ElPunto Posted May 30, 2006 AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals, sparking widespread outrage. The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to shake The Hague awake!" The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether. "A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper. "We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium. "We want to get into parliament so we have a voice. Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals," Van den Berg told Reuters. The Netherlands, which already has liberal policies on soft drugs, prostitution and gay marriage, was shocked by the plan. An opinion poll published Tuesday showed that 82 percent wanted the government to do something to stop the new party, while 67 percent said promoting pedophilia should be illegal. "They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen van Engelen told the AD daily. Right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders said he had asked the government to investigate whether a party with such "sick ideas" could really be established, ANP news agency reported. Kees van deer Staaij, a member of the Christian SGP party, also demanded action: "Pedophilia and child pornography should be taboo in every constitutional state. Breaking that will just create more victims and more serious ones." The party wants private possession of child pornography to be allowed although it supports the ban on the trade of such materials. It also supports allowing pornography to be broadcast on daytime television, with only violent pornography limited to the late evening. Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said. The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public and promotes legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted May 30, 2006 Too bad AHA left the country. She would have championed their cause. May be even switched parties. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pure blood Posted May 30, 2006 Acudubillah, look where "democracy" leads to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted May 30, 2006 Originally posted by Castro: Too bad AHA left the country. She would have championed their cause. May be even switched parties. She is an ultimate seizer of the main chance - not unless they gave her many, many, many guarantees. Main chance - a pirate phrase for a pirate kind of woman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FatB Posted May 31, 2006 er...does this make sence 82 percent wanted the government to do something to stop the new party, while 67 percent said promoting pedophilia should be illegal. ...... i like this party, better than free beer before 9pm party, were do i sign up???? everybody should be allowed to go naked in public dont they do that anyway!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Lily- Posted May 31, 2006 Acudibillah, I'm speechless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted May 31, 2006 Libralism people, libralism. Give it 15 years,,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScarFace Posted May 31, 2006 the cheese eatin dutch nearly make anything legal. Wudnt be surprised if pedophilia became legal there.....hahhaaa democracy rocks ehh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Animal Farm Posted May 31, 2006 They're pushing the envelope, this is an extreme suggestion, otherwise, democracy is the best form of government we have seen to date - a lie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashafa Posted May 31, 2006 ^ A man marrying another man was considered an 'extreme suggestion' 20 years ago. Today, you have the mayor of San Francisco, an elected official of the people, personally conducting the marriage ceremonies. Why couldn't pedophilia follow the same trajectory ? Anything is possible in this human experiment known as democracy. Nothing is sacred, including raping babies as long as the elected representatives say it's OK. Just give it enough time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Complex Posted May 31, 2006 Dayum...wtf is the world coming to? First being gay was legalized...then gay marriages were constitutionalized...and now pedophiles are asking for more leverage on how long they have to wait for children to grow before raping them? Nah this ain't right man. Everyone in that party should be arrested for 'intended' child sexual abuse...seriously If people only followed Islam right, then the world would see that it's the best form of democracy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamilah Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by ThePoint: Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said. Acudibillah, I am feeling physically ill right now... :eek: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Complex Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by ThePoint: Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said. Say whaa?! Don't these people have kids of their own?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by Kashafa: ^ A man marrying another man was considered an 'extreme suggestion' 20 years ago. Today, you have the mayor of San Francisco, an elected official of the people, personally conducting the marriage ceremonies. Why couldn't pedophilia follow the same trajectory ? Anything is possible in this human experiment known as democracy. Nothing is sacred, including raping babies as long as the elected representatives say it's OK. Just give it enough time. You definitely have a point - ultimately the standards of decency in democracies will depend on the prevailing values of the electorate - not some transcendtal moral and ethical code. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites