They look like two well dressed couples on a date[/i]..

Qudac: are you still around. Adeer the Somali men can tour any part of Somalia that they want. Gaboose the born born and raised in Galkacyu and the other closet Unionist are now showing their true colors. The ONLF have even showed that AWDAL is a bastion of not only Somalia or Unionist ideals but of the greater Somaliweyn belief in unity of the race as a whole. Its Somaliland that is rightly moving to the center, and the unionist position and not the other way round. Puntland does not covet any lands, it just wants to keep Somalia as a single state a position the United States holds and has articulated. Now go train the Nato Navies of the shore, you are as weak as the argument that the Queen of England is your mother…

^^^Thats the place full of light and hope. Things can only get better..

Somalia: United States to Strengthen Engagement With Puntland, Somaliland 27 Sep 27, 2010 - 10:58:39 AM by Merle David Kellerhals Jr. The United States will strengthen engagement with the governments of Puntland and Somaliland in Somalia as part of a two-track policy aimed at curbing the growth of terrorist extremism, but also to support the Transitional Federal Government, says Assistant Secretary of State Johnnie Carson. At a briefing September 24 in New York, Carson said the two-track policy supports the Djibouti peace process, the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) and the government of Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, president of Somalia. Carson, who is the assistant secretary for African affairs, told reporters at the special briefing that the first track is designed to help the TFG become more effective and more inclusive and to give it the ability to provide services to its people. In addition, the United States will continue to work to strengthen the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM). Engagement with Puntland and Somaliland is part of the second track, he added. "We hope to be able to have more American diplomats and aid workers going into those countries on an ad hoc basis to meet with government officials to see how we can help them improve their capacity to provide services to their people, seeing whether there are development assistance projects that we can work with them on," Carson said. "We think that both of these parts of Somalia have been zones of relative political and civil stability, and we think they will, in fact, be a bulwark against extremism and radicalism that might emerge from the South." The United States, as part of the second track, will reach out to groups in south-central Somalia, local governments, clans and subclans that are opposed to al-Shabaab, the radical extremist group in the South. These are groups, Carson said, that are not allied formally or directly with the TFG. "We will look for opportunities to work with these groups to see if we can identify them, find ways of supporting their development initiatives and activities," Carson added. But Carson said the United States will follow the African Union position and recognize only a single Somali state. A major meeting on Somalia was held by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on the sidelines of the opening of the U.N. General Assembly that brought together heads of state from five different African nations, several African foreign ministers and European foreign ministers, Carson said. Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg represented the United States as this meeting and set out the two-track policy, Carson said. The problems in Somalia, he added, are viewed as a national problem for the people of Somalia, a regional problem for Africa and a global problem. "It is a problem that has metastasized over the last two decades, which has led to a situation where we now have international piracy, foreign fighters going into Somalia, and some groups in Somalia supporting remnants of the al-Qaida East Africa cell," he said. The situation in Somalia poses a regional problem because of the large number of refugees flowing into neighboring Kenya, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Yemen and Djibouti, he said. In addition to a large flow of refugees, large amounts of illegal arms are flowing into Somalia and illegal commerce is going on, he added. "Somalia is a collapsed state with a weak government unable to project either power or stability or to provide services to its people," Carson said. Carson said that greater engagement means meeting periodically with government officials from Puntland and Somaliland, discussing a range of development issues that include health, education, agriculture and water projects. The aim is to strengthen their ability to govern and to deliver vital public services, he added. All U.S. operations for Somalia are run out of Nairobi, Kenya, he said. The Djibouti peace process is an African-led initiative that has the support of IGAD, the Intergovernmental Authority on Development, according to Carson in a March press briefing on the peace process. It has the support of the African Union and the key states in the region, and has also been supported by the United Nations, the European Community, the Arab League and the Organization of the Islamic Conference, he added. The Djibouti peace process recognizes the importance of trying to put together an inclusive Somali government and takes into account the importance of history, culture and clan and subclan relations.

More eye candy is on its way be patient, and that is an original pic of Bossaso, Masjid Ibrahim and the parts of the jetty are clearly Visable..

