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I think we are stronger than abtigis and is clan. For  decades  we have  took their  camels and killed their elders and took their land to sandule. They tried  to become some one after the  1977 war.  When they were paramilitary milila of afweyne.. And wajaale is our land both sides of it  don't ever forget that.

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20 minutes ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

I think we are stronger than abtigis and is clan. For  decades  we have  took their  camels and killed their elders and took their land to sandule. They tried  to become some one after the  1977 war.  When they were paramilitary milila of afweyne.. And wajaale is our land both sides of it  don't ever forget that.

 

Who is we? most of those conflicts you are referring to were between the West Burco clan and the 0 community. When it comes to Gabiley community thought they loss their camels like no tomorrow aka Geelihi indhobadane.  :D

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Habarjones and habarlove and habarfirst and the royal sandwellers are all on the same side in Most of the conflicts  in the  19 century  xiliyadi geelkqaadki iyo duldurugsi and in the wars in the 1980s.  Geele indhabaden geeli dhalmabadane kahoreyey. from  aware to  gaashaamo to the jararvalley in hararghe to hawadey where  president muses sub clan hails  from. Durriyadu wa  dad dun xariraleh. Waligayo dad shiisheeye Naga maadkaaan kagaan  salax laso baxay. Who claims to be reer burco but actually  waxad tahay reer boosaaso.

 

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2 minutes ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

Habarjones and habarlove and habarfirst and the royal sandwellers are all on the same side in Most of the conflicts  in the  19 century  xiliyadi geelkqaadki iyo duldurugsi and in the wars in the 1980s.  Geele indhabaden geeli dhalmabadane kahoreyey. from  aware to  gaashaamo to the jararvalley in hararghe to hawadey where  president muses sub clan hails  from. Durriyadu wa  dad dun xariraleh. Waligayo dad shiisheeye Naga maadkaaan kagaan  salax laso baxay. Who claims to be reer burco but actually  waxad tahay reer boosaaso.

 

Daroor iyo Gashaamo rag ba leh (West Burco- South Hargeisa community)  ee meel ay degan  reer Gabiley sheego siida tuulada Xarshin iyo nus Wajaale. :D

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Wajaale and gaashaamo xarshin harta heikh aware are all part of the hawd and reserve area.land  given to xayle sellasie  it all my land  the same way gabiley arabsiyo hargeysa berbera burco ceerigaabo jidali  kalabaydh gowlale gar Adag Oodweyne  sheikh borama  zeila lughaye karin ceelafweyn is my land.

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Oodweyne   
16 hours ago, Dahireeto said:

@Abtigiisis sending strong "who is the boss" message to Oodweyne.

Dahireeto,

Actually, he is sending a "massage" to the likes of Mr Farmaajo, in the sense of saying to him, that, he may be "D-Block-politician", but his "economical agenda" is with Somaliland.

Hence, why Mr Dahabshiil and some other big-shot-businessmen from Somaliland were there in that meeting. He is also said that he wants "economical integration" of his region with Somaliland and said he is "inviting" some of the Somaliland's businessmen to open their operations in Jigiga not only in Somaliland's cities and towns.

And in passing, he mentioned his region has been "cut-off", economically, from the rest of the Somali peninsula (and from Somaliland in particularly) by the former regime of Ethiopia. And therefore he said he wants open and free market economy to happen in his region, which he said the "economical integration" of his region with Somaliland can facilitate that "economical-take-off" of his region he is having in mind. It's all there in the VOA's interview he did today.

But, still, having said that, I can gather what actually brought you out from your hiding place, my friend. After all, the thinking in your corner of the Somali peninsula known as that of Pirate-land was that, this Mr Cagjar fellow, was going to be involved in some kind of a fight to help you guys in Sool region.

Or at least, he will be sending some Liyuu police there, as something the local sub-clans of that southern's sool region could requested. Or suggest, rather absurdly, that, the reason his Liyuu Police are arriving in southern's Sool region (if ever they do) is that the local sub-clans there have asked for it.

Hence, the fact that Somaliland and this Somali region have discuss all "issues" on the table, including "security" actually tells me that the "mediation" his regional government have been involved in regards to the local sub-clans feuds in Southern's Sool region will be just that. Namely a "mediation" between the conflicting sub-clans of southern Sool region.

