^^^Indeed, Camir wise words. Horn adeer, you should not continue to embarrass yourself. Hiiraale went on a donkey, then you had the roadblock Dr Taano and he was captured. If this was Al Shabaab or Clan Court would he be in jail? No, the locals got their man. My own opinion, no need to cut his limbs let the fool go back to Holland.

lool. First of all let me address the topic issues. Ethiopia is leaving and will this bring back the looters led by inadaCADE back to their old power? No it wont, its time they move on, regardless of what issues. The bombs will continue and the crackdowns will get more intense and the clowns will say have a new group to blame. Che adeer I have noticed you are getting quite upset, why ? Maybe its Kismayu?

Yup, adeer not even close, you would say I was right correct? Mr Kimiko's kinsmen.

Its time for this chapter to end, the Ethiopians should move out as soon as possible.

Ethiopian PM signals shift over Somalia 27 Aug 27, 2008 - 2:18:41 PM Ethiopia would be prepared to withdraw its troops from Somalia even if the interim government they were sent in to install 20 months ago were still not stable or functioning, the country’s prime minister has said. Meles Zenawi told the Financial Times that Ethiopia was “not joined at the hip” with the Somali government as frustration in Addis Ababa grows over its perennial in-fighting and the financial cost of the occupation. His comments mark a policy shift because Ethiopia had previously indicated it would stay in Somalia until the transitional federal government (TFG) was firmly established and in control. If Ethiopia deserts it while Somalia remains lawless and violent, it could send the world’s most intractable failed state deeper into a crisis that aid agencies say has already left millions of people on the brink of a humanitarian disaster. But while analysts in Addis Ababa say Ethiopia is closer to pulling out now than ever before, Mr Meles remains caught in a dilemma between wanting Somali leaders to take responsibility for stabilising their country, and needing to guarantee Ethiopia’s own security if they fail to do so. Ethiopia invaded Somalia – which has not had a properly functioning central government since 1991 – with thousands of troops in the final week of 2006 to oust a group of Islamists that had taken control of the capital, Mogadishu, and which Addis Ababa believed represented a threat to its security. But after reinstalling the interim government of President Abdullahi Yusuf in a matter of weeks, Ethiopia’s troops got bogged down as the regime struggled to establish a firm grip on power, intra-government quarrels escalated, and an insurgency led by Islamists and rival clans took hold. Mr Meles said Ethiopia would do everything it could to help the interim government, whose power is limited to a few parts of Mogadishu, to become stronger and more effective. But he added “that is not necessarily a precondition for our withdrawal” and stressed that Ethiopia’s commitment was not open-ended. “Our obligation towards peace in Somalia is only one aspect. There are also requirements of our own, including financial requirements,” he said. “The operation has been extremely expensive so we will have to balance the domestic pressures on the one hand and pressures in Somalia on the other and try to come up with a balanced solution.” Ethiopia’s desire to curtail its military engagement in Somalia is driven to a large extent by its cost, which has been felt more acutely this year as the country is hit by a combination of soaring inflation and failed harvests caused by drought, which the United Nations says has left some 10m people in need of food aid. Addis Ababa refuses to say how many troops it has in Somalia, but independent analysts estimate there are 4,000-6,000, deployed mainly to protect senior Somali officials, government buildings and critical infrastructure. The Ethiopian government maintains that al-Shabaab, an Islamist insurgent group said by the US to be linked to al-Qaeda, has been critically weakened. But the pattern of violence suggests otherwise. Attacks on Ethiopian troops and the Somali security forces they are training have spiked in the past month and last Friday, in a striking show of force, Islamists took control of the southern port town of Kismayo. Civilians continue to be caught in the cross-fire: more than 50 died last week as a result of indiscriminate shelling” by Ethiopian and government troops after a roadside bomb attack on their convoy, according to a UN situation report. In total, 8,000 Somalis have been killed and 1m forced from their homes by fighting since the beginning of last year. Due to conflict, failed rains and inflation, the UN says that up to 3.5m Somalis – or nearly half the population – could need food aid later this year. Asked where Ethiopia’s original plan to stay in Somalia for a short time had gone wrong, Mr Meles pointed the finger at the west. It has offered lukewarm political and financial support for an African Union peacekeeping force in Somalia, which has mustered barely one quarter of its envisaged 8,000 troops. “We didn’t anticipate the international community would be happy riding the Ethiopian horse and flogging it at the same time for so long,” he said. “We had hoped and expected ... that the international community would recognise that this was a unique opportunity for the stabilisation of Somalia and capitalise on it.” One western diplomat in Addis Ababa said Ethiopia never expected to find itself in a guerrilla war and probably overestimated its ability to “work the clan dynamics”, the web of kin-based rivalries that divides Somali society even though its people share the same language, culture and Muslim religion. Last week Ethiopia sequestered the president and Nur Hassan Hussein, the prime minister, in Addis Ababa for talks to make them address their differences. On Tuesday the two men signed a pledge to work together anew. “Ethiopia remains apprehensive because the TFG is not viable, it’s not functional and it’s not helping them, and the insurgency is gaining a new edge,” said Medhane Tadesse of the Center for Policy Research and Dialogue, a think-tank in Addis Ababa. Source: The Financial

