^^ If that's the case then blame Jb.

^^ That turned out to be an Ibti rumour. (try reading that last line with a blocked nose to get its full meaning).

^^ 'Waad ceebowday' xagaan ku sarrifa, saaxib? Explain.

^^ Don't say 'take over' SSC, say 'keep'. Be factual please. I am with Jb on this (sorry Paragon). The 'hay'ad' is called Somaliland Red Crescent, is it not? The rest is just a news report with hardly any commentary from Jb. If you really want to criticise, go to the Israel thread (now that's a disaster).

Originally posted by Malika: ^ ,your not there yet mate! Somali Idiom's isnt your territory yet..hehe ps.Waiting to learn,from Juxa the correct Idiom. Juxa is making up her own meanings here dee. As I understand it, 'bacda' is the plastic bags that are tied to chicken legs to stop them from straying far. The logic being that the chicken will keep trying to shake the darn thing off and will end up sticking around within a reasonable area. Juxa bacdi hore bac labad bay ku dartay wata ku waalatay 'you can't say that to a woman'.

^^ Xiin ano ila socda. Odeygan ma adeerki ba? Car ku dheh 'adeerka wa AlShabab'. Wuuba murara dhilaacaya.

Somalilandpress used to be a good site but now it has turned into a tabloid site with all this nonsense about Israel and some crazy oday living in Mogadishu. Grrrrrrrrrr.

^^ All of them if you read the first paragraph. We need some music to go with all of this. Here, have some Sinatra.... I'm gonna live till I die! I'm gonna laugh 'stead of cry, I'm gonna take the town and turn it upside down, I'm gonna live, live, live until I die. They're gonna say "What a guy!" I'm gonna play for the sky. Ain't gonna miss a thing, I'm gonna have my fling, I'm gonna live, live, live until I die. The blues I lay low, I'll make them stay low, They'll never trail over my head. I'll be a devil, till I'm an angel, but until then. Hallelujah, gonna dance, gonna fly, I'll take a chance riding high, Before my number's up, I'm gonna fill my cup, I'm gonna live, live, live, until I die! The blues I lay low...

Reminds me of the Somali madman who whilst we were cleaning the mosque, went to the microphone and started hitting it and saying 'testing, testing, 123'. Once he realised his voice was loud enough and could be heard all over the mosuqe (even in the toilets), he started singing 'magic moments when two hearts are caring'.

^^ Does it sound to you like there was? The NATO forces took their guns and let them go. A few days later, the SL coastguards find them in a coastal village and arrest them for that crime.

^^ Waxan naga daa and tell me why I can't say it to a woman. What does the term 'bacda iska fur' mean in your world?

^^ Have you recently got yourself a Pakistani girlfriend, Malika?

Juxa, Stop being paranoid adna. I don't know what qolo did the kidnapping this time but we all know which groups usually do it. This is not about pointing fingers. This is about people knowing who did it and using their contacts, tolnimo and influence to get the hostages released. Bacda iska fur.

Serenity, ileen I have a (not so) secret admirer anoon ogeen. Did you also watch me when I was talking to those two pretty girls with funny hates/hijab on? (Arr Siyidooo, window shoppingka aduunka ku dhaafay, saaxib). By the way, the author is a very pretty and nice young lady. Did you not like her, Serenity? Norf, I am only half way but I like the way she tells the tale and the typical Somali way of characters smoothly gliding in and out of the story. Every time a new character appears, you assume he/she is going to be central to the plot but he/she just disappears and the hero carries on going to the next place and adventure. Serenity is right; the author is very descriptive (at times brilliantly) that it becomes boring in parts. But seeing that I am also reading a Thomas Hardy novel alongside this one, I think I have become immune to too many descriptions. Don't let us put you off though. The dialogue is simple and to the point, the pace is fairly pleasant and the story itself is interesting. The only real problem (though very minor) I've seen with the book is the use of Somali words. I have a feeling non-Somali speakers will struggle with some of the terms. You can tell a Fish & Chips person wrote this book.

