^^ I used to hang around with singers, once upon a time. Juxa, dee inta waan iska fahmay. But I was lost with the grammatical (and practical) way of avoiding a flood that has already taken you. Is it poetic license?

^^ Talking of Somali. For no reason at all, an old Somali song came to me on the train this morning and I've been trying to work it out ever since. It's the one that says "doqon'e hadal ma daysay, markaan blah blah blah". But it's not that line (though it's a great line, for obvious reasons). The one that confuses me is the one that goes: dab markaan ku juugsadaan dhamqada, daaad marko i qaadaa aan ka durga! (if the flood already took you, how could you get out of its way?). Mera jelaabi, don't vo-ri,I'm here to destroy the Somali language with you.

Originally posted by Maaddeey: Kan oo kale Gaal lama yiraahdo, waa Zindiiq! 'hoos ka gaal' raba in si uu moodo iney cilmiyeysantahay Diinta u dura!, been & runna isku dara, waxyaabaha muqadasaadka ahna dadka qalbigooda ka siibo, bal fiiri sida uu Tawxiidka ugu yeero 'The so called' ama uu gabadha gaalowday oo Aakhiro & Abaal marin ma jirto leh uu 'Mufakkira' & 'Intelligent' ugu yeero, Culimada oo la istikhfaafsado IWM. Ngonge, maxad ku raacsantahay Zindiiqa? Adna Zindiiq ku sheeg isna Safeeh ayuu kugu tilmaamay. Waxan ku raacsanahay hadalko qoray, saaxib. Anigu sidiina ma ahe, waxa qalbiga ku yaala ma akhrisan karo oo qofka waxan ku raaca wuxuu halkan ku qora (only). Rhazes, despite all your protestations, has not written anything that I can pick him on or tells me he is not a Muslim (indeed, he even confesses to be one). P.S. This business of scripts, two names and other nonsense should really stop. It is becoming very tedious and silly. Let them have ten names for all you care, as long as they're coming here with something worth reading/debating.

Not even the people of their own countries have anything to do with "these people". Paris Hilton's world really.

^^ Adkeeso, saaxib. Juxa does that to everyone.

Mera belli, when I hear the word 'babe' I could only think of that little pig in the movie. Let there be no 'babe' talk between us.

Time and place for what?

^^ War dee waxan ku idhi I can smell it on him.

A&T, I don't know who Rhazes is but I got a feeling (no idea from where) that he's an Arabic speaker (and not a Xiin, nuune, Baashe or Jacaylbaro sort of Arabic either). I trust it'll take you a week to get all his information.

^^ Somalis? Not Muslims? (I agree with the overall idea if not the detail). Aha, Norf! You think the parents themselves understand the faith then?

^^ Gabadho wax badan o ma bahnaa dee. Sasab yar bay doonaysa iyo in lago yidhaahdo 'wiswiska waa caadi'. (adna wax fahan).

Heh@half our women baa qafiif qabi lahaa. Walaal, xabaad saaxi idin kuma jirto.

^^ Waxaagu waa wixii gabadha diinta ka saaray. Wax fahan.

Norf, You say it's about education. You say that if people were taught right from a young age they would not have such conflicts. I replied to you and you agreed with me but still insisted on the education point. So I am asking you, is the fault with the educators then?

^^ Raamsade did not speak Arabic saaxib, this one does. And, I agree with him. Norf, maybe you are right about the education but that will bring us to the educators (which in turn will take us back to the mullahs). Wax fahan.

^^ I know, I would not be smiling if you were sacked, silly. Juxa, the use of the word 'babe' should only ever be tried around females under the age of twelve. Maybe C&H is short. Anyway, babe, baby iyo waxa la mid is usually what the americanos use, not Londoners.

She's excited about being sacked! Wax waalan. Chin up, Val. Doubt you'll be unemployed for long. Norf, Forty per month or something along those lines, I think.

^^ Don't blame it on the media, saaxib. The media is simply a reflection of society. (Any society). You can send someone to an Islamic school and teach them the faith along with Islamic manners for their whole life but they will still struggle to come to terms with the problems of today. Worse still, when they're presented with a readymade alternative (to opt out); it is no surprise that many choose to take it. Do you not find yourself confused by the messages of Al Shabab and others? Do you not distance yourself from them (because of what you perceive as your Islamic education) yet find yourself rudderless in a sea of questions! Take suicide bombing for instance; is the Kampala incident wrong because innocents were killed but one in Tel Aviv right because they're Zionists? (You'll find that many people agree with such a mad position). Then again, maybe you think they are both right. Or you believe that they are both wrong. But where does it all fit, islamically speaking? On women; the example of the lady in the first post is of one that feels disillusioned with it all. Again, her Islamic education must have clearly told her how things stand with women but she did not reject it back then and is rejecting it now. There is a reason for that. Is it the endless coverage? Is it the reactions of the scholars? Is it the excitable "xaraam" brigade? Is it the way Taliban and Al Shabab view and treat women? The examples and the questions are endless. The conflicting messages aplenty. Yet the proper debates are frowned upon (and the "she needs a Faarax" nonsense is the easy solution to give).

^^ Cheaper than Sky's five channels dee.

^^ But the problem is not taking place at the bottom, my friend. The real problems are all at the top. The rest are merely mimicking their leaders (or being turned off by them).

^^ Insua is off to Italy.

^^ Sixty quid here.

^^ You, Che and Geel jire are not mad. You're just unwitting hypocrites.

I miss the world cup too, CL. Now all I have left is reading nonsense on SOL.