Funny the founder of Somaliland, Tuur. Ended being a lackey of Aydeed. Secessionist used to sing for Siyad Barre, their longest serving leader Riyaale worked as an NSS spy, and their founding father was a stooge of Aydeed. They are soft arent they. Look at Siilanyo, he needs 50 armed militiamen to visit parts of Hargaysa..lol

Abokor Omar;707776 wrote: now your being straight g.ay. Stop checking mans swagg. Alas poor Abokor Omar, a novice secessionist goes for the attack.. However he forgets the greatest secessionist supporter of all time. He is a man much loved by the secessionist.. In Praise of Somaliland. A Beacon of Hope in the Thorn of Africa. by Peter Tatchell. THIS year's civil war in Somalia has killed thousands of people and ... and the reference are from, you guessed it.. somalilandtimes

^^^lol@ Secessionist, the truth hurts in Somalia you will only be mud fish in the traingle you mistake yourselves for Sharks.. Siilanyo, Faisal Warrabe, Egaal, Tuur were all cowards under the Somali state. We also know how Aydeed used to order Omar Arte around all the time..

Abokor Omar;707763 wrote:

The secessionists have no backbone, look at their most powerful man, he is unsable to mingle with the people and needs 50 militiamen to go to the local. Its shame really. Anyhow there is no beef with my SSC kinsmen, just some backbone is needed, look at Ilka-jiir and the admin he created in Sanaag, and compared that to the missing in action folks who promised a great deal...

^^^XX, I have no doubt of your clanish support. After all in Somalia proper the whole NW would get around 20% of the posts and power of the country. You want to be a big fish in a small pond, than a normal fish in a big pond full of other big fishes. :D

Secessionists, it takes 50 heavily armed SNM militiamen for Siilanyo to walk around Hargaysa [the coward], what will it take a Nato Task force for him to visit Buhudle?looooooool Look at the militimen how they are staring at the poor civilians.

Liiskii Golaha Wasiirada Ee beesha ***** oo kaliya ay heshay iyada oo tirada guud ee wasiirada Somaliland n dhan yihiin 20 wasiir. 1. Dr. Maxamed Cabdilaahi Cumar - Wasiirka Arimaha Dibedda & Xidhiidhka Caalamiga Ah 2. Dr. Maxamed Cabdi Gaboose • Waiirka Arimaha Gudaha. 3. Eng. Maxamed Xaashi Cilmi • Wasiirka Maaliyadda. 4. Dr. Sacad Cali Shire - Wasiirka Qorshaynta & Horumarinta. 5. Xusseen Axmed Caydiid • Wasiirka Hawlaha Guud & Gaadiidka. 6. Samsam Cabdi Aadan • Wasiirka Waxbarashada &. Tacliinta Sare. Habar awal 7. Dr. Xuseen Axmed Maxamed • Wasiirka Caafimaadka. 8.Dr. Axmed Xaaji Oday • Wasiirka Xanaanada Xoolaha, Deegaanka & Horumarinta Reer Miyiga. 9..Khaliil C/Laahi Axmed • Wasiirka Diinta & Awqaafta. 10. Ilhaan Maxamed Jaamac • Wasiirka Shaqada & Arimaha Bulshada. 11. Dr. Maxamed Yaasiin Xasan • Wasiirka Kaluumaysiga, Khayraadka Badda & Maamulka Dekedaha. 12.Dr. Xusseen Cabdi Ducaale • Wasiirka Macdanta, Biyaha & Tamarta. 13.Maxamuud Xaashi Cabdi • Wasiirka Duulista & Hawada. 14.Cabdilaahi Jaamac Cismaan Geeljire • Wasiirka Warfaafinta. sidoo kale waxa jira wasiiro ku xgeenada Somaliland oo dhan lix ayaa waxa ay ka heleen sadex waana kuwan/ 14 out of the 20 ministers of Warlord Siilanyo's cabinet are from his clan, what the rest are less than 30% of the population. The people of AWDAL, SOOL, SANAAG, the minority clans of the regions = 30% and Siilanyo's clan equals 70%?

Saalax;707732 wrote: Abokor Omar do not disrespect our President. Why would we go to that village. Yeah, why would he go to that Village, when 75 of his militias died trying to go there...lol

20% of all the posts in this Somalia [TFG] thread came from secessionists. It’s remarkable uncanny because the secessionist held areas and population are roughly 20% of Somalia.

Abokor-Omar, trust me I would angry if I had a beef with my brothers, however you on the other hand amuse me a great deal. Now you have my full attention. Did you say that Siilanyo the old man is coming Buhudle? When my dear boy?

Gandi is a real joker; he is easily the funniest person ever. He not only brought a clan together in a hotel room in Kenya. Then he convinced them to make him President of Gedo and the two Juba’s. Then he out did everyone and came up with a brand new name, Mzania, was that not he name of a Nomad in SOL? Anywho, good luck to the man who went from a well respected Professor to a Barre Hiiraale wannabe.

Taleexi adeer, like I said, one would have taken you seriously if you stood your ground when the secessionists were making jokes at your expense. Instead you rush in to attack anything and everything Puntland. Anyhow, we are all wide awake now. So again let’s continue. Also, I doubt if all of the SSC individuals contributions combined have ever addressed the secessionist as Duke has in this forum. One does not want acknowledgement but I am tired of all these young Xabsade’s trying to stab a brother in the back. Again just telling it as it is.

Not sure what the secessionist are here crying about>? Its clear that they follow and are afraid of the change thats coming, and there is change coming. Any end to the transition must take place inside Somalia. I agree with the TFG cabinets stance today.

Talexi adeer, I have no respect for those who cower at secessionists and find their strength when they face their kinsmen. At every turn you not only belittle Puntland but point a finger at a specific sub-sub clan trying to win favors with your secessionist overlords no doubt. Your inferiority complex knows no bounds, again when I see you talking upright to the secessionist I will take you seriously. Untill then, keep quite and hide like XaglaTosiye

My response to Talexi will be simple, adeer grow some balls for the secessionist, who occupy your villages and humiliate your leadership there is nothing you can do to me or the sub clan you keep mentioning. Also don’t mistake the respect and deference I have shown the SSC sub clan as a weakness, for your pathetic clownishness is now coming to fore. Adeer as I have made it clear if you don’t want to be part of Puntland and have an admin called SSC and a Preisdent called Xaglatosiye, then why are you crying and scrounging in Garowe? Also don’t claim the Nugaal, that wont save you no face nor give you credit, Mr Secessionist kiss ***. Again grow some balls adeer, Puntland and the NE clans want nothing from these lands, and were defending it out of respect for kinship. However if those being defended are now spitting as you are, then what’s the point? None

Val. I appreciate your comments sis. Nothing personal in this nor am I a die hard supporter of Faroole or Suldan Garrase. However what makes me annoyed is the complete utter disrespect by segments of the SSC community and the constant blame game they employ with regards to specific clans and personalities within Puntland. The SSC community needs to do some soul searching and to make a decision on what they want to do, and who their real leaders are. My point is simple, its time to stop the double talk and the cynical games. No one is forcing anyone to be part of Puntland, the SSC community has to take a stand once and for all. I for one would prefer giving Xagla, Ali Khalif and Garad Jama the benefit of the doubt and letting the community line up with them. What’s the need for all this constant friction for?

Scottish prosecutors have asked to interview Moussa Koussa about the Lockerbie bombing after the Libyan foreign minister and spy chief defected to Britain. The request from the Crown Office in Scotland follows demands from Libya's rebel leadership for Koussa to be returned to Libya for trial for murder and crimes against humanity after Muammar Gaddafi is toppled from power. Moussa Koussa. Photograph: Mohamed Messara/EPA William Hague, the British foreign secretary, has said the UK is not offering Koussa immunity from prosecution. The Crown Office in Edinburgh has said it is formally asking for its prosecutors and detectives from Dumfries and Galloway police to question Koussa about the 1988 bombing. "We have notified the Foreign and Commonwealth Office that the Scottish prosecuting and investigating authorities wish to interview Mr Koussa in connection with the Lockerbie bombing," it said. "The investigation into the Lockerbie bombing remains open and we will pursue all relevant lines of inquiry." Dumfries and Galloway police, which investigated the Lockerbie case, has confirmed its detectives are keen to interview Koussa. It remains unclear what role Koussa played when Pan Am flight 103 was blown up over Lockerbie in December 1988, killing 270 passengers, crew and townspeople. He later emerged as head of Libyan intelligence services. Koussa's defection provides Britain with an unparalleled source of intelligence on the state of the Libyan ruler's inner circle. The Crown Office interview request will further complicate the position of the UK government, which is immediately concerned with using his defection to intensify pressure on Gaddafi and his close allies, and to provide intelligence to the rebellion. Senior figures in the Lockerbie case – including Jim Swire, whose daughter Flora was killed in the attack, and Professor Robert Black, a lawyer and architect of the trial of two Libyans accused of the atrocity – have said they believe Koussa might have significant information about Libya's role. Koussa was pivotal in the negotiations to hand over the two suspects – Abdelbaset al-Megrahi and Al-Amin Khalifah Fhimah – for trial at Camp Zeist in the Netherlands in 2001. He oversaw Libya's negotiations to pay billion of pounds in reparations for the attack. The Libyans' consistent denial of responsibility for the Lockerbie bombing has been repeatedly rejected by the UK and US governments, and Scottish prosecutors. Swire, from UK Families of Pan Am Flight 103, and Black, emeritus professor of Scots law at Edinburgh University, have said they believe Megrahi is innocent. He remains the only man convicted of the bombing. As Libyan foreign minister, Koussa met Foreign Office and Scottish government officials at least twice in 2008 and 2009 to negotiate Megrahi's release from Greenock prison. Koussa visited Megrahi in jail. Megrahi's lawyer, Tony Scott, has declined to comment on the latest developments. Swire said the weight of evidence pointed to Syria as the main culprit but "within the Libyan regime [Koussa] is in the best position of anyone other than Gaddafi himself to tell us what the regime knows or did. He would be a peerless source of information". Detective Superintendent Mickey Dalgliesh, who is in charge of the Lockerbie case at Dumfries and Galloway police, said the Crown Office request to interview Koussa was "in line with our position that the investigation into the Lockerbie bombing remains open and we are determined to pursue all relevant lines of inquiry". Alex Salmond, the first minister of Scotland, said the Crown Office request was "an extremely positive step forward". Koussa "may well have important information to reveal which can assist what has always remained a live investigation". "Megrahi was convicted by a Scottish court on the basis that he was a Libyan intelligence officer and that he did not act alone. This welcome announcement by the Crown Office, and the intention of Dumfries and Galloway police to interview him, will hopefully lead to further information and lines of inquiry coming to light about the Lockerbie atrocity," he said the Lockerbie story rears its head..