^^^lool. Adeer again you are getting yourself in knowts, yours is the same family as IndaCde and Xasan Dahir, but from a different sub group..

^^^Dont get your knickers in a twist adeer, one knows who ones is, though naming clans would break the SOL rules....

^^^Adeer again we know who you are as for being tribalist, saxib get the terminology correct we are talking about clans and not tribes...

^^^Adeer I support local issues when they matter, you are deluding yourself, the clan courts you supported was from a single clan yours and thus you prance around pretending to be hollier than thoug. Well you aint that important saxib, nor that clever.

^^^Adeer this group has done a great job, but resistance is local. Anyhow we are on the same boat here, lets not get carried away Kismayu's liberations by its locals call it what you want is welcomed by Gen Duke, we have been waiting for 9 years.

^^^Adeer the Yassir Arafat head scarfs and the Arab names are not just for one group, all can play that game. The clan courts was a clan movement that just wore Arab robes, now dont get upset if other groups use some sly ways to get what they want. Now we welcome Kismayu's liberation, it cost nothing to the national government. What you or other IndaCade supporters say is meaningless, he and his clowns are bared from the city.. Like Hiiraale his old friend.

^^^No saxib, they are not fighting anyhwere at all. their main aim was to liberate their homes, and so far they have achived it. Now they must defend it.

^^^Adeer who said about fighting in Barava? You seem illinfomred even about your late hero Cayrow.

^^^Why not adeer?

^^^Adeer here you coming rushing in with painted nails. Saxib this new movement of the locals has thrashed Mr Hiiraale and all those roadblock owners. We have been in touch with the locals for some time and Taano was a thug Was it not Taano who was boasting and making threats, now he ends up in prison. Should never have left holland.

^^^Adeer you need to stop living in cloud cucko land. The fighters are the local kids who were fed up with Hiiraale, all the Shiekhs are the locals. Yes Sharia law is needed and the Qad bans are a welcome. However this has nothing to do with the clowns fighting in mogadishu. All politics is local adeer. Also adeer we have been in touch with this groups since they went underground.. Thus all your secondary talk is nonsical. Even the UN rep satates this was largely an inter clan fued.

