Salaams Xiin, ayaantaan waalagu waayay....Very interesting that you brought up Prophet Yusuf(AS), I used him as an example during a discussion about political participation in non-Islamic systems. Like say running for Senator or MP. Correct me if I'm wrong, laakin Nabi Yusuf not only nominated himself, but also became what's known today as the Prime Minister of a pagan, multi-god worshipping nation(Ancient Egypt) Does that not pave the way, and provide an example, for Muslims living in the West to participate more fully in running their societies and affect change thru whatever system of governance there is ? What do you think ? Sorry for the slight hijack, Khalaf...I think it's related to the topic.

JB, You're talking to one of "THE PEOPLE", hada maala is inkiraa .. well not exactly, but my uncle is a dean at one of the universites in Hargeisa and I got other family members living there as well. This is what I hear from them, not Waxa-Yiri-News, or crazy stir-the-people-up politicians like Waraabe. This is news direct from the ground coming from well-informed, well-connected sources: -The average Hargeisaawi or SL'er doesn't give two cents of Chineese money whether recognition comes or not, whether secession happens or not. Their main concerns are the concerns of every Somali across the Horn: nabad, amaan, nolol feecan, jawi Islaami(Islamic atmosphere), an economy that can grow and sustain the shacab, and so on. Now that's some real talk right there. I understand your passion for 'independence' and what not, but lemme give you this hypothetical scenario: If Somaliland could develop at a phenomenal rate, a solid education for the kids upwards, a narcotics ban that would end the jaat epedimic that has wasted the lives of many young SL'ers, a strong economy with revenue pouring forth from sectors like, oil, natural gas, the port(s), animal resources, etc...with the condition that it drop it's secession nonsense, what would be your response ? You'd be a madman to say anything but yes. Those much-touted referendums ? lol, Heck, I'd vote for anything if I attended one of those 'pump-the-people-up-with-divisive-rhetoric' rallys. Sign on the dottted line ? Yessir, right away. But when cooler heads prevail, as happened during the outpouring of support for the ICU, we're all one people, and there's simply no escaping that fact...........unless of course, you just finished listening to one Waraabe's "Never Again" songs. Now that we've established that the whole 'independence' idea is negotiable(and something politicians use as a rousing rallying cry), all we gotta do is come to the wada-hadal table(of course, once the South gets it's shit together), and work out the kinks and fine print. I'll give you one simple reason why I personally don't agree with the notion of a independent Somaliland, or any other 'land' for that matter: It's ******. It's dumb. Ethiopia, as it always has been doing, will play the SL admin against the PL admin against Djibouti against Jubaland admin against Anyotherland admin, and come out the winner. Boombale-on-a-string. Divide-and-Conquer. Oldest trick in the imperialist's playbook. Can't be allowed, chief. Not in a million years, with all due respect to self-determination and allat jazz.

Originally posted by The Duke: Mogadishu pacification is under way and you can not stop it. Pacification eh ? Well, why don't we just ask Awoowe Wikipedia about Pacification and it's wonderful healing powers. In colonial times it often referred to the conquest and subjugation of a people opposing a colonial power, especially in the term 'pacification expedition', which may be used as a euphemism for war. Now hold up. Summin' ain't right here. Doesn't reflect real good on Adeer Yey and his Holy Grail. Hmmmm, I got it ! Let's ask Adeer Orwell Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism., question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness. Defenseless villages are bombarded from the air, the inhabitants driven out into the countryside, the cattle machine-gunned, the huts set on fire with incendiary bullets: this is called pacification . Millions of peasants are robbed of their farms and sent trudging along the roads with no more than they can carry: this is called transfer of population or rectification of frontiers. People are imprisoned for years without trial, or shot in the back of the neck or sent to die of scurvy in Arctic lumber camps: this is called elimination of unreliable elements lol, what is it with dhabo-dhilifs and their woeful inability to grasp the ironic. Nigga, you're hurting your own cause !!! War ESL yaa ragaan soo dhaaf-seeyay.