And he will not go beyond that in the sense of sending some kind of Liyuu police to guard the southern's Sool region, as that would create "conflict" with Somaliland, immediately, as some in the Pirate-land were deluding themselves into thinking of it. And that in turn, of course, could account as the reason or as to why you didn't like at all to see what took place there today in that town of Tog-wajaale

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Xaaji

Don't get baited by this wretched "troll" and Sheegato. His game is the simple idea of actually trying to pull endless "stunts" just in the hope of exasperating folks with that sort of a puerile acts (or assertions) that have no relevant reality to back it up.

He lives on the internet, trolling all day, cutting and editing and pasting You-Tube videos. Whilst, on the other hand, image-generating (through cheap Software Apps) all manner of fictitious pictures and whatnot.

For he is essentially and universally acknowledged as a "guttersnipe loser". So, don't fall for his "bait", especially that of discussing our history with the likes of him. For he doesn't know much of it, really.

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Oodweyne kilinka  governor in jigjiga need Somaliland because all the trade goes via Somaliland  and he is feeling the heat of the gallas in south east of jigjiga mainly  the jaarso. He knows abiye  and lemme megerse are taking him for a ride. And the ONLF halgan ended in a complete surrender to the Ethiopian govt. Because of afewerqi said go back to jigjiga.  As for  the little sheegato who claims to be Somalilander.  Trolling iyo tabloid news ha isku mashquuliyo  iyo  anti SL rhetoric.

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14 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

Oodweyne kilinka  governor in jigjiga need Somaliland because all the trade goes via Somaliland  and he is feeling the heat of the gallas in south east of jigjiga mainly  the jaarso. He knows abiye  and lemme megerse are taking him for a ride. And the ONLF halgan ended in a complete surrender to the Ethiopian govt. Because of afewerqi said go back to jigjiga

Xaaji,

This is really the bottom-line. No ifs and no buts. Moreover, speaking in-terms of economically and politically, Mr Cagjar fellow is between a rock and a had place. And he knows it. For the Oromos are not going to give him any room-to-maneuver at all, particularly when it comes to managing the politics and the economics of his region.

Hence, why he is ready to "throw" his economical lot with Somaliland. Or as the American says, follow the money, and all will be clear and you will arrive at your final destination.

Which means, all economical activities of his region are tied-at-the-hip with Somaliland. And in fact the "bulk of the trade" in which his region does it (by volume and by Dollar-basis) is not with Djibouti. It's not with southern's Somalia. It's not with Pirate-land. It's not with Kenya's NFD. But it's with Somaliland, indeed.

It's similar situation with Ireland and UK. Which means UK may be leaving the EU via Brexit, by March of next year. But Ireland will get the hardest hit from that decision of UK leaving the EU. And in particularly, if a good care doesn't get to be taken before hand just to minimize the economical damage that is likely to happen to Ireland as a result of the UK leaving the EU's single market (SM) and Custom Union (CU).

And why that is the case? Well, it just so happens, that, Ireland out of the rest of the 27 member-states of the EU does most of its trade (by volume and by Euro-basis) through UK's outbound ports and through UK-based companies.

So in that sense Ireland will need UK far more than UK will need Ireland, even if UK is outside of the EU, whilst Ireland will still be inside the EU's Single-Market (SM) and EU's Custom Union (CU). 

Which means, at least by "analogy" that our "Long-footed-cousins" in the Somali region of Ethiopia know that their "economical activities" are actually riding on the back of Somaliland. Just as the Irish knows that their "economical dependence" are on the back of the Brits.

Hence, the reason our "long-footed-cousins" in the Somali region of Ethiopia wants to have an "economical integration" with its "open borders" which in turn have its "friction-less custom's point-of-entry" for "goods", "services", and "capital" with us in Somaliland.

It has nothing to do with "clannish politics". But it's purely about an "economical self-interests" actually "dictating" the reality of what sort of "relationship" should the Somali region of Ethiopia must have with Somaliland, going forward.  

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Good call. We need to have a close relations with the new leadership of Somali State.  With Ina Ilay's wild dogs tamed and with ONLF taking the peaceful path and disarming its melitia, the region's has never had a better time to set things on the right path. 

Somaliland's businesses have been on overdrive since Ina Ilay's overthrow. The border crossing is now fully open, Somaliland plate vehicles are now able to reach every corner of the Somali State. This is only good thing for the commerce and people movements between the two sides. 

