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Ethiopia blocks Kenya from accessing plane crash scene

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Ethiopian forces on Tuesday barred Kenya from accessing the crash site of a light aircraft that killed all six on board.

The cargo aircraft registered in Kenya as 5Y-AXO was reportedly shot down by a rocket missile. It was operating a domestic flight between Mogadishu and Baidoa, Somalia.

Somali Transport minister Hassan Hussein told media in Somalia that four Kenyans and two Somalis died in the crash.
 
“We have an Amison camp, which controls the airspace in that region, and we also have the Ethiopian army in the same area. I can’t go into details but the Kenyan military was stopped from accessing the accident scene,” a top state official told the Star.

“We also have al Shabaab in the same region and we can’t give a specific position unless investigations are done.”

The plane was chartered by an NGO to transport medical supplies and mosquito nets to Bardale, Somalia, when the crash occurred on Monday evening.

Sources within the aviation industry and media in Somalia reported that those on board were Captain Xasan Muuse, Mabrook Sherman (1st officer), Captain Cumar, a Kenyan engineer, Cali Madax (in charge of the cargo) and Saciid Cadbulaahi (the company representative).

The Kenyan government said on Tuesday it was working with other agencies “to keenly monitor the investigation of this tragic incident and will collaborate with all to bring closure and resolution to the incident.”

“Kenya Civil Aviation confirms that a Kenyan-registered aircraft 5Y-AXO, belonging to African Express crashed in Bardale, Somalia, as it approached the airport on Monday May 4, 2020, under circumstances we are yet to confirm,” the Kenya Civil Aviation Authority said in a statement on Tuesday.

The aircraft has been operating in Somalia since March 2, 2020. It departed Mogadishu with medical supplies headed for Baidoa where it landed at 1pm on Monday.
 
The aircraft then left Baidoa for Berdale landing at 4pm and later departed for Bardere.

“The firm’s operation officer confirms having lost contact with the aircraft at approximately 4.20pm,” KCAA director general Kibe Gilbert said in a statement.

The Somali government on Tuesday said they had launched investigations and would provide a concrete report.

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Oodweyne   

Suldaanka,

There was never any doubt as to who runs - and I mean in the sense of running it on a day to day basis - the political home's regions of the "Gudhuu-Eeelaay" of Somalia, which is what these two regions of Bay and Bakool are.

It was the case since 1997. And is still the case, as was proven openly by the fact that the likes of Mr. Lafta-Gareen was actually installed there, in Baydhabo, with the blood of his own kin and kith being shed copiously for him by these same occupying Ethiopians. Just so that he can be imposed there, like so much of a "cheap political puppet" that was sent there from Villa Somalia, which is what he is, at the end of the day.

However, the "bigger picture" here is that Somalia which is claiming to be a "sovereign nation" has this glaring "ugly sight" to contend with, which is the notion of being "dictated" to by her neighbor. And, in fact, this particular neighbor, namely, Ethiopia, can tell her as to who would have any "access" to some regions of its own country, in which she, as a neighbor, maybe loitering in it, brazenly, as she is in these two concerned regions.

It's almost like the sad picture of seeing a "retained woman" who keeps on putting on some bogus hot-airs about herself, in terms of how she is being "independent lady" and whatnot of her own right. But, at the end of the day her "patron" who keeps her keenly and treats her meanly, will always tell her as to who she can duly "invite" into her home or not.

That is the precise and the real "sordid definition" of this political reality in which Somalia is experiencing it. Particularly when you stripped it down and you bring it down her "current political reality" from the level of "high politics" it can take to the low "analogous sense" it has at the pedestrian level sort of definition. And that, as you know, "speaks volumes" in more ways than one.  

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4 hours ago, Oodweyne said:

However, the "bigger picture" here is that Somalia which is claiming to be a "sovereign nation" has this glaring "ugly sight" to contend with, which is the notion of being "dictated" to by her neighbor. And, in fact, this particular neighbor, namely, Ethiopia, can tell her as to who would have any "access" to some regions of its own country, in which she, as a neighbor, maybe loitering in it, brazenly, as she is in these two concerned regions.