A couple of clear errors here. But this is a good investigation on these crazy men..

Che Bosaso is peaceful so are all the major cities in Puntland.

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: ^since 91' what have you accomplished? The question is what have we accomplished? As this thread highlights we are all in the same boat.

^^^He is a great poet..

^^^Leave the old poet alone you secessionist..

^^^Adeer I dont desire any innocent person regardless of race, creed or ethnicity to be snatched from anywhere. However one can not take your stories that seriously. If this is true it will settled by the locals..

^^^Ever heard the old saying, one man's Pirate is another man's Entrepreneur

^^^Its not a big deal and you are fishing for an angle. Somaliland soon will abide by the Fedral Law of the republic of Somalia which will help addresss problems that arise throughout Somalia..

Xaji, as usual you don’t get the point. This is not about regional states it’s a conflict between unity and secession. Puntland is a Somali state, and will continue to do so. The US position supports this and you have meekly accepted the reality. The question then is can Somaliland continue to be a secessionist enclave or will it adapt to the reality and join Puntland in rescuing the Somali people? I belive Hargaysa has no other choice.

^^^Stop trying to start trouble between people..

Xaji Xunjuf and Norf: Its not Puntland who is asking to work with the secessionists state. We have always held the position that NW Somalia or Somaliland is a region of the republic and as such part of our nation. It is the secessionists who never acknowledged the existence of Puntland who used clannish terminology earlier on and then pretended to be equal with Somalia. For them to acknowledge that they border with Puntland and thus as two stable and progressive regions need to work together is an important shift. Also lets not forget the new US policy of greater engagement is based on a single Somali state. Lets also not forget that both Hargaysa & Garowe welcomed it without any complaints. Thus agains what is SOOL or border dispute if we are inside the loving Somalia republic borders?

Cooperation between 2 somali regions is Good news, But Cooperation between Puntland and Somaliland when Laas Caanood is under the occupation of snm malitia is dangerous, and it will only make worse already deteriorating relationship between SSC people and Puntland. People of SSC don't want to be part of Puntland anymore, beceause they cannot trust Puntland Liiban: The Somali dilemma is a political problem, if the secessionist as is clear are moving away from this unnecessary ideology then everything will be solved. No need for occupation or violence and everyone will build their regions and villages. Puntland is not the one that has to move ideologically. The State is part of Somalia, and has maintained that position throughout. It’s our brothers in the NW that have to learn an uncomfortable new dance. SSC pressure can only help the unionists and show that only through a single Somali state can we all benefit.

Mamulka Somaliland Oo Wadashaqayn ka Dalbaday Dawlada Puntland. Posted by Ali on September 27th, 2010 Hargaysa(Puntlandi.com);- Mamulka Somaliland ayaa wada shaqayn ay ugu wayntahay dhinaca amniga ka dalbaday dawlada puntland. Wasiirka arimaha gudaha mamulka Somaliland Dr Maxamed Cabdi Gaboose oo warfidiyeenada kula hadlay magaalada Hargaysa ayaa sheegay in mamuka somaliland wada shaqayn kadalbanayo dawlada puntland. Wasiirka ayaa sheegay in ay jiraan wadashaqayn haatan leeyihiin mamulka somaliland iyo dawlada puntland waxaana uu intaa ku daray in haatan ay doonayaan in dhinaca amaanka aad isaga kaa shadaan. “Dawlada Puntland iyo Mamulka Somaliland waxaa haatan ka dhaxeeya wadashaqayn aan qarsoonayn waa walaalaheen mana muuqdaan wax nakala kaxaynkara”ayuu yiri Gaboose. Wasiirka ayaa tilmamaay in ay jiraan dad doonaya in ay carqaladeeyaan amaanka Puntland iyo Somaliland waxaana uu sheegay in lagu dadaalo sidii looga hortagi lahaa. Hadalkan ku aadan in mamulka somaliland uu wadashaqayn ka dalbado dawlada Puntland ayaa ah markii labaad waxaa mamulka siilayo siyaasadiisa umuuqataa mid kabadan mamulkii hore. Ali Ahmed Abdi

^^^The better question is can the secessionist take the heart ache?

Dear Friends, Our successful efforts in rebuilding Somalia would allow preventing a further deterioration of the humanitarian situation. The extended political space and a more secure environment will facilitate the humanitarian access throughout Somalia, especially in areas where they suffer deprivation from basic necessities and widespread violation of human rights. Follow-up arrangements have been made for the Istanbul Conference on Somalia, held in May 2010, at which the international community and the TFG reiterated the commitment to improve the lives and security of the Somali people, foster reconciliation, increase access to basic services, initiate reconstruction activities and set Somalia on the path of sustainable peace and development. This initiative will also permit tapping the resources and creativity of the vibrant Somali private sector. I welcome the recent elections in Somaliland, which were very encouraging. I look forward to working with the Somaliland authorities to help them in their efforts to consolidate stability. The instability in the disputed region of Sool and Sanaag continues to be an issue of concern and I look forward to engaging all sides with a view to finding a political solution. While Puntland continues to face security and economic challenges, I look forward to engaging them on a variety of issues with a view to helping improve the situation on the ground. The TFG remains the main partner with which the international community can work with to advance national reconciliation, peace and stability in Somalia. We have all seen how the international community has rallied behind the governments in Iraq and Afghanistan. Somalia is no exception; it requires similar massive interventions. The TFG and the international community must work closely together if Somalia is to emerge from the present crisis. Thank you.

2 Structuring and sustaining the Security Sector While the political process should map out the way, security remains the key issue. The foreign-backed insurgents are determined to destabilize all efforts by the Somalis and the international community to ensure peace and security in Somalia and the region. The suicide bombings in Kampala on 11 July demonstrated their ability to carry out violent acts outside Somalia's borders. The African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) continues to play a crucial role in Mogadishu, where it safeguards the Transitional Institutions and vital installations. AMISOM is discharging its responsibilities under very difficult conditions, often with limited resources. We support the decision taken by the AU Summit to increase the strength of AMISOM to its mandated capacity of 8,000 troops as soon as possible. We also support the decision by the IGAD Heads of State authorizing 20,000 troops to meet the growing threat of the insurgents and to stabilize the country as a whole. We now need to ensure that both military planning and political strategy are matched and support the plans and requirements for the remainder of the transitional process. The envisaged political outreach beyond Mogadishu will require a secure territorial environment which the TFG forces and AMISOM need to provide. We look forward to proposals by the AU Peace and Security Council being brought forward to the UN Security Council next month. We hope the Council will also consider enhancing AMISOM's capability to protect civilians. As you may be aware, AMISOM alone would not provide the needed stability. We need the involvement of the Somali Security Forces. The latter, needs to be structured and sustained. I commend partners who have helped to train and equip the Somali security forces. However, the Somali security forces need additional support, in terms of command and control, medical and structural support as well as regular payments of stipends. I encourage the TFG to consider and adopt at the earliest opportunity, the National Security Strategy, the National Security and Stabilization Plan and to approve the Security Sector Assessment which our partners need in order to begin the work set out by the Joint Security Committee in August. All these efforts require our political and financial support. One way of doing this is through ongoing programme and projects. But lessons learned in the past suggest that our processes could unnecessary delay a process that is running out of time. We must then explore the best way to provide this assistance to the TFG. I also call upon those partners with the necessary capabilities to increase their support to AMISOM. I met with President Yoweri Kaguta Museveni of Uganda, President Jakaya Kikwete of Tanzania, President Isaias Afwerky of Eritrea, and Prime Minister Meles Zenawi of Ethiopia. All emphasize the need to strengthen political dialogue as well as to provide adequate support to the Somali Security Forces. I have been instructed by the SG to work closely and to strengthen the partnership with the AU and IGAD. The Secretary General also underscored three points including: (i) support to the Somalia Government and the African Union Mission in Somalia, AMISOM; (ii) the implementation of humanitarian and recovery activities followed by the establishment of the light UN footprint; (iii) and finally the deployment of the UN peacekeeping operation at the appropriate time, subject to a decision by the UN Security Council.

Dear Friends, The Transitional Federal Government is facing two pressing challenges: Political and Security. Both are interlinked. Tasks leading to the completion of the Transitional period can only be achieved if a secured and stable environment is established. Likewise, we will not achieve minimum stability in the country unless we make substantive progress on the political front. We must therefore focus our discussions on the following issues: Allowing a broad based and more representative Institutions: To achieve this, we need to assist the TFG to move the Constitution making process forward. The Consultation on the Draft Constitution is the opportunity for us to engage in a meaningful way. It is also the framework within which the TFG could involve groups that remain outside the peace process. I am comforted by all ongoing initiatives aimed at engaging groups opposed to the TFG and willing to pursue the path of peaceful reconciliation. I look forward to working with the Transitional Federal Institutions and the members of the International Contact Group to strengthen these initiatives. The March 2010 agreement with Ahlu Sunna wal Jama'a was a good start and the inclusion of five ministers in the cabinet is an important gesture. I consulted with the President this morning as I had heard that ASWJ is reneging on the agreement reached with the TFG. The President assured me that the issue will be resolved quickly. However, more needs to be done to consolidate this agreement and the international community must provide the necessary support. The Galckayo Agreement with Puntland on political and security cooperation and the Kampala Framework on piracy that include authorities of Puntland, Somaliland and the TFG also need to be implemented. In the meantime, the TFG must continue efforts to enlarge its legitimacy by reaching out to community leaders and elders beyond Mogadishu, populations in the south central such as Galmuduug, the business community and the Diaspora. The TFG must also be assisted to build civilian institutions for good governance including the provision of basic services to the Somali people.

Somalia: SRSG's Statement to the International Contact Group Source: United Nations Political Office for Somalia Madrid, 27 September 2010 Mr. President, Secretary of State de La-ig-lesia Your Excellencies, Ladies and Gentlemen, I would like to welcome all of you to this, the 18th Meeting of the International Contact Group for Somalia. I warmly thank the Government of Spain for hosting this very timely meeting in their lovely capital city. As many of you know, this is not my first participation in a meeting of the International Contact Group. I had, in fact, the privilege of attending several previous meetings in my former capacity as the representative of Tanzania. But this, of course, is the first time I have the honour of chairing this meeting as the Special Representative of the United Nations Secretary-General on Somalia. It is nice to see many friends gathered here again and I look forward to your cooperation and support to sustain the Somali peace process. I wish to make tribute to my predecessor Mr. Ould-Abdallah for his dedicated efforts and lend his service to this group. This meeting comes at a critical time as we have to make crucial decisions less than a year until the end of the transition in August next year. As we reaffirm our support to the Transitional Federal Government amidst political and security problems which the TFG is currently grappling with; we must also find during this meeting concrete and focused responses to the challenges ahead of the Transitional Federal Government. At the same time, we must convey to the Somali leaders our concerns, but also recommendations for the effective and efficient implementation of the transitional tasks leading to a new representative political dispensation in Somalia, after August 2011. I believe these should be the main thrust of this session of the ICG. Reaching such common ground would help facilitate our engagement and practical support to the Somali peace process. In this respect, it is a privilege for us to have here President Sheikh Sharif. I believe this is the first meeting of the International Contact Group that he is attending. I would like once more to congratulate him and his Government to have peacefully and friendly addressed the crisis within the TFIs. I commend Prime Minister Shermarke for stepping down for the sake of peace and in the interest of unity within the Transitional Federal Institutions. We look forward to a speedy appointment of a new Prime Minister and his Cabinet and hope that we will see a more united and cohesive Transitional Federal Government. We trust this will enable the TFIs to focus on work that needs to be done by the end of the Transition in August 2011. This is also the sentiment which was echoed at the Mini Summit in New York last week by the UN Secretary-General and representatives of the International Community. We wish President Sharif and his Government good luck and success in undertaking this obligation.

^^^Kulmiye is doing what Uudub was doing, waiting for Somalia. Its just the average layman belived in all the "Republic of Somaliland" crap. Now wake up lad.