Emperor, Good try, man. At least you gave a response, but dodged(maybe unintentionally) my main point(s). Let me try to put it in literal far waa weyn. a)How does one reconcile his selective memory and 'humanitarian' concern for the genocide and massacres that took place in the early 90's with his full and unequivocal support for the a) massacres committed by his clan members(Cousin Morgan & Hargeisa, as an example) b)the recent massacre of Mogadisho, c) the wholesale rape and occupation of an entire gobol of Somalia(Somali Galbeed) by our 'guests and allies who came to rescue us at hour of need'? b)Ato, Ali Mahdi, Suudi, M.Dheere, Qanyare, Qeybdiid, among others, were the architects and leaders of the USC's murderous rampage across Somalia. They are now high-ranking members and/or allies of the entity you support. How does one support, defend, protect, and reward such men with a straight face, and then in the same logic-defying breath condemn the crimes they have committed. Could it be that they are now useful to 'the cause' ? c)I hate to use the term, but um, the term 'political whore' signifies somebody who will do anything to further their political agenda. Things like posting two threads which demonise(rightfully so) the actions of two clan militia while at the same time excusing, not even that, but fully supporting the genocide, war crimes, occupation, and oppression going on in the rest of Somalia, not 15 years ago........but hada, right now, primarily because Adeer(and by extension 'anaka') are benefiting from all the mayhem being commited in the name of 'dawladnimo'. Sorry, sxb. That's just an open-and-shut case of 'political whoredom',athigoo raali ah. Look, man. It's okay. I don't mean to put you on the spot like that. Just admit it. You and Cousin Duke are shamelessly exploiting the the early 90's genocide for a skanky political agenda that can be seen from a mile away. That's the way it's being read, just to let you know. Next time, sxbow, come through with something a bit more sophisticated. Laakin markee a lasoo shir tagtid "I-hate-the-barbaric-warlords-but-am-willing-to-sleep-with-them-because-they-are helping-my-uncle", walagogo qoslaa. Hadaa been shegaysid, dhar feecan aa loo soo geliyaa, or so went the maah-maah. Now, I'm tryna be more understanding of my political opponents, and you're one of the more reasonable ones. If you can be consistent in your condemnation of the massacres that happened throughout Somalia, including that of Adeers Zenaawi, Gheedi, Yey, Siad Barre, and Morgan, then I was wrong in my assessment and please accept my apologies. Otherwise(if you follow the poster of the other 'chronicles of genocide' thread), you will come across as an clannist individual with an axe to grind against two clans(who incidentally(hehe) just happen to be Adeer's current worst nightmare) and are simply using this thread as a propoganda tool, one fulla many logical holes. Hope this helps.

A few questions for the poster of this thread: a) What dawlad-isku sheeg has fully incorporated the USC remenants and the JVA alliance in it's ranks, together with the Ethiopian tanks and armour ? (Hint: acronym = TFG) b) Is it not than rank stankin' hypocrisy and disgusting political oppurtunism for one to profess support for the same entity that supports, protects, and rewards the architects and leaders of the ethnic cleansing, in Baidoa, and else where in Somalia. c) What do you call someone who conveniently 'forgets' the massacres and genocide committed by men he worships because of clan ties, yet trumpets the massacres of 'the enemy', yet incredibly, turns around and defends and protects 'the enemy' because now, they're on 'our side' ? I have yet to come across a word to describe such a person in the Arabic, English, and Somali languages

^ Oh it's back alright. The current war of resistance is just the birth pangs of a new Somalia, free from genocidal warlords, clannist dictators, and the status quo of fowr-pointi-fife. Once the current riff-raff are eliminated, and to paraphrase M. Dheere, helped on their way to Hell, it'll be a truly new Somalia with a new generation of young(relatively) respected leaders like Shaykh Shariif and Proffesor Addow. The next 3-5 years will be very very interesting.

@"get on the phone and call Uncle Yey" Yala yaa walad, call Adeer quick-quick. Xaal-ka kasoo waran. How's the beer holdin' up ? Stressful situations, like mortar fire and bombings, you know, small stuff like that, aren't really good for 80 year old men.

^ lol@neighboring 'countries'. Whassa matter, boss ? I thought we was all part of the same country....Somalia: Land of the Somalis Check this out: The Irish, the Scottish(William Wallace: Freeeeedooooooooom), and the Welsh have a much stronger case to make for independence, being of a completely different ethnicity than the English with a different language, culture, and history. Yet for some odd reason, they are all part of the same country: Little Britain. Cajeeb maahanoo ? As people who speak the same lingo, eat the same canjeelo iyo odkac, wear the same macawees, got the same big forehead....maxaa noo kala goy'goy'nee ? I mean, do you really wanna make me apply for a visa to visit the northern provinces of Somalia ? Do I have to go through Addis, get cleared by the joint SL-Etho Inter-Regional Security Service(IRSS), just to visit my Hargeysa ? That's really mean, yo. Not nice at all.

