^^^Xaji, you did not add anything to the argument. Again if you can not convince the likes of Rageh Omaar, how can you convince any nation state?

With all the talk of “Pirates” and they hate Somali’s, and they hand over Somali’s, and they are “whore land”, and so on. The reality can not be further from the nonsense the political “enemies” of Puntland spew. Puntland is the hope, the inspiration and the place where many Somali’s from the south in their hundreds of thousands have found a haven, a home and a place to prosper. With its deep poverty, the people of Puntland have been generous, to their fellow Somali’s. To live in Puntland you need only be a Somali, nothing more or less.

SOMALIA: Abdullahi Aden Ali, “From IDP to city trader” March 10, 2010BOSASSO, 10 March 2010 (IRIN) – Abdullahi Aden Ali, 32, arrived in Bosasso, commercial capital of the autonomous region of Puntland, 10 years ago from southern Somalia. His aim, like that of thousands of young Somalis, was to go to Yemen and on to Saudi Arabia. He first fled his home town of Baidao for the capital, Mogadishu, but was again forced out when fighting between warlords intensified. Now Ali runs a wholesale clothing business in Bosasso. He spoke to IRIN on 28 February about his reversal of fortunes: “We left Baidao in 1992 because of the famine and the fighting between different factions. My father thought we would be better off in Mogadishu but this was not the case; the fighting there was between warlords and there were gangs of freelance militias killing and robbing people. “In 1998, highway robbers killed my father and I took over helping my mother. “I heard from a friend that a lot of young people were going to Bosasso, taking boats to Yemen and from there going on to Saudi Arabia where they found jobs. I decided to try my luck. “I reached Bosasso in August 1999 with 20,000 shillings [uS80 cents] and nothing else but the clothes on my back. I met some young men from the south who told me I would have to pay at least $50 to smugglers if I wanted to go to Yemen. I did not have the money so I had to work and save. “A friend suggested that I could sell clothes for a city trader and make some money; the trader would set his price and I would sell the items for any price I could fetch, anything above his reserved price was mine. I gladly opted to go into the business and we often carried the clothes on our shoulders as we hawked them across the town. I would make a small cut for every item I sold. “It was not easy at the beginning but I got used to it. I started hawking the clothes in nearby villages where I could charge higher prices and the competition was less. “I was making fairly good money and I had $50 for the boat but then I decided I could make a better living here. I made enough money to buy my own clothes to sell instead of relying on the initial trader. “By 2006, I made enough money to open a shop with some friends. I am now running this wholesale store. Six of us own it. We have one member in Dubai – we send him orders and he buys the goods and sends them to Bosasso. We are now supplying a number of retail businesses in Bosasso and other places. “I am married with four daughters. By the grace of God, I am now able to take care of them and provide a comfortable life. We don’t depend on anyone else. My first daughter is six years old and is about to start school. “I may eventually go back to Baidoa if the situation improves but I will never cut my ties to Bosasso. It is where I became a man. Bosasso is now home and I am happy to be here.” ah/mw IRIN

Garoowe: “ Puntland la’aanteed Faderaal waxba ma qaban karo” Afhayeenka Mudanayaasha baarlamaanka ee booqanaya deegaanada Puntland. 10. March 2010 APL Garowe(AllPuntland)- Xildhibaan Xareed Xasan Cali ayaa shaaca ka qaaday in ay hada meel wanaagsan umarayaan wada xaajoodyada ay la leeyihiin dawladda Puntland ee Soomaaliya, isagoo sheegay in ay kala hadlayaan wax ka qabashada xaaladaha dalka Soomaaliya, gaar ahaana arrimaha ku wajahan xaaladaha dalka, oo ay muhiimad weyn leedahay sidii layskugu afgaran lahaa qodobada qaarkood. Xildhibaankan ayaa sheegay in ay hada meel wanaagsan marayaan qodobadooda, wuxuuna sheegay in ay maalmaha nagu soo aadan waxbadan ka qaban doonaan howlahooda, oo ay dhameyn doonaan kuna dhawaaqi doonaan go’aamo ku saabsan xaaladaha dalka Soomaaliya. Afhayeenka Mudanayaashan jooga Garowe ayaa sheegay in aysan kala maarmin Puntland iyo dawladda KMG ah ee Soomaaliya, isagoo sheegay in hadii aysan labada dhinac heshiis aheyn in ay dhici karto dhibaato timaada in aan laga wada hadlin, isagoo sheegay in aysan labada dhinacna kala maarmi doonin, oo aysan midna midna ka maarmin, waa sida uu hadalka udhigaye. Xildhibaan Xareed Xasan Cali ayaa intaasi ku daray in ay go’aan wanaagsan ka qaadan doonaan khilaafka udhaxeeya Madaxweynaha dawladda Puntland iyo Madaxweynaha dawladda KMG ah ee Soomaaliya, iyadoo uu sheegay in ay Madaxda Puntland gacanta ugaliyaan qoraal ka socday dawladda KMG ah ee Soomaaliya Madaxdeeda ugu sareysa. Mudanayaasha jooga Garowe ayaa ka badan 6 Mudane, kuwaas oo ka tagay markii hore Puntland, isla markaasna uga mid noqday baarlamaanka KMG ah ee Soomaaliya, iyagoo ujeedada socdaalkooda la rumeysan yahay in ay wax ka og tahay dawladda Mareykanka oo faragalin ku leh arrimaha Soomaaliya. F. C. Maxamed AllPuntland

^^^Dont worry lad, you cant make jokes, its natural I guess. Unless like the rest of them you have found your faith now, and know certain things are not natural at all.

^^^lool, you cant wish it away JB, SOL & in the real world the secessionist agenda is led by a small group within a single clan. Not even the clan as highlighted by Buuba, Rageh & others support this nonsense. Castro, keep crying adeer, in the end you will runa way as usual.

^^^Xabsade, nor Farah Maalin belive that the SNM were Mujahids, nor do they belive the Queen is their mother. Concentrate now adeer, you are all over the place. Even in SOL, Ibti, JB, NGOONGE, NORF, OODWEYNE, XAJI XUNDUF, QUDAC, AYOUB, SULDANKA = one clan. You can not wish it away lad.

Duke: What about the life and dignity of the man who is going to be in prison Yes, what about him Ibti? Did I put him in jail? Kindly explain how calling the people of Puntland "Pirates" helps this man in any way?

^^^Castro, dont hide behind the sisters skirt lad, come out and be a man. No pun intended.

If there is war, Al Shabaab will be weakened a great deal, but not vanquished. Sharif Hotel is running out of time, one needs to look beyond the current chaos and what one sees is strange.

JB: As usual you provide no substance, the secessionist cause is based in Qabil, yet you can not convince Rageh, how will you convince the UN to recognise you. Now go think about it, I know this makes you mad, him being your kinsmen an all.

^^^Lets unite the Muslim Ummah, and divide Somalia. Also this topic was an attack on the people of Puntland, their dignity and the fact that so many people who do not " believe in Qabil" started to sing and dance in order to perpetuate the myth making of a few desperate folks, highlights the problem. Though I dont think the topic achieved the goal of the poster. It backfired big time.

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: Do you know Buubaa, Jaamac yare, Sifir Yup, the smart folks believe in Somalia, the dumb folks an their foot soldiers accept as true a fairy tale called "Somaliland" There you go JB, I knew you had potential.

^^^lool. When did the truth become insulting? Calling a whole population "pirates" is fine, but telling the truth about ones looks is bad and should stop? Yeah the logic of Ibti and her group, she wants to unite the Muslim Ummah, but at the same time longs to divide the Somali republic because of her clan angst? Nice one love.

Ibti: I dont know why you are getting angry adeer? Re read your last thread, you are embarrassing yourself. The subject of the thread is quite simple, if the secessionist, which you are a part of, are unable convince Rageh Omaar, a student of both history & politics and a man who has covered recent conflicts around the world. Then how can they convince anyone. Its ludicrous how you have nothing to offer, but personal attacks, and yes Grace Jones look a likes are not my cup of tea.

looool.A&T, you need to get out of the prison adeer, all this wailing and name calling will not help you in your quest for freedom. We don’t mind insults. Ibti is having a bad hair day I guess, adeer not all Somali men are like the folks you grew up with. There are some who will look beyond looks and give a sister a chance, you have a beautiful brain did you know that?

Originally posted by Mintid Farayar: Yey was exiled and Faroole will increasingly be isolated with the release of this report by the Security Council. So Duke, what's next? I gave you & Xiin free advice over a year ago when I told you no funds are forthcoming but you refused to listen. What now? Something to ponder..... Who is seeking funds? Adeer you seem to be confusing yourself, Yey, Faroole, ina Abdirashid, if they all go there will be new leaders as with any state. The problem for you here is simple, if you can not convince a famous Somali like Rageh, how will you convince nation states to recognise you? Even little Sharif Hotel, meets the British PM, where was Riyaale?

Originally posted by *Ibtisam: ^^Still not over you crush yaro, magac ha iga diilin. :cool: Why is this even news :confused: lool. I might as well have a crush on Grace Jones. [Remember her] So dont flatter yourself my dear.. Also this is politics & not news, sorry secessionist queen...

Originally posted by Mintid Farayar: ^^ No it's just Duke's attempt to divert from the Security Council's unmasking of Puntland as the official Vatican of Pirate activity in the Horn. Yeah, did the UN security council recognise Somaliland? Did they put sanctions on Puntland? Adeer if the secessionist could not convince Rageh Omaar, a man who's kin dominate Hargaysa, how can they convince anyone else?

^^^lool. Nice try adeer, but that wont wash, what makes Rageh any different from the countless members of your clan who grew up, educated in London and who profess to hate Somalia? Ah he is more intelligent I guess.. Where is JB, and North, and the secessionist queen who wants to unite the Ummah Ibti??

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Me and my career: Rageh Omar I first became interested in my teens. I'm originally from Somalia and lots of my family have travelled far and wide, throughout Africa, the middle east and Europe. I grew up sitting around a kitchen table with people talking about Africa and the wider world. I saw journalism as a really good way of getting out into the world and, as someone who was born in Somalia, educated in the west and is a Muslim, I feel at home in several different cultures.

Ibti, can not go a week without mentioning the Duke’s name, adeer if you want to help your fellow Somali’s and the Muslim Ummah, start with shedding this nonsense clan secessionist agenda. Learn to love Somalia, and then we shall discuss other issues. As for the topic, the whining gets worse and worse, we hope for our kinfolk to drop the nonsense and work to better the lives of their people.

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Even Band Aid is not above criticismBob Geldof is furious at the BBC story about NGO funds buying rebels' arms, but the politics of delivering aid are always complex But why the strong and blanket reaction without a hint of wanting to know more? Let's get some things straight: humanitarian operations in the midst of large-scale civil wars where territory is held by rival powers are almost always politicised and misused. The idea that this never happens and that NGOs are never put in situations where, in order to get the aid delivered, they have to work with and often through the powers that control the territory where the suffering is taking place is a ridiculous fantasy. It's happening now, in Congo; in my own country, Somalia, where al-Qaida-affiliated groups have dictated how the World Food Programme delivers emergency food; and also in Zimbabwe, where I have just spent two weeks talking to aid workers having to work through government bodies in delivering aid to prisoners of Mugabe. One aid worker told me: "There is a really bad outbreak of measles in townships with huge HIV infection rates, but we can't mention or talk about it if we want to remain here." Those are just three examples; there are many more. Plaut is a first-class journalist. He hasn't just come to this. He was actually there on the frontlines in Tigray, with his wife, a nurse, in 1984, as the famine was brewing. One of his main sources, ridiculously dismissed by Sir Bob Geldof on the Andrew Marr show on Sunday as an exiled malcontent and "not a credible voice whatsoever" on this story, was actually a founding member of the rebel group, the Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF), and one of the main military commanders in the Ethiopian civil war in 1985.