkoodu ka soo bixin dowlada waanu ka soo horjeednaa

Good call. Dont' ever say you are against the government. Or else you will face Yeey's wrath.

 

The President has refused to intervene and has distanced himself from all the calls from Kismayo but all you do is keep insisting he is part of this. Shame, shame!

 

If the President was interested in Kismayo's clan wars, he wouldn't bring back Gedo boys in dignity after the ICU humiliated Hiiraale and captured the highest reported technikal’s in the history of Somalia’s civil war. He gave your straving boys food in Baidoa, military uniforms, training and all the weapon you wanted. I don’t think he disserves this from your lot. Its a shame real shame..

 

The thousands of Puntland boys in Daynuunaay, Manaas and Balli-Doogle who are playing cards there are not interested in clan wars against Gedo people just like the President isn't. They see the pig picture of bring back a true government to this devastated nation, and Kismayo is left for the local Waamo boys to battle the few thugs there. If you ever say are against the TFG, Yeey's Dhafoorqiiq army will march in no time and that won't be a good news to the clan militias in Kismayo. For now, they must stay away from anything that can damage "good" relationship with Yeey.

 

As for this latest battle, I am actually surprised. If few un-armed teenagers can capture Kismayo for a full day from the 1500 well-armed goverment trained Gedo clan militia, it really says something about your perceived military strength.

 

Your group has been tested and the result is not promising. Expect big surprises in the future. The Waamo boys are still in the city and its surroundings. even in the airport today is in their hands They are emboldened more than ever my friend. Tonight they are not sad because Kismayo was never in their hands. They haven't faced heavy losses either. Tonight the worry is with the Gedo militias. They know they are using their full resources while the Waamo kinsmen are not.

 

In the meantime, keep bragging about your chasing of Afgaduud (who is married to Hiiraale's cousin by the way, and who has refused president’s orders to come to Baidoa).

 

Enjoy the celebration of killing 13 kids. Enjoy the moment.

[Gabbal]

The thousands of Puntland boys in Daynuunaay, Manaas and Balli-Doogle who are playing cards there are not interested in clan wars against Gedo people just like the President isn't.

Not even if a third of them are like you.

 

If the President was interested in Kismayo's clan wars, he wouldn't bring back Gedo boys in dignity after the ICU humiliated Hiiraale and captured the highest reported technikal’s in the history of Somalia’s civil war.

Duke, clearly you do not understand the difference between a mere pickup and a technical? Barre Hiiraale lost 13 vehicles to the rains adeer, not technikals. After his technicals got stuck in the mud during the worst time in the rainy season, he tore of his weaponry, and left mere pickups. As soon as he came back to Baardheere, the people there had readied three times as much pickups as he had lost. If they could have fought him under normal circumstances they would have went to Baardheere where Barre Hiiraale's militia had made a line instead of going west towards Diinsoor.

 

But what is telling is why you have Barre Hiiraale when neither him nor his militia have participated in this fight in Kismaayo?

[Castro]

^^^^ Just wondering Horn, do you have a poster of Hiiraale in your bedroom?

 

What will you do when the Ethiopians kill him or imprison him? I mean do you admire the man or his movement? What exemplary qualities does he exhibit and what movement does he represent? Is he resisting the occupation and the puppet regime? Or is he simply a spoiled brat whom Meles doesn't like very much?

 

I'm not putting you on the spot awoowe. This love affair you have with the dude seems a little too Freudian.

[Allamagan]

^^ dabka jooji adeer. All Horn wants is to educate Duke about the consequences of when playing with the fire.