Xiin, I don’t actually get mad at folks who are as confused as you seem to have been these two past days. You was once a heavy weight in the premier league now you find yourself languishing in the semis. Now no matter how many times you fume and you go mad and copy my words and use up energy crossing the lines after reading them religiously. I aint mad at ya. No matter how many poets you recite and I liked the Galkacyu touch, nice, any from the East End of London mate? Adeer the central argument here is not about you and I, its not personal and beyond our own individual selves, this is about missing youths and a network that took them from their parents. This is about upholding the law, giving evidence to help with solving crimes close to many of our communities members hearts. You are talking like a hoodlum rapper using nosical slogans like “dont snitch” how did you think this would face a grown man who knows right from wrong? Adeer I prefer Yes we can solve these crimes and stop them and clean home. Its laughable that your anger has not subsided even with all the hints given to you by so many people here, they tell you stop. Why because you are losing the plot, you are clinging on in defeat. Its Like a scene from Rocky 4, Appolo Creed is getting the daylights knocked out of him by Drago the big Russian and all he does is come forward. Brave indeed, noble maybe but he ended up dead. Old man you lost because you did not have the skills nor the temperament to go up against a seasoned soldier like the Duke. Rants don’t hold much water, I hope you was just paranoid for no reason and got confused with the Duke shuffle, and thought you could score a quick point or two. I hope and deep down I wish you have nothing to do with this. In no way think that roughing you up was against your real person from what I know you are a good man. I was just beating Xiin the crazy horse in SOL. And if you want we can continue, anyhow must dash. Duke, Xiin’s Kinsmen and no need to snitch on him, he knows nothing…

Taking into consideration the many comments from my fellow SOL members specially Mudane Emperor, Jale NGOONGE, Haji Che and ma473 I will be the bigger man and halt my assault. However the other party must also show restraint no need for a total defeat at the Generals hands.

When Gen ilkajiir ebcomes President even Erigavo will come without a fight. LA is no issue and we shall not make a front out of our people. With the change in Admin these regions will come to the union fold. Thus secessionist are again wasting their money and effort.

^^^Xiin are you still speaking adeer? Funny thing about the Somali civil war, you are defending people sending children to their deaths right now, I am trying to get them back home and stop such networks recruitment. Again lets revisit the topic Your silence and support for the criminals in this episode has been noted by everyone adeer. I have the power to determine right from wrong and as an adult I will exercise that. Now what have you done wrong in this case, so we can exercise that power Allah SWT, has given us. You keep pretending to be a big shot untouchable, yet you show constant anger and fear. As for refugee from the UK, that was a low blow pardon me adeer I did not know you was born and raised in St Cloud MN and your ancestors were from Finland. Sorry but all is equal in America jack we have a President who speaks Swahili. Funny how I have lived in the UK since before the war years and you want to continue what you learned in the refugee camps of Kenya. A case of the pot calling the kettle black ay my kinsmen Xiin.