There seems to be a bit of misunderstanding of the whole Hajj/Umrah/Kacbah experience for women. Currently the way things are set-up, there are no restrictions on where a woman can worship, inside the Haram or outside(during Hajj). There also is no 'dress code' or forced veil(niqaab)-wearing. The atmosphere is very flexible and 'liberal', so to speak. They have their own separate Zamzam facilities where they can drink and even pour water on themselves(when it's hot). Should the Zamzam area(which is underground) also be integrated with the men ? This new decision (which, as the article notes, is being studied, and can be ammended) is simply creating an area exclusively for women, giving the sisters more breathing space. It is still in the 'saxan', or Kacbah area. It's not like they're being herded outside or something. Simple matter of comfort and convience. Would you, as a lady, prefer to do cibaadah among your kind, mase, you want to jostle and wrestle for praying space with men ? Those ladies who wish to worship closer to Kacbah, for whatever reason(travelling as a family etc), are allowed to do so. What's so problematic about that ? Say whatever you want about the Saudis, but when it comes to maintaining and developing the two Holy Cities, they don't cut corners. After all, it's their main claim to legitimacy.

^^There are brothels open in Makkah a few miles away from the Masjid Al Haram. I myself saw 3 Saudi youths being whipped in public in the Haram for 'mucaakasa', ie, hounding and stalking women to give them their numbers. This was during the last 10 nights of Ramadan. Police and the Morality cops make regular raids on 'dens of vice' where alcohol is brewed, among other things. Sexual perversion, and all other social ills, are not exclusive to the West. Men and women used to make Tawaaf around the Kacba in their birthday suits. Same jahiliyah that existed then exists now in the hearts of many Muslims. Wax lala yaabo ma ahan. Some women thought it wasn’t good, but from our point of view it will be better for them ... We can sit with them and explain to them what the decision is (about),” he said. The decision is not final and could be reversed, he added This is a positive development by the authorities. It would create an exclusive area for women to worship, while at the same time, allowing those who want to worship closer to the Kacba to do so.

They were asked to pray and then were masked and tied to a pole before a firing squad shot them dead. The two men are those who killed the Horuwa deputy district officer," a security source present at the execution said on condition of anonymity. Fil Jannati, Inshallah. The blood of a shaheed is never shed in vain. Something that is lost on the dhabo-dhilif dogs who fight only to live another day. Men of the Muqaawama, O Sons of Somalia, forward march.

Somalia's presidential spokesman was shot twice at close range in the latest assassination attempt on government officials in the Horn of Africa nation, officials said on Tuesday. "He was shot in the neck and near the jaw" a security source told Reuters. "I think the gunman was aiming for the head. He wanted to eliminate him." Former Idaamle.com owner/editor and current A/Y mouthpiece was targeted by the Muqaawama. This came shortly after the Tigray-led occupation announced(possibly by Idaamale.com dude) an 'amnesty'(lol) for members of the resistance. Well, that was one heckuva reply and a poetic one, at that too. "How's this for 'amnesty', yaa mouthpiece ?" is the clear message. Cabdinuur Waal(Sheydaan) oo kamid ahaa raggii aasaasey xisbigii Sharka ee ashahaada la dirirka ahaa haddana ka mid ah kuwa Tigreega la biidhi qaata ayaa maanta faro caaradood kaga baxsadey weerar lala maagganaa in aakhiro loogu diro kaasoo burburiye gaadhigii uu saarnaa. This Cabdi Waal guy was one of the main architects of the "Sell-Scholars-to-CIA" program. After they were returned from interrogation, he was infamous for killing them with his own hands. He narrowly escaped death after the 2nd Battle of Mogadisho when the ICU took over Xamar. Today, his life isn't worth labo kumi of lacag Somali and lives in hiding in the city he once lorded over. The fruits of treason: very bitter, I tell ya.

