MARC SMITH***The Trouble With Somaliland*** VIDEO EXLUSIVE

[Ismahaan]

what i think?? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[MAXIMUS POWERS]

SL is a beacon of hope in what is otherwise a place of despair!, lets celebrate success and give credit where its due! Viva Somaliland.

[-Serenity-]

Originally posted by Baashi:

Secessionist enclave

is

part of Somalia as I write. The hardcore separatists want to secede but can't -- as no state want to recognize a recovery zone situated in a volatile region that pins its legal, moral case on past colonial narrative and grievances against military junta that is no longer in power -- a grievances they share with their fellow brethren.

Awoowe, whatever perceived (and one-sided) view the separation is based on, at present SL has no reason whatsoever to be part of the Somali mess. And after 17yrs, I'm sure you realize the futility of waiting. Blv me, I'm not a hardcore separatist and neither do I buy into clan-mentality. However, I see a peaceful and progressive region of former Somalia that could benefit further from recognition and I see no reason not to support them! It is, after all, what the people in SL want and this is their cause and reality.

 

Xaasidnimo maahine reasons kale ma arko aad ku diidid the SL independence. Just like b4, when SL sees any benefit in union, they will happily go the round table!

 

 

As to Amxaaro thing remember Ethiopia is what made present SL possible in the first place. As of today Tigre junta is pretty much involved in the SL -- the Tigre just don't have opposing forces and hence the calm and absence of their tanks at the doorsteps of Berbera port (strategic in every sense of the word).

Whatever 'influence' Ethiopia has over SL's politics is insignificant, compared to what they are doing in the rest of Somalia.

[NGONGE]

^^ You are from Awdal and according to Duke and others, you people are only part of Somaliland because you're scared.

[MAXIMUS POWERS]

I was born in Djenne, Mali, raised in Saylac, Somaliland before coming to England. So I consider myself Malian first and foremost, then a Somali. Where you live shouldn’t affect your politics. What an amateurish mistake on your behalf NG.

 

MARC

[-Serenity-]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

^^ You are from Awdal and according to Duke and others,

you people

are only part of Somaliland because you're scared.

. Well, waxay Duke iyo co yidhaahdaan is hardly holy, ey?

[NGONGE]

Heh. Marc, see the two arrows pointing up in my last post? Take the shades off for a minute and try to guess why they're there.

 

ps (that's post script, just in case it confuses you again)

 

If you're from Mali why are you wasting your time on Somali affairs? Besides, all your vids give a strong impression of your pride in being a Brit (is that your THIRD nationality)?

[Emperor]

^Lol NG surely means to press nerves, Why is it a miss target

 

NG, what an allegation no one ever talked about any fear, SL is the concept of a few drug(currently smith is in droves to ban)addicts, not many of the residents of that Somali Lands, very Simple..

 

Smith clearly says he is from Zaylac, now part of SL and is agaisnt the secession.... my point, the number are huge and regions large...

[Laba-X]

Soomaalidu waa cajiib

Afrikada waa ka sooc

Sansaanka carbeedna ma leh

Gaalada siirkeeda ma leh

Sowsowgoodaa gurracan

Subaacyay wada noqdeen

Cid lagu suureeyo ma leh

Bal eega siday yihiin!?

 

Soomaali haddaan lahayn

Wanaagii laga salkacay

Sammaanta la diiddan yahay

Sokeeyuhu inuu tashado

Midnimo aan saxal lahayn

Calooshuna saafi tahay

Tolnimadu suubban tahay

Sinnaan iyo daacadnimo

Salkuna nabad buuxda yahay

Sidaasi miyay xun tahay?

[-Serenity-]

Originally posted by Emperor:

NG, what an allegation no one ever talked about any fear,

SL is the concept of a few drug(currently smith is in droves to ban)addicts

, not many of the residents of that Somali Lands, very Simple..

You deserve a slap on the wrist for that little faux pas Emperor.

[Laba-X]

Originally posted by -Serenity-:

 

 

SL has no reason whatsoever to be part of the Somali mess.

...Somali Mess! SL is part of the Somali mess, No, Yes??

 

Blv me, I'm not a hardcore separatist

 

...We do love!

[Caano Geel]

Originally posted by Laba_Xiniinyood:

Soomaalidu waa cajiib

Afrikada waa ka sooc

Sansaanka carbeedna ma leh

Gaalada siirkeeda ma leh

Sowsowgoodaa gurracan

Subaacyay wada noqdeen

Cid lagu suureeyo ma leh

Bal eega siday yihiin!?