Axmedu Walde Cabdallah oo ka hadley sababaha keena dagaalada Kismaayo Wakiilka gaarka ah ee Qaramada Midoobay ee arimaha Soomaaliya Axmadu Walde Cabdalah ayaa wuxuu si buuxda uga hadley xaaladaha dagaal ee isdaba jooga ah ee ay caanka ku noqotey magaalada Kismaayo ee xarunta Gobolka Jubada Hoose. Axmedu Walde Cabadallah wuxuu sheegay in sababaha ugu waa weyn ee keenaya dagaalada ka socda magaalada Kismaayo ay yihin sababo dhanka dhaqaalaha oo ku aadan awooda iyo gacan ku haynta magaalada Kismaayo oo uu sheegay inay leedahay muhiimad dhaqaale oo aad u balaaran oo loogu jiro hanashadeeda. Mr.Cabdalaha wuxuu tilmaamay in magaalada Kismaayo ay leedahay istaraatijayad dhaqaale oo muhiim ah sida Garoonka diyaaradaha iyo dekada iyadoo qolo kastaa ay leedahay dano dhaqaale iyo awoodeed oo ku aadan gacan ku haynta magaalada Kismaayo. Wakiilka gaarka ah ee Qaramada Midoobay ee arimaha Soomaaliya Axmadu Walde Cabdalah wuxuu markii ugu horeydsay ka shanqariyey in dagaalada ka dhacay inta badan magaalada Kismaayo ay yihiin kuwa dhanka dhaqaalaha iyadoo buu yiri ay sida ay wax u jiraan ee ay wax ka qoraan saxaafada ama web site-yadu wuxuuna sheegay in sababaha dagaalka magaalada Kismaayo ay tahay dhibaato ama arimo dhaqaale iyo mid bulsho oo u dhaxaysa beel ka mid ah beelaha Soomaalida dhexdeeda sida hadalka uu u dhigay Axmadu Walde Cabdalla. “Dad badan ayaa soo hadal qaaday arinta dagaalka magaalada Kismaayo gaar ahaan kuwa inta badan aqrista sida ay web site-yadu, Kismaayo waa dagaal dhaqaale oo jiilal ah, dagaalka Kismaayo wuxuu ahaa mid ku aadan gacan ku haynta magaalada Kismaayo, qof kasta oo jooga Kenya ama Jabuuti wuu ogyahay in dagaalka Kismaayo uu yahay mid ku salaysan xaaladaha ku gacan ku haynta dekada, iyo garoonka, dhibaatada dagaal ee ka jirta magaalada Kismaayo waa mid dhaqaale iyo bulsho oo u dhaxaysa hal beel oo ah beesha..........taasi oo ku aadan maamulka iyo gacan ku haynta magaalada Kismaayo” ayuu ku yiri hadalkiisa sida hadalka uu u dhigay Wakiilka gaarka ah ee Qaramada Midoobay ee arimaha Soomaaliya Axmadu Walde Cabdallah. Najma C/casiis Cali SBC International News Desk

^^^No one here is against Shariah Law, and the project in Kismayu has nothing to do with the clowns led by inadaCADE and Xasan Dahir.

I dont know as of yet, I think they are looking at their options.

^^^Adeer we are the same clan, no need to get down. Hiiraale was an ***** who lost an opportunity. His militia have been defeated but his clan are like anyother and have a right to live in safety and dignity. However after 9 years of nonsnece we need to all work to make Kismayu a wonderfull city for all Somalis.

^^^Nice points adeer, this should be seen as a local agenda and not a threat to anyone.

Nice move, alos Taano is in priosn..

Horn saxib, no need for more Gas. Dhinaca kale Ciidamada oogu tirada badan ee magaalada Kismaayo qabsaday, tiradoodana lagu qiyaasay 850 ayaa ka yimid,Magaalooyinka Buulo-Xaaji,Kudhaa,Janaay-Cabdala iyo Caanoole,waxaana oogu cad-cadaa Saraakiishii dagaalkan hogaaminaysay: 1-Sheekh Mustafa Cali Mire 2-Sheekh Xasan Y. (Baaba-Saciir) 3-Sheekh Dhaga-Caleen Nuur Cali 4-Sheekh Xasan Turki 5-Sheekh Abuu Muslim 6-Macalin Bare.

Adeer why are you obsessed with Afgaduud? the man is in Puntland enjoying himself. As for the cowardly comments, you had no power in Kismayu other than that of your step father Abdiqasin and the Mogadishu groups. Aside from the suprise attack on Afgaduud, what has been proven this week is that your militia were as weak as the gas that you spoke about and Taano, and many others are in priosn awaiting sentencing. Did you capture any of our leaders? No, No. No Jabiso is the breakers of Hiiraales big falese ego.

^^^I belive so far the locals have decided to play it safe, they are consulting the local clans with a view to create a new unified admin, many big players, businessmen from Nairobi & other parts of East Africa are on route to help. The TFG has so far kept out of it, as it did before its a clan issue and this has nothing to do with Al Shabaab and other groups who are at "war" with the government. So far so good, but it depends on the new leaders and how much power they want.