Where is the so called Parliament that used to foam from the two sides of their mouth when it comes to Somaliland/Berbera. 

Apparently, they are no where to be seen when it comes to the Xabashida. No one talks about the Xabashida anymore. Because Xabashida not only do they exercise their military power there, but as the old saying goes 'sir iyo sawiro waa waayn' ayay ka hayaan Cheeseman :D

They say the Israeli Mozad have a lot of compromising photos of Arab leaders doing 'Qow-mu-luud' in foreign hotels. So they threaten them that they will publish those photos if so-and-so is not done for them. Sort of blackmailing. Cheeseman sawiro waawayn ayaa laga hayaa. 

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45 minutes ago, Suldaanka said:

Where is the so called Parliament that used to foam from the two sides of their mouth when it comes to Somaliland/Berbera

Suldaanka,

That actually reminded me of a larger point I had forgotten about it. You see Mr. Cheeseman had actually signed (or rumored to have signed off) for Ethiopia to have or operate four (4) as of yet unspecified ports in southern Somalia. And so far no one has asked the likes of Mr. Cheeseman and Villa Somalia to level up with this pseudo-parliament they have currently.

Not even one lowly Minister was called-in to explain this sort of under-hand understanding, or even to tell the names of these ports to these pseudo-parliamentarians, which allegedly, was given to Mr. Abiye Ahmed.

However, as you know, the moment Berbera's port issue came about they were screaming to high heaven, as if they could do anything about it. And the taste of the pudding is that, whilst they have passed all sorts of alleged "legal resolutions" against Berberra's port and its development by the likes of DP World, the port itself is getting developed, and nicely coming along to a fine and dandy conclusion in terms of its modern standard re-construction of it. Thank you very much for the likes of the DP World, one has to say it. 

And finally, when they know all of that which took place in relation to Berbera's port and in terms of how Somaliland had made a laughing stock out of them with their toothless legal resolution, they have yet to ask of themselves the question that will say: if we can't even get a straight answer from Villa Somalia in terms of how many ports, and which ones, they have given to Ethiopia, then, what hope do we have to be taken seriously by the likes of Somaliland? Particularly, considering the fact, that, the moment we even possibly get to Berbera's city, as alleged Pseudo-Parliamentarians from Somalia, we will all of us - every one of us - get arrested on sight in Berbera's port, as an "illegal trespassers".

It seems to me, that, these guys are as much into "Igu-Sawir-parliamentary-motions" as the guys in Villa Somalia are into "Igu-Sawir-World-Bank-donated-cash", which is what they have tried to do with that money from the World Bank in which they have tried to relabel it as "Baxnaano fund" that was allegedly coming from Villa Somalia. 

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Why did the Ethiopians shoot the plane?

Either a threat to them or asked for help by SFG should be the reasons for such action. Which one is it in this case?

Did Farmaajo government play a dirty game here of using an Ethiopian commander bypassing regular communications?

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Oodweyne   

Old_Observer,

It's Ethiopia sending a signal to Kenya, along with the very unsubtle lines. SFG is not even on the loop in terms of what Ethiopia may or may nor do in certain regions of southern Somalia. And I think Ethiopia and Kenya are having a "gloves-off" and a "staring contest" moment over the fate of Southern Somalia. Despite the fact they had seen eye-to-eye where Somalia was concerned and how to contain her ever since 1964. And, of course, that year, was when they have signed their "defense pact", that was intended to contain any regional troubles in which the then Somali Republic may get up to against them. 

Moreover, I think, both of them now know that Somalia will basically be a "dependent State", politically speaking, (at least Mogadishu's State will be). And therefore they don't see the need to be "aligned" with each other much longer. Since, both of them can see a way they can have a "puppet government" being installed in Mogadishu doing their bidding, if they play their respective political cards, accordingly and smartly.

