Che -Guevara

Activist Jawar Mohammed takes a dig at Abiy Ahmed Ali

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for congratulating Ethiopians on the ‘77 battle of Karamarda b/w Russia/Cuba-backed Ethiopia & Somalia. WSLF fighters from the Somali region also fought Derg in the battle but PM Ahmed didn’t mention their sacrifice, some argue

 

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WSLF is the most "criminal" in the current Ethiopia or Somalia and even Somaliland or South.

1. WSLF told late Barre for the war to be conducted as liberation movement and not as invasion. He rejected, demoted some and alienated some. When the war fell apart the leadership in Somalia hated WSLF.

2. In 1984 WSLF did a conference where they declared the minimum arrangement for the Somali people to stay in Ethiopia is federal system. All anti-Federalists hate WSLF.

3. WSLF was the link to all Ethiopian resistance movements except Eritrea and to some Somali movements. Example SSDF and TPLF. WSLF had contacts with Sidama, some Oromo organizations, with the Afar and even with a small organization in Amhara region that later formed with EPRDF.

4. Somaliland of course cannot be openly friends with WSLF since the Mengistu regime would deal with them as he did with SSDF for contacting with WSLF and through them with the likes of TPLF.

When people come to their senses and when all those who support fake unitary system in Ethiopia and Somalia are soundly defeated..people will evaluate and history will be more kind to WSLF than everyone else including those who splintered from WSLF and formed ONLF.

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6 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

It is more clear every day this guy needs to stop or will plunge the region into chaos. 

We have to use Abiy Axmed. Soomaaliya is not currently that strong. We will use him as long as it benefits us. Remember, he could have continued the destructive Sanaawi policies of iskudirida Soomaalida and periodically humiliating Soomaalis by inviting them to that infamous yellow chair in Adisababa.

So far, Abiy Axmed has not openly interferred and intervened in siyaasadda Soomaaliya against dowladda dhexe. He had not invited madax ku sheeg maamul goboleed without dowladda dhexe permission.

Sanadkii 1991 ayaa fursad na dhaaftay markuu Sanaawi qabsaday; he too was initially openly supportive a unity government of Soomaaliya until 1996. We hope we do not repeat that lost opportunity again.

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Che,

You are aware that Abiy main and primary supporters are from Derg, Ginbot 7, Amxara unitarists..etc. Every single one of his closest advisors are Derg, Eritrea, Unitarists who are enemies to each other, but who feel threatened by the federalist axis of from Somali to Tigray all the east side.

It took years and years of work, to bring Kililka in one Front/Party. There could be factions, but at least they work from one party/Front and at very least they will respect autonomy.

What was the first thing Abiy and Co. did? Get rid of this minimum common program of the Somali.

They have now managed to return the situation to what it was in the 90s where you have 4-5 Somali organizations being used by this or that Ethiopian organizations.

A Somali should do all his competition, even fights at home in Kililka and never use Ethiopian government to settle scores. Unless this is achieved 100 years of fighting and sacrifice will not be able to maintain the limited autonomy that was achieved.

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galbeedi   

I seems the translation is from google. It is odd way.

I do believe that Abiy is a preacher compensating something to show how patriotic Ethiopian he is. 

Yet, the big difference between Abiy and the Evil TPLF is that the later always claimed to love Somalis. The TPLF welcomed us in Addis to cash in our  money  and business while stabbing us in Somalia and dividing our people. Actions speak louder than cheap talk.

So far, his actions toward Somalia has been less interference. At the moment he is cooperating with our government and distancing himself from regional governments who used to go the Hajj to Addis. 

On the so called monument in Kaaramardha, as some people mentioned, he should build the Mengistu and Menelik monuments first  in Ambo and Jima in Oromia country .

 

 

 

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Oodweyne   

Hello Folks

I was just merely passing through this thread and I have observed something that may have inadvertently slipped by through the gaze of both Old_Observer and Che. And that is this notion I will explain below, which is very revealing in sort of pitiful sense.

And what I mean is that, I do not know many of you, but I have just seen the precise definition "mentally conditioned and self-abnegating enslaved mentality". Now that may be putting too strong a way of it, but please bare with me as I explain away why I hold what I have just said it.

You see we have our infamous SOL's janitor, the usual "Gudhuu-boy", who most days acts as a cheap stooge of Villa Somalia in right here. And what I had observed is this idea of him talking about how Somalia (and I think he means Villa Somalia in this formulation of his) can "use" Mr Abby Ahmed, as if Somalia is any position to use the likes of Mr Abby Ahmed, as opposed to her being used and abused like a manner befitting that of a "retained woman" by him.

Hence, you can say in the case Somalia (or Villa Somalia is concern), what she is akin to a mere hired political retained woman putting airs about herself in-terms of how she is going to be using militarily and will make use of the "oily muscles" of those who retained her..

And this waffler in here, this "Gudhuu boy" in here, actually thinks that that Villa Somalia can call the shots in this "Lopsided" relationship between Villa Somalia and Mr Abby Ahmed, which is in favor of Mr Abby Ahmed's agenda. 

Moreover, even if you can go along with his sense of Villa Somalia "using" (allegedly) the power of Mr Abby Ahmed, then the question is what are results so far? And what prospect of it can be store for Somalia from this calculation?