Ibti, adigu you need a whole reformatting job when it comes to protest and practical causes. We have had this conversation before and I always told you to choose your battles. One always goes for a battle they are likely to win, not for the principle and wishy-washy theatrics that achieve no results whatsoever. You are comparing two distinct causes here and missing the point entirely. Let me demonstrate (in all senses of the word). The first issue here is Somali problems in Somalia and in the media. That is the one that is irking you. You somehow believe that the Somali community in the UK should be doing something about this and uniting behind one goal. But you yourself go on to reveal that they are not united and usually fall along clan lines. Regardless, what would happen if they were united? What would demonstrations, meetings, placards and endless wailing achieve? Will it get the media to change their way of reporting? Will it force the multitude of parasites burning Somalia up to change their ways and seek peace? You know it will not and I know it will not. There are too many adversaries to fight in this issue. There are too many obstacles and the people themselves are not united. It is a futile fight (though fair enough for those that want to let off some steam and tell themselves that they at least tried). The second issue is one of an English couple who were kidnapped by Somali pirates. Nay, they were abducted by reer hebel pirates. The culprits are known, their kin are known and even the place they are holding these hostages is known. It is not the heady mixture of having to deal with TFG, PL, SL & Al Shabab all at once, it is the simple task of trying to convince a gang of pirates to release people they abducted. Waa more straightforward, achievable AND, with the added bonus of a favourable outcome for both the hostages and the Somalis in the UK! Wax fahan dee.

I'm halfway through it. Very good stuff.

Originally posted by *Ibtisam: ^^It is not good PR because they are dragging the issue out in the media for weeks now as each community center wants their bit, and Somali problem becoming a priates issues is not what we need. Ngonge: Nevertheless I don't see why it takes the whole community who are otherwise useless come out in full force for an issue that is easy enough to slove. Pay the damn money instead of paying the oldies here and the couple are free to go. Much do about nothing, It just annoys me to no end. And I'm pissed off coz everyone I've ever worked with kept calling me for a demo or meeting or type this or the other. Get lost!. :mad: The issue is easy enough to solve only when it becomes a BIG issue. They are doing it and this might result in the couple being released. You say pay the money but who will pay that seven million? The British Government? Too much noise will eventually reach the ears of those that matter in this case and the couple may get released as a result. The 'community' coming out for dead students in Xamar, an Ethiopian invasion or Saudi beheadings is, as I always said, stuff and nonsense. It serves no purpose and achieves no end result. This is different. Norf, This is the first I've heard of the whole thing to be honest, which tells me it is not as big as Ibti makes it sound. But then again, she gets the news before us anyway (considering her demo past).

^^ This is a doable campaign with a chance of achieving an end result. It's not a futile demonstration about Somalis beheaded in Saudi Arabia or an Ethiopian invasion. I'm surprised Ibti is angry here!

Originally posted by chubacka: she has a giant tattoo of passages from the Koran on her back. . Would love to know what passages and what led to such a strange deed. I don't think she has these tattoos on her back. It's just lazy journalism. The people who wrote this article copied it from a recent Daily Mail one. In that one, they had a picture of a model (from the film that Ayan Hirsi made) with tattoos on her back. But they made the mistake of writing Ayan's name under the photo. Trust me, it's not her. I have (on behalf of SOL of course) scrutinised the photo closely and concluded, without a shadow of a doubt, that the woman with the tattoos was white.

^^^ Black Mamba Boy by Nadifa Mohamed. Book presentation: Black Mamba Boy Friday 12 Feb. 2010. 6:30pm -9:00pm. Oxford House, Derbyshire Street, Bethnal Green

^^ Is it? I went there once. On the train. I had to pass Southall!

Sayid, I admit that I am not the best with directions. If this Hays place is not outside a station, don't expect me to bother. Warwar ban ku jira about Oxford House already.

^^ There is a guy who comes to Burco every year and tells young people he will secure them a visa to Ukraine for a few thousand dollars. He's very popular.

Originally posted by Malika: Ngonge, You sound so certain with your comments,actually it is leaning more on the 'jahiil' side. Sometime we comment about people as if we know their circumstances..We know jack shidh about these womens lives and their circumstances,reading an article doesnt give us the whole picture..Further more,no self respecting women would turn to prostitution if they could help it. ps. At the end of the day,each to his/her own in the day of judgement. What are you on about now? (I am on your side of the argument here).

^^ Trust me, that Ukraine guy is bigger than UDUB.