Obama holds secret meeting with HRC By MIKE ALLEN & CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN | 11/14/08 10:31 AM EST Text Size: Could Hillary Clinton be talking to Barack Obama's people about becoming the next secretary of state? Photo: AP President-elect Barack Obama met Thursday with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) at his transition headquarters in Chicago as a growing chorus of advisers pushes her for secretary of state. This would give him a “Team of Rivals” Cabinet that would allow him to focus on the domestic economy while Clinton traveled the world to shore up America’s image with allies. A clue to the secret visit was contained in a note last night from the protective pool of journalists who follow Obama: “Several minutes before President-elect Obama's motorcade emerged from the basement garage beneath his transition headquarters, another unidentified motorcade of approximately three SUVs left the garage.” Several officials described the visit to Politico on Friday. Clinton said during her primary campaign against Obama that she was running, in part, to “restore America's standing in the world,” and she may get her chance to try. Several key Obama transition advisers argue that she would be “force multiplier” for the administration on the global stage. Among those who like the idea: Bill Daley, an Obama adviser who was commerce secretary under President Bill Clinton. With rumors swirling that she might join the Cabinet, Clinton said Monday night on the red carpet at Carnegie Hall in New York at the Glamour Women of the Year Awards: "I am happy being a senator from New York; I love this state and this city. I am looking at the long list of things I have to catch up on and do. But I want to be a good partner and I want to do everything I can to make sure his agenda is going to be successful." Clinton plans to remain coy. She had an event in Albany, N.Y., on Friday but did not plan to answer questions. The president-elect already has shown signs of valuing proven competence over longtime loyalty, diversity or interest-group wish lists. “If you want to avoid an early stumble — and he just can’t afford them, for a million reasons — he’s got to have people who know what they’re doing,” a well-plugged-in Democrat explained. One explanation for Obama’s willingness to consider Clinton for chief diplomat can be found in a January interview he gave to Katie Couric, anchor and managing editor of the “CBS Evening News.” As part of her “Primary Questions” series, Couric asked him what books besides the Bible he would consider essential if he were elected president. “Doris Kearns Goodwin's book ‘Team of Rivals,’” Obama replied. “It was a biography of Lincoln. And she talks about Lincoln's capacity to bring opponents of his and people who have run against him in his cabinet. And he was confident enough to be willing to have these dissenting voices and confident enough to listen to the American people and push them outside of their comfort zone. And I think that part of what I want to do as president is push Americans a little bit outside of their comfort zone. It's a remarkable study in leadership.”

Out of fear Xiin can not even take a break on Friday. Duke is not after you it’s the community as a whole that wants and deserves answers. As for the rambling and waffle of your last few squiggle what are you on old man? The fact that your groups latest activities of taking kids from their homes and using them as canon fodder is un-ilsmaic is not in doubt. Also note you do not have a monopoly on Islam and its not a brand that’s trademarked by the agency you represent. We are all Muslims and we don’t have an Ayatollah so again, did you provide the info to the family or are you still afraid of the handlers?

Xiin make sure you pretend to be part of the majority in the Masjid, wear anti spray to stop you from sweating with all that guilt a man needs all the help he can get. If any of the parents come try not to break down. Any info you can give to help these poor families will help you in this life and the hereafter. Its your Islamic duty saxib, growing a beard and wearing the Arafat scarf is not enough good deeds are required ya Xiin.. Its Jumma after all as you mentioned, so give us the good news when you come back that at least you helped the parents. Don’t worry about being called a snitch, getting good deeds is what we Muslim live for.

lool, good one..

Xiin your anger and insults highlights you have lost the argument, you are on the run and no crying will help saxib I am no bigot nor do I even chew qad, dont smoke (and kids stay away from drugs and dubious people who want to send you to their "Jihad" )let alone know a marfish in MPLS. Also let me remind you that the mothers of these missing kids were not bigoted nor do I doubt they ever frequent marfishes, thus you have to address them saxib, my kid is at home and thank god safe. You can not by attacking and insulting me, hide the crime committed by your ideological brethren. Thus keep swearing and running around in circles. A horrendous crime was done to these people and your insults do not a change a think. You are on the run so keep watching your back. Also fake Shiekh not all the community outside your reach, are infadels chewing and running around naked. How out of touch and desperate one sounds now

^^^Nephtthys, you seem to have load of info, go ahead do tell. Update us all. Layzie, Mon Amie, how have you been. This Al Shabaab and their agents actions will no doubt the community irrespective of clan in order to clean house. Our children should not be touched, as for the main culprit in SOL, he can bark all he likes we will not break the rules out of respect for the SOL members wished relaid since yesterday.

The agents of ignorance and intolerence are now hated amongst the community for targeting their children. The whole community is one big snitch The parents will have their justice and you and the vile agency will be out of business. Insha Allah

. My own Mother is from an opposite clan to mine. Thus because these ladies are my clan they deserve this? Again did you think of them when you was promoting the child smuggling ring? No,

Xiin adeer, just watch your back and note from now on your recruitment days are limited. consider now the Duke is least of your worries; the whole community is one big snitching outfit now. Every parent who has a child will snitch on you and your agency. You are truly the hated minority a member of the crazy lunatic party. Thus be careful how you move and how you speak and who you utter silly words to. As for respect, I have for life and for my people, you want naked power and a promise at the Al Kebaab alter. Again A Stark difference Mr Agent and again if you are so big and strong provide your name and details and you will be taken out and into a cell before noon.