And in here you can say the fact of the matter is that what we have is the same Ethiopians in which he in favor of being "used" that has been practically running and ruling his kin and kith in Bay region since 1997. And therefore, if there are any folks in here who are "predisposed" to be used, then they are most certainly not Ethiopia. But it's rather his kind of Somalis. Which means that should of taught him the kind of Ethiopia he is talking about. Which is not (and never was) the sort of State in which others can use it for their political benefit without it using them back ten times more so.

Pity is that he does not know enough about how Ethiopia's fleeting support of Mr Farmaajo had blind-sided him from more "durable reality" of that State's larger interests. 

Furthermore, if we also even assume that Villa Somalia's use of Ethiopia is good thing as of its own, then the question becomes what are the latest result we have from that score?

And in here the fact is that the Ethiopian's army had to mowed down his "hapless beggars" in broad daylight in Baydhabo on their way to install a "puppet" of Mr Farmaajo into power, should have told him the "immediate price" in which his kin and kith have had to "pay" for this idea in which is favor of and this notion of Villa Somalia "using" the Ethiopia's political muscle.

Consequently, he is such empty-headed creature to the extend that he doesn't even know how such this fanciful idea had cost him dearly, indeed.

However, at the beginning my comment I said what we have in here is a "mentally conditioned" creature who is self-abnegating as much as he is emotionally enslaved. And who had lost all "fellow-feeling" and "attachment" of his own people.

This is the reason he is happy to come across in here of SOL as cheap creature who would bury his own kith and kin murdered at the hand of Ethiopia in Baydhabo, so long as he could tell himself that it was all to do with a "noble cause" of "using" Ethiopia's muscle just to advance some alleged political interests of Somalia and that of Villa Somalia.

I am sure of it that if Gen. Morgan had told him that famine of 1992 which took place in his regions, did indeed "served" a larger interests of Somalia, he somehow strikes me as the sort of fellow who would be happy to pick up the shuffle and get busy to bury the dead people that are of his kin and his kith in their thousands without asking too many questions. Whilst at the same time whistling some form of "Somali nationalistic songs" to himself. And, indeed, whilst also wearing a "blue sweatshirt with a large white star" on it in the middle of it. 

Such is the mentally vacuous creature we have around here, I am afraid.   

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MMA,


Who is using who?

What is the price you pay to use Abiy and the Ethiopian stick?

What was the price Farmaajo paid for what Ethiopia did for him in SWS?

Why Farmaajo never speaks, mentions Turkey? Have you ever heard him brag about soldiers trained? Projects that succeeded and or failed? Never. Why?

Let me tell you one fact that many here do not realize.
Anything Ethiopia does in Somalia or any Somalis anywhere is either completely or mainly based on the Somali Kililka.

Every Somali president except Farmaajo has always had connection or contacts in Kililka.

Let alone SFG which is really in name only, even the great Ghelleh speaks with Somali elders before he does anything with Ethiopia or Somalia.

Abiy is trying either by deception, by pressure or coercion to kill Kililka. That is his promise to Amxara.

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Oodweyne   
9 hours ago, Old_Observer said:

Who is using who?

What is the price you pay to use Abiy and the Ethiopian stick?

Old_Observer,

He actually thinks that Mr Farmaajo is "using" Mr Abby Ahmed and his Ethiopian's muscle to "help" Somalia, which means that is the level of vacuous and seriously absurd argument in which we behold from some of the folks in this joint.

Moreover, his own regions of Bay and Bakool should be enough of an example of how it's unlikely that any Somali leader could ever "use" Ethiopia for the benefits of Somalia in the larger sense, as opposed to helping him (that particular leader) against the hapless citizens of that region.

Which is what took place when the Ethiopian's army "helped" Mr Farmaajo to "install" a puppet and stooge on top of those two regions against expressed wishes of the citizens of that particular South West State (SWS).

Thirdly, whilst he is at it in this jaw-dropping fantasy idea of actually believing that Somalia can "use" Mr Abby Ahmed and his government for her own benefit, at least internally, he is also minded to hold the view that says, that at the same time Mr Abby Ahmed and his government are in the business of "re-uniting" Somalia and Somaliland.

Now take back a step from all this, and just read that "litany of fantasies" and sheer absurdity in which some grown up men (a passably educated men) who are in here of SOL will tell you with straight face.

However, lamentably, be that as it may, and observing that sort of absurdity in which they are peddling in here, but still, they seems to want to detain you with a tall sort of debate about the affairs of the Horn-of-Africa (HoA) and that of the Somalis and their political future. Freaking unbelievable, I say.

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The thing that annoys me to no end is that people who prefess to unite all Somalis under one tent are first ones to make that tent smaller in Somalia itself, forget the other regions of Somalis.

If Abiy is killing Somalinimo in Kililka, he cannot be raising the Somali ambition in Somalia. You cannot put all Somalis in one tent if they have been broken as Somalis and made as different people.

Of all the regions Somalis inhabit, Kililka has the highest reflection of all Somalis on earth. Kililka shares people/clan/subclan with every region in the HoA. Now it includes European/American/Asian countries as well. There is a Kililka Somali, wherever there are a 100 or more Somalis.

If Ethiopia does anything in any of the regions where Somalis are majority or absolute, without any content or participation of Kililka, it should be cause for concern. Best example was SWS and Abiy had to hold few meetings and promise never to repeat again.

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