 

Soomaali haddaan lahayn

Wanaagii laga salkacay

Sammaanta la diiddan yahay

Sokeeyuhu inuu tashado

Midnimo aan saxal lahayn

Calooshuna saafi tahay

Tolnimadu suubban tahay

Sinnaan iyo daacadnimo

Salkuna nabad buuxda yahay

Sidaasi miyay xun tahay?

war bax, maxaad ku hadleysaa

 

Soomaaliyeey toosoo

Toosoo isku tiirsada ee

Hadba kiina taag daranee

Taageera waligiinee.

 

Ummadyahay mar kale toosoo

Calankiina wada tiirshoo,

Danta guud ku taagsada oo

Isu wada tanaasula eey.

 

Somaliyaay toosoo

Toosoo isku tiirsada ee

Hadba kiina taag daranee

Taageera waligiinee.

 

Tawaabkoo qudhaa bixiyoo

Gobannimada taam ka dhigee,

Rabbi toobad weyddiistoo

Talo saarta Weynaha eey.

 

Somaliyaay toosoo

Toosoo isku tiirsada ee

Hadba kiina taag daranee

Taageera waligiinee.

 

Qabiilkaad ku tookhdaan baa

Qawmiyaddaada kaa tira oo,

Tayo li'ida qoys-qoyskaa

Idin bada tabaalaha eey.

 

Somaliyaay toosoo

Toosoo isku tiirsada ee

Hadba kiina taag daranee

Taageera waligiinee.

 

Inuu Naar ku taro mooyee

Dagaal ehel ma taabaggalee,

Shacabkaa in loo turo oo

La tabantaabsho kaa mudaneey!

 

Somaliyaay toosoo

Toosoo isku tiirsada ee

Hadba kiina taag daranee

Taageera waligiinee.

 

Curaddadaada taargo'ayaa

Tiiraanyo qaran weeyee,

Walaalkiis kan tooganayow

Adays jaray tagoogaha eey.

 

Somaliyaay toosoo

Toosoo isku tiirsada ee

Hadba kiina taag daranee

Taageera waligiinee.

 

Quruun teeda hanan weydaa

Tiqo kuma leh dunideenee,

Adduunyada ka tamin qaadtoo

Assaagiina tiigsada eey.

[Kool_Kat]

^Ok seriously now, afkaago Caano Geel iyo hilib ari lagu qabay...

[Laba-X]

CG, taa waa laga tegey ninyohow!

 

Dunidii sabaan baa ka dhacay, saxo kaliileede

Suluf iyo abaar, iyo colaad, soohan laga sheegye

Saxal baa ku dhacay, uumiyihii, sun iyo baaruude

 

Saymuhu halkey gali jireen, soofna laga waaye

Sareedada dadkii haysan jiray, saxal ku weynaaye

Saaciyo Mariiqii wacnaa, seege waayahane

 

Xidigii sarayn jiray, wakaa saaka foorara’e

Sanka duul ka xiran baan nahoo, seeto loo dhigaye

Sodan guura baa lagu, jiraa saamo gadataahe

Waa silic ku joog iyo, gunimo sabab la’aanede

 

Cirkuna waa sawaarayn jiree, sagalki loo diidye

Samartiino weeyaan hadaad, Guga sugaysaane

Sanadkii inuu baaqdey, baa sahan ku sheegeene

 

Oo saahiro banana baa cidii, saabka loo dhigaye

Geelu wuxuu ka soofaa caradii, soomanka ahayde

Sadna kuma hayoo, waa dhulkii saymo raagsadaye

[Baashi]

Serenity awoowe do not be so naive to equate opposing secessionism with xaasidnimo. This lame line speaks volume of the strength of your argument.

 

If stabilty and progress is the sole reason you support secessionist's agenda to dismember Somalia then what do you make of the mess that will follow the imposed recognition secessionists are seeking. As you may know there are parts of SL that oppose secession; places such as majority of Sool and the newly formed state of Maakhir -- both pro unionists provinces.

 

As we speak parts of Sool are contested. Not much of stability there. Reason? Well it has to do with nomad politicking but the issue of secession/unity looms over the pressing issue of how the admins are staffed and controlled.

 

Why support one the ones who want to secede and oppose the ones that want to stay with united Somalia. Your position on this issue is full of holes awoowe.

 

Stability and progress is not unique to one recovery zone Serenity. There are other widely acknowledged recovery zone -- Puntland.