My word? Adeer what would he say, my fighters killed each other. Obviously its an accident, is it not?

^^^And your point is? The Al Shabaab are the target now just like Sadam was then, do the math lads. Or claim this will have no effect because they will fight the US as well.

Farax brown, adeer thanks for the kind words, however helping people is my main objective in this case the parents and our communities youth. I neither want any reward nor acknowledgment for my work. The Duke is no fan of silent guilt as is the case for many here.

XIIN: Old man, shame on you , you want this post closed as well? Look I took all the pleading of the SOL members as a sane and civilised member of this forum and out of respect I will refrain from any direct confrontation. The Duke has laid out the agenda for you and for two days you have been foaming from the mouth. Encouraging criminal silence, disrespectful at the despair of the parents. Thus that’s the deference between us two, you are a ******* an agent with a ***** ***** hence your fear of being caught I on the other hand am a supporter of the victims the parents quest for justice. So go rabid and insult, “bad boy, bad boy what you gonna do, what you gonna do when they come for you” Xiin watch your back you never know which one of your friends might turn you in.. Forget the Duke everyone is a problem for you and your network. [ November 15, 2008, 01:49 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

^^^I thank you for making that clear.

NGOONGE: I don’t get your point, you support the article because you think the ill informed author will propagate the lie that Somaliland is an entity worthy of international recognition and this will help get actual recognition. I disagree and thing it’s a childish view to hold, for one the British government can not unilaterally recognize Somaliland, and also without irony we have been here before with other authors and even MP’s lobbying for the secessionist enclave and also we had Riyaales much vaunted but utter failure of a trip a few years ago to Westminster. Thus what makes you think that in today climate and with the recent bombings that have clearly shown that Somaliland suffers not only from corruption, mismanagement and clan rivalry but that also the leader of Al Shabaab is a native of Hargaysa and that it is a target like any other Somali city. How will this new development enhance the prospect for recognition when the long years of quite could not achieve it. AfricaOwn: All of the leaders of the secessionist enclave from Riyaale, Warrabe, Silanyo, Saleban Gaal and others were educated by the tax payers of the Somali people and by the republic. Thus they and their families benefited while many did not. Its simplistic to say that the NW did not develop under the republic but outside Mogadishu Hargaysa was the only real city the rest of the country was in shambles. We are all in the same boat lads any other issues?

^^^Better governing can be done as a unit within Somalia. Its not a reason to create a seperate nation. Again if Britian can have Scots, Irish, Welsh and the English together. The small clans of the North West with their other small clan brothers in the North east and south should stay together. If you have a gift for admin, well by all means take the lead and lead the whole nation, dont boast about it in your corner. Brothers are brothers old boy.

^^^Obviously you dont want to admit out of fear. But hey secessionist do talk big. You thought Al Shabaab was a southern problem huh?

Red Sea must be proud of the Al Shabaab strike at the heart of infidal in Hargaysa huh... Also others will also tell us these folks were just angry and they misplaced their anger they [Al Shabaab] should not be blamed it was so what if a civilaisn die in their clan "jihad" .

Will do saxib. Xiin is a good man, its just he is trying to be a hero to some groups here who have failed in putting their arguments acroos. A desperate group of confused western loving religious Mujahids, some secessionists and the plain mad. But hey I am here to help and Xiin is aq kinsmen after all.

^^^I agree with the nincompoop part, the rest was so confused. Come again.

What’s ironic is that Britain is made up of nations with their own different history and languages, you have Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland as well the English. Each has a different flag, a different football team. Yet to the ***** who wrote the article Somaliweyn is a crazy idea. While we are a single nation with a single language and a single religion. We dont even have anything comparable to the Protestant & Catholic denominations unlike Great Britian. But hey he is white and we are silly Africans they can lecture and hoodwink.