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This is almost completely economic and not much to do with politics. Somaliland businessmen are lobbying and pressuring the government to set for them legal agreements and basis for them to participate in the coming privatization and sale in Ethiopia of giant public corporations.

Telecommunication especially but airlines as well as electricity are fields Somaliland businessmen want to have some inside truck by setting up companies in Jigjiga to participate as local national companies in Ethiopia.

Kililka also is convinced and fact based that it benefits more from Berbera than from Djibouti as it is and next year onward will even be more real.

 

Illey had even Somali state corporations set up to participate in the construction of roads and facilities to Berbera and what he offered was that Somaliland businesses would be considered local in Kililka.

Not sure if Cagyar will be allowed to continue this road or even if he wants.

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Such a desperation. Cagjar jaraanjartii lagu arki lahaa Axmed mee u maleyaan. Endless marqaamid and all those months of doing nothing produces hopelessness and despairing like this, plus caruurtii la marin habaabin jiray, the restless youths who are awaking, ayaa filinkaan laga gado la rabaa. Markii Abiy Axmed diiday, Cagjar laga hunguri raadiyey. And Cagjar humiliated them, didn't even allow Muuse Muqayil to host the local dude in Jigjiga.

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Observer exactly  It's purely business  I remember during abdi ileey reign the region was chaotic and the late eprdf administration was preparing all of this but kilinka shanaad was messed up place with liyuu police on a  killing machine. There are allot of Somalilanders mostly from the big Companies telesom somcable dahabshiil. And also their smaller  companies. There are companies in Somaliland that have shares In the abay  dam. Observer its all about  licences back in the  2011 inaa aafdiinle one of the biggest qat  importers had zero assets or buildings constructed in jijiga. And  the local admin in jijiga said  what's  goin on why isn't he investing back in jijiga. The problem is there is allot of lack of trust. Between  Somaliland bussines  people  and the former ileey admin. Somaliland doesn't depend on Ethiopian protection .  Its not Somalia  where there are thousands of Ethiopian troops inside their sovereign territory and they can't move beyond a Ethiopian checkpoint and now their little cousin Eritrea tigreans will be joining.  The Amisom occupation.

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Oodweyne   

Hello Folks,

"......Tanac-Tanacle Tol-Waayey, Tukhaantukhsane Tunkana-looga-Joogo, Tawaawiicle Taahaaya oo Tabarna iska waayey, Waa Talo-seege Turxaan-xanaf leh Tirsingeedu Tayodiis Tahay....."

In other words, of all those Koonfurian's chaps who may have a beef or two with Somaliland, the one's that so singularly contemptible, or the ones who are seriously misguided, are ones from "colonized section" of the Somalia. Namely those who are from the "occupied regions" in which this "Gudhuu-boy-of-SOL" actually hails from.

And the reason I say that, is that he is actually not even in the business of managing his affairs, and as the same time the very Ethiopians in the form of Mr Abby Ahmed who he thinks have declined to meet President Biixi are the same government that is colonizing his people.

Hence, what we have in here is the "irony" of a man thinking that there is a great deal of delight to be had at the expense of others (like Somaliland) given that a "third party" refuses to meet them. When in fact on the other hand the same "third party" (in this case the Ethiopian's government) are really the ones who are "colonizing" him and his ilk.

It's like a man saying to you, that, "my colonizers" refuses to meet you and that is my "bragging right", even if my folks are his "field-niggers". Whilst at the same time, my "teeming-ladies-cousins" entertains him with the most captivating "belly-dancing-moves" imaginable in most nights.

This is actually the "essence of his argument" when you strip it to its minimum bare-bones of it. 

No that wont do, really. And it won't do, for firstly, the Ethiopian's have just recently appointed a seasoned diplomat into Hargeisa. And secondly, the issue in which Somaliland is discussing with the Somali region is essentially "cross-border-trade", given that in previous era such open trade was never in existence.

But I gather, that, man who is "beholden" to others is not in a position (in-terms of intellectually, morally, and politically) to worry his little head about all manner of trade, open borders, economical integration, friction-less custom-point-of-entry and the rest of whatnot of it.

Given that such a "lofty talks" are too "esoteric" for the lowly end of the human's existence (particularly of the political kind) in which he is sniffling from it. So I don't hold against him whatever silly stuff he is spouting in here, really.

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