What that means is that opposition folks in Mogadishu are with Kenya, and if they come back to power by next year (2021), they will most likely kick the likes of Mr. Abiye Ahmed out of favor, politically, from any Mogadishu's State they may rule.

If however, on the other hand, the current Villa Somalia's gang gets back into power, then, Mr. Abiye Ahmed will likely continue to keep on "owning" the Mogadishu's alleged government in Villa Somalia. Particularly if the current gang stays in place and in-situ. Assuming, of course, he sticks around himself, long enough, in Addis-Ababa, and the Tigray's inspired opposition in his country does not put him in a lot of trouble there, and therefore that, in turn, may not allow him to have much time to basically "puppeteer" Somalia and it's alleged government at he sees fit to do so.

More to the point, see to it to accept the fact that the old "defense pact" between Ethiopia and Kenya against Somalia to have been buried all of it, except officially. Consider also as a fact, that, from this point onward, both parties of Kenya and Ethiopia will be in a "serious political competition" in terms of who will "owned" it, politically, - behind the curtains - the alleged government in Mogadishu. Particularly, after the pseudo-election of next year (2021) take place.

And that will also be "akin" to what is taking place (and has been the case for some time now) between the likes Rwanda, Uganda, and Burundi, who are in turn forever "engaging" in some kind of a "Zero-Sum-Game" political competition against each other in terms of who will "own it" (or will most likely influence) the government of the DRC. Which is no government, but, in fact, it's a mere "geographical expression" with a UN's legal legitimacy being given to them. And, of course, this absurd legitimacy is alleging for them to be a "functioning government" over a defined and specific "territorial country" call DRC, which is also a member of the UN's States-System, even if DRC's government is no such thing, in the first place. 

This is what is going on. Essentially a question of who will "own it" (or will likely influence the most) the carcasses of the Mogadishu's State and its pseudo-government, from here on out. Hence, it's either going to be Abiye and Co. in Addis-Ababa, who will call the shot through the current SFG. Or it's going to be the Kenyan's State using, eventually, the "opposition umbrella group" in Mogadishu, given that these guys in Mogadishu will side with Kenya against Ethiopia if they ever get to power after next year. 

That is all there is to it. And what Kenya and Ethiopia are doing now over Somalia is essentially what the Yanks call "dick contesting", in terms of measuring who is (anatomically speaking) a "well-endowed" in some such competition in relation to the other one (as it were).

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On 5/6/2020 at 5:42 PM, Oodweyne said:

Old_Observer,

 

That is all there is to it. And what Kenya and Ethiopia are doing now over Somalia is essentially what the Yanks call "dick contesting", in terms of measuring who is (anatomically speaking) a "well-endowed" in some such competition in relation to the other one (as it were).

Just watched late Carlin the comedian of the "dick contesting" theory. Its so incredibly sureal.

Kenyans have always been able to avoid military activities. I think their short MauMau experience has thought them something. No matter how much you win militarily sometimes you come out the loser at the end of the day.

It seems the place of Economy in ones survival is well understood by the Kenyans. Ethiopia is the opposite. Will go to military talk in empty stomach.

 

 

 

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AMISom's letter regarding the shot down of Airplane by Ethiopia's regular armed forces inside Somalia's Baay region.

Apparently, the lame excuse is that they feared the Aircraft was on a suicide mission. Who will buy that? Cheeseman will take that to the bank of course. :D

AMISom says the shot down was non-AMISom Ethiopian forces.  

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An Airline that was cleared to land, known by all relevant controllers. But AMISom trying to escape goat and make excuses. 

So far neither Cheeseman nor Khaire have made any comments on this. :D 

 

 

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Sidaad horay noogu sheegteen dadka ku dhintay allaha u naxariistee iyo diyaaradaba waxaa iska lahaa dad asal ahaan kasoo jeeda snm

Maxay snm ethiopia u canbaarayn waayeen?

Miyaysan dhiig lahayn?

Maxaa keenay inaad tacsidiina ku qosashaan?