^^^Thanks Nuune, your comments cleared up many problems I had with the official story. It looks like a snatching, poor Mr Koussa

^^^Is NW Somalia boycotting because of Amira Zubayra and Al Shabaab's refusal to go?

A meeting in Nairobi is meaningless. It has to be in Somalia if any other wise leave things as they are..

It was not so long ago that Moussa Koussa, Libya's foreign minister, was being wheeled out to defend Muammar Gaddafi's regime to foreign journalists at Tripoli's luxurious Rixos hotel. A small and tidy man, aged 64, he would appear – usually tieless in his pale grey suit – and read haltingly from a scripted statement. His message then echoed word for word, idea for idea, that of all of the other loyalists in Gaddafi's regime. He blamed a coalition of al-Qaida and western colonial interests intent on dividing Libya to steal its oil. He accused the foreign media of being part of that plot. Challenged on one such occasion by journalists, he angrily stormed out. Now the country's long time foreign intelligence chief, who became its foreign minister in 2009, has become the most senior of Gaddafi's allies to defect, after fleeing through Tunisia. From one of the regime's most loyal of the loyal, Koussa has become its most prominent defector, after the Foreign Office announced he was "no longer willing" to represent the dictator's regime. What is clear is that his flight has caught many observers on both sides of the Atlantic on the hop. US observers had previously speculated that the American-educated former head of Libya's external security service – and a keen basketball fan – was too closely implicated in the previous wrongdoings of the regime to be a likely candidate as a defector. The Libyan opposition certainly will regard him as very tainted goods, as well as proof that Gaddafi's regime may finally be fracturing and those who once saw their future with him now rushing to reinvent themselves. For although credited with helping to negotiate Libya's rapprochement with the west, ending Libya's pariah status, in a deal which involved its renunciation of weapons of mass destruction, Koussa was head of his country's foreign intelligence service during a time of several terrorist outrages conducted overseas. In 1980, he was expelled from his position as Libya's envoy in London for calling in a newspaper interview for the killing of dissidents and threatening to back the IRA if the United Kingdom didn't hand them over. Then he told The Times: "The revolutionary committees have decided last night to kill two more people in the United Kingdom. I approve of this." Libya later claimed he had been misquoted. Opposition figures have also accused him of being behind the kidnap and murder of several prominent Libyan opposition figures living abroad, including Mansur Kikhia, a former UN ambassador who was abducted from Cairo in 1993 and disappeared. He has also been accused by regime opponents – although it has never been proved – of being involved in the Lockerbie bombing as well as the downing of a French airliner over the Sahara in 1989. Although a French judge originally asked Interpol to seek him for questioning, for the second incident his name was later dropped from the investigation. He has never been charged with any offence and has denied all knowledge of any of the attacks. His role changed, however, after the 11 September 2001, attacks, when Gaddafi offered the west intelligence on al-Qaida. Then it was Koussa who emerged from the shadows to meet with senior UK and US intelligence figures, paving the way for Gaddafi's rehabilitation. More recently he had been at the centre of controversy again when he was accused of being one of the key players behind the scenes pushing for the Scottish courts to release the convicted Lockerbie bomber Abdel Basset al-Megrahi. Guma El-Gamaty, an organiser in Britain for a leading Libyan opposition group, said Koussa's action would be "a big hit" that would weaken Gaddafi. "He says he is resigning, that means he is defecting," El-Gamaty said. "He has been Gaddafi's right-hand man for years, running intelligence, running the Lockerbie bomber negotiations, running many things." El-Gamaty said he does not think Koussa is likely to remain in Britain but would likely end up in another country in an effort to avoid possible prosecution. He said that Koussa would not be welcomed into the opposition movement because of his prior actions on behalf of the Gaddafi government. When it emerged that Koussa was on his way to the UK, the Libyan authorities initially claimed he was on a diplomatic mission for Gaddafi. But within hours, the Foreign Office announced his real motive was to seek refuge. While his departure from the regime will be welcomed, what Britain will do with its toxic guest is another question.

^^lol@ secessionist you should have refused Mahiga from coming to Hargaysa since he does not recognise you either.

^^^Godane has been quite for a while..

Somaliland Refuses To Attend Peace Conference Secessionist have always been against peace. Nothing new.