As expected, my questions go unanswered. Like I've said countless times before: "How does one justify the unthinkable ? How does one rationalise the impossible ?" Leave it to the local contingent of Etho apologists to duck & dodge when the heat gets turned up. What's even more amusing is the "That bad boy hurt my feelings, I'm not gonna talk to him" line. Thick skin will do you much good in the world of politics, yaa jamaacah. Above all tho, above the tribal rhetoric, above the flip-flopping, above the hypocrisy, the most disgusting attitude I've witnessed on these boards is the readiness of some(very few, u count'em on one hand) nomads to insulate themselves from the horrors that happen on ground. Quick to decry any atrocity that happens as 'hearsay' and 'sensationalism'. Any suffering is attributed to 'collateral damage'. And my all-time favourite: shifting the blame to the victims themselves. It doesn't go any lower than that. Same nomads then come here and tell us about their families, about what their little children did yesterday(oh how so cute!), writing amateur-hour poems to them and what not. Families and children that are safe and sound in government-subsidized dwellings while their counterparts on ground literally rent trees for shelter. Grandmothers who have to fend of rapists in uniform, indiscrimate shelling by heavy guns that wipe out entire families, all attributed to hearsay, propoganda, and liar news outlets like Kismayonews and the New York Times. Karma is a b!tch, wa kamaa tadeenu tudaan. For their loved one's sake, I hope they grasp that concept before it's too late. Khalaf, ina adeer, you're taking all this way too personal. All you had to do was comment on the NYT article. Here you go off on a tangent talkin' bout 'Violet is a gacal'. lol, focus, yakhay, focus. If it's any consolation, you are one intruiging cool dude. You were the inspiration for my Kooshin Balaq-Balaq charachter. Ghetto boy-turned-Tol-ka advocate-while-still-struggling-with-the-truth-and-reality. That'd make for some cool TV, I tell ya. Anyway, I had some reservations about your Islamic scruples, but hey, just like mentor Sakhar, you possessed an uncanny ability to turn the Islam-meter on and off, depending on topic of discussion. Word of advice, for what it's worth: Ditch the inferiorty complex, ditch the clan rhetoric, all it will do is consume you and condemn you to a life of bitterness, hate, and hawaan. Just take a look at where it took, Jalle Siad(died in exile), Aideed Sr(shot by his own men), and A/Y(hunted like a dog). Oops, just called A/Y a dog. My bad.

^ Allahuma Ameen. Excellent contribution, Haneefah. I'll be the first to own up. Shouldn't have targetted the cyber-traitors by name. Shoulda known that it would lead to derailing the thread. Shoulda known better. Lesson learned: Call'em out on insignificant threads. Waiting for a TFG-supporter to answer my Qs....

Now that we got allat nonsense out the way. Let's focus on the specifics. I'd like to find out the following. a) Is there anybody here that disputes the NYT story ? b) How do TFG supporters manage to reconcile their love(ok, their alleigance..no ? ok, their comradeship ? good enough, I hope) for Ethiopia with the way it is commiting atrocities against fellow Somalis all across Somalia ? I mean if somebody could rationalise this for me, I'd be ever grateful. c)Are you willing to abandon Somali-Galbeed to the Ethiopia if Zenwai promises(and delivers) to subdue the rest of Somalia through fire and steel to the TFG ? Ignore any inherent sarcasm, the questions are legit.

Khalaf, Why you watching me like TV, sxb ? Ignore my comments if they're too hot to handle. The truth is always like that. If you've got anything worthy of saying, if you've got one original thought, say your piece. I mean, fer cryin' out loud. My words managed to shake Khalaf outa hibernation. Same dude who was grouching about Violet's banning weeks after the fact, Same dude who was raising hell about Pi and Taako Man banishment doesn't blink a eye when I post two back-to-back threads detailing how Etho soliders brutalise Somali women...his sisters. Yet, true to his TFG apologist nature(he insists he's not a supporter), macalinka jumps up to man the defense anytime the cyber-traitors are under attack. Don't blame Ethiopia, he says. Don't blame the TFG....Saas aa lagaa rabaa..Man up, sxb. I like the new you..none of that muslim-boy-torn-between-his-tolka-and-his principles angst. Just stop sweatin' me like that, sxb. Last thing on my mind is what cyber-dhabo-dhilifs think about this cyber-creation called Kashafa. If anything, I write my posts for the silent readership; SOL politics section is where nomads world-wide get their news commentary from, I'm just doin my part. Some of us weren't made out to be cut-and-paste wizards...like whatshisname..Duke "who knows much more than you in Somali politics"....and with that quote, somebody just sealed in stone their level of ignorance about Somali politics. Do yourself(and this thread a favour), don't bother replying to what I just wrote. Focus on the NYT article that so many are avoiding. Can't stop the sun from shining, nor will putting lipstick on the TFG-pig help your cause. Now do you have anything to contribute about the NYT article ? If shame and guilt are obstacles, no worries, you're not alone. "Don't blame Ethiopia"...raggedii dheh Ngogne, This is not your Boredom thread, old man. Your affected calm fools no one but hides detached apathy and chronic cynicism(this is due to rejection experiences in life, says my Prof). One wonders if one would be so glib and so dupliticous if one's female family members were in harms way as the article so brutally exposes. One thinks not. Thanks but no thanks. If you wanna play the baiting game, you'll fail. Didn't work for Horn, won't work for you. This is not the thread for 12 pages of "you are this and this and this" Follow my lead and do what I do. I said what was on my mind in my initial post and then followed up with some concrete(if i may say so myself) thoughts and action points. In the English language, that's called 'constructively contributing to a thread'. Another example: Gordon, read the thread, didn't like what he saw, said his piece and bounced. That's somebody I can do business with, no matter our differences. me, Your welcome. Any word from the folks back home about the progress of the ONLF ? about any fall-out/reaction to the latest operations ?

^ Good call. I feel you on that 100%. Same here, I'm only targetting those who make noise about the 'Etho-SL'(or the Etho-PL, for that matter) so-called special relationship. Somalia burns under occupation yet some nomads see Ethiopia as a 'friend and ally'. It-ain't-our-problem kinda thing. That doesn't fly. We are all in this humiliating era of Xabashi occupation and domination together.

^ Great points. You should post more, Halgan. Let the tribal-oriented nomads do their thing, we'll do ours. Pay them no mind. Thanks, Horn. We'll do the friendly banter some other time. I'm reading(u should too) this NYT article for the 3rd time and am gleaning new perspectives. If handled right, this could be a damning piece of evidence that could move lawmakers in Congress to review and alter their relationship with Ethiopia. Gotta think long, Bush and the neocons are gone in 18 months. Democratic Congress + Democratic President + some smart lobbying(democracy angle) = strong possibilities. We already got D.Payne, who's in a strong leadership position, on our side. This calls for Paragon's letter-writing campaign. I'mma forward this to the Somali Diaspora Network, see what they can make out of it.

No denying the facts, sxb. A traitor is a traitor is a traitor....untill he makes tawba and redeems himself. Now please discuss the article(if you can), otherwise feel free to massage your conscience to sleep.

^ There you go again with your knee-jerk "Indocadde" reaction. It's fitting that your name is next to Duke, because that's your best talking point. Indocadde has been done and done ad naesum. Open a new thread and I'll relieve you of your Indocadde woes. This thread is dedicated to discussing the NYT article. Any thoughts ? Or is the shame and guilt too strong, as you once said in another thread ? Sincerely tho, nothing wrong in saying you were a former traitor, that you were utterly wrong in choosing Hiraale(not your clan, cuz your clan was and is one of the biggest ICU supporters) over your deen, dal, and dad. But you gotta say it. Tawba's always open. Not being patronising at all.

^ A man can't escape his past, Horn-ow, unless he comes out with a clear renunciation of his crimes(so to speak). Haven't seen that yet, and last I heard, you were still on the 'Blame the ICU for all the evils that have befallen us bandwagon'. Nothing personal. Don't mean to personalise the issue but I strongly feel that attitudes and viewpoints online stem from discussions(Tol-ka) on the ground. That's why I felt it was relevant to mention certain names. Glad to say that I only know of one openly pro-Xabashi Somali in real-life, and she's an elderly Eedo with a soft spot for Yey. The rest of my diverse Somali friends and acquaintances are staunchly anti-occupation, as they should be.

^ On-point analysis. Although, I think what Obama-mania owes the most is the ABB(Anybody But Bush) syndrome. Obama himself is basically saying whatever he can to appear as a 'strong on national defense' candidate, a traditionally Democratic weak point. So he's gotta overcompensate(bigger budget, Iran rhetoric), or so goes his political playbook.

That shows Somaliland government does not shy away to confront its friends,including Ethiopia, at anything that disregards the rules of the land and its national interests. I think this would would be a great bumper sticker for you. "The Ethiopians: Our friends, their occupiers...Win-Win relationship" Word of advice: Stop tryna save face when you have none in the first place. Riyaale, Inc got humiliated in the worst fashion, deservedly so. End of story. No need to spin these so that the proxy admin appears to come out as on top. When Massa says jump, the appropiate reply isn't muran iyo maxaa dhacay aa surwaal-ka oo seebaa, abti. Nah, the appropiate reply is: "How high, Massa ?" "Our friends" eh ? And I thought delusion was exclusive to Duke.

This is the ******, a spindle-legged corner of Ethiopia that the urbane officials in Addis Ababa, the capital, would rather outsiders never see. It is the epicenter of a separatist war pitting impoverished nomads against one of the biggest armies in Africa Anab, a 40-year-old camel herder who was too frightened, like many others, to give her last name, said soldiers took her to a police station, put her in a cell and twisted her nipples with pliers. She said government security forces routinely rounded up young women under the pretext that they were rebel supporters so they could bring them to jail and rape them. “Me, I am old,” she said, “but they raped me, too." “This is a country that is abusing its own people and has no respect for democracy,” said Representative Donald M. Payne, Democrat of New Jersey and chairman of the House Foreign Affairs subcommittee on Africa and global health. “We’ve not only looked the other way but we’ve pushed them to intrude in other sovereign nations,” he added, referring to the satellite images and other strategic help the American military gave Ethiopia in December, when thousands of Ethiopian troops poured into Somalia and overthrew the Islamist regime Human Rights Watch issued a report in 2005 that documented a rampage by government troops against members of the Anuak minority tribe in western Ethiopia, in which soldiers ransacked homes, beat villagers to death with iron bars and in one case, according to a witness, tied up a prisoner and ran over him with a military truck Peacock was typical of the rebels. He was driven by anger. He said Ethiopian soldiers hanged his mother, raped his sister and beat his father. “I know, it’s hard to believe,” he said. “But it’s true.” The violence has been particularly acute against women, villagers said, and many have recently fled. Asma, 19, who now lives in neighboring Somaliland, said she was stuck in an underground cell for more than six months last year, raped and tortured. “They beat me on the feet and breasts,” she said. She was freed only after her father paid the soldiers ransom, she said, though she did not know how much. Ambaro, 25, now living in Addis Ababa, said she was gang-raped by five Ethiopian soldiers in January near the town of Fik. She said troops came to her village every night to pluck another young woman. “I’m in pain now, all over my body,” she said. “ I’m worried that I’ll become crazy because of what happened.” Expert or not, they are determined. They march for hours powered by a few handfuls of rice. They travel extremely light, carrying only their guns, two clips of bullets, a grenade and a tarp. They brag about how many Ethiopians they have killed, and every piece of their camouflage, they say, is pulled off dead soldiers. They joke about slaughtering Ethiopian troops the same way they slaughter goats . Their morale seems high, especially for men who sleep in the dirt every night. Their throats are constantly dry, but they like to sing. “A camel is delivering a baby today and the milk of the camel is coming,” goes one campfire song. “Who is the owner of this land?” Source Long live the Muqaawama. Long Live the Resistance. Long live the brave fighters of Somali-Galbeed. This is the Ethiopia that our low-born low-bred cyber-traitors prostrate for. This is the Ethiopia they call their 'guests and allies'. This is the Ethiopia they shake their moneymakers at, being the premier political prostitutes of our times. Hiding under handles like Duke, Horn, Kamal,Gordon, Emperor, Dabshid, and Jacaylbaro, to name a few; With a straight face, they justify and rationalise what you have just read in the above qoutes. Dawladnimo !!, they cry. Somalinimo!!, they yell. Like dirty hyenas who scavange on their own dead, no act is too vile, no feat too low for the Xabashi Dhabo-dhilifs who dare call themselves Somali. Dhuli-nimo iyo Dhucfi maxaa lagaa dahaa. Go ahead. Put your best spin-move on this courageous NYT piece of reporting. Better yet, blame it all on the ICU for 'inflicting this disaster on Somali-Galbeed'. Ever the little-men they are, runnin' around looking for a way to explain their infamy. ICU haa kaa saarto cathaabu jahanama. God bless Donald Payne. Goes to show that there still are men of honour, beholden to nobody but their ethics, their morality, and their humanity, in American politics.

Why did not he just take off his pant like Riyaale did a couple of weeks ago when he was leaving for Europe ^^ , Macalinka ka qaleey nooh. If you happen to be a Etho chess pawn, remove your pants means remove your pants....or else. Seriously tho, I don't know how accurate this story is, but it's not far-fetched at all. Macqool jiddan for something like this to happen to Riyaale and the other guy "Seeb sarwaal-ka waryaa"