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2 hours ago, gooni said:

Sidaad horay noogu sheegteen dadka ku dhintay allaha u naxariistee iyo diyaaradaba waxaa iska lahaa dad asal ahaan kasoo jeeda snm

Maxay snm ethiopia u canbaarayn waayeen?

Miyaysan dhiig lahayn?

Maxaa keenay inaad tacsidiina ku qosashaan?

Waa Somali Sijuu. Of course asal ahaan  waxay ka tageen awoowyaashood Somaliland. Haatan se dalkoodu iyo dawladoodu waa Kenya. Kenya ayaa laga doonaya inay u doodo oo qarabadii iyo dadkay ka baxeen ku war celiso. 

Anagu morale support ayaan ku taageerayna. Maha arin Somaliland u yaala inay hormood ka noqoto.

 Waxa halkan la falanqaynaya waa Cheeseman oo dhul u sheegto inu ka taliyo diyaaraddan lagu soo riday oo waliba Ciidan Ethiopian ah aan wax sharci ah ku joogin ay soo rideen. 

Waxa kale oo la qaawinayaa waa kuwii Parlimaan ku sheega ee kolkay Somaliland noqoto labadda qawlal ka xunbayn jiray. 

Waxay ku tusaysaa daciifnimada kuwaa Mogadishu isku urursaday.   

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2 hours ago, Suldaanka said:

Waa Somali Sijuu. Of course asal ahaan  waxay ka tageen awoowyaashood Somaliland. Haatan se dalkoodu iyo dawladoodu waa Kenya. Kenya ayaa laga doonaya inay u doodo oo qarabadii iyo dadkay ka baxeen ku war celiso. 

Anagu morale support ayaan ku taageerayna. Maha arin Somaliland u yaala inay hormood ka noqoto.

 Waxa halkan la falanqaynaya waa Cheeseman oo dhul u sheegto inu ka taliyo diyaaraddan lagu soo riday oo waliba Ciidan Ethiopian ah aan wax sharci ah ku joogin ay soo rideen. 

Waxa kale oo la qaawinayaa waa kuwii Parlimaan ku sheega ee kolkay Somaliland noqoto labadda qawlal ka xunbayn jiray. 

Waxay ku tusaysaa daciifnimada kuwaa Mogadishu isku urursaday.   

Suldaan 
Ma jiri karto, sabab ay snm askari ethiopian ah oo gudaha soomaaliya jooga wax uga sheegto, ama ku mucaarado maamul ahaan, waa hadii aad ka cabir qaadanayso maamulka hargaysa oo lawada yaqaan.

Kilinka shanaad iyo snm waa isugu mid ethiopia ayagaaba sii daacadsan oo dhankii loo rogaba diidayn.

Hal eray oo aan amaan ahayn ma oran karaan, waligoodna lagama maqal,waa intay goonida noqdeen berigii hore way yara dhaameen sidan.

Jamhuuriyad aamusan oo aan cidina aqoonsanayn wax macnaa ma leh.

Arrinta magta waxaa ka wada xaalaya kenya iyo ethiopia oo aan kasoo kala jeedno sidaad sheegtay.

Muxuu yahay dhibka gaarka idiin haysta marka,hadaysan arrin soomaalida u taalaba ahayn?

Mise waa arrin mooshin ka abuuri karta koonfurta?

Usoo noqo mowduuca guntiiss

Kenya waxay xaq u leedahay inay soomaaliya waydiiso sababta keentay in diyaarad ogolaasha haysata loogusoo rido dalka soomaaliya.

Hadiise ay kenya ethiopia toos u aaday macno kale bay samaynaysaa aragtidayda

Kenya waxay ula jeedaa in labada dal ee ethiopia iyo kenya isku af gartaan arimaha soomaaliya, maadaama dadka dhintay ay soomaali yihiin mid walbaan cantuugadiisa rabo.
Fiiro gaar ah.

Sujuu, killinka, waqooyi galbeed, intaba soomaali la gumaysto baan u aqaan.

Koonfurta dhib haka jiro laakiin calankay ku hoos dhasheen wali ma tuurin.

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