SomaliPhilosopher;950714 wrote: Come on, saffy I expected you to cream him!!! you were too soft! Saalax? lool I had to leave to go pick up my sister and didn't want to commit to a debate, but honestly it's difficult to argue with the nonsensical.

Saalax;950715 wrote: Well that is the problem every Tom and Jerry masquerades attacks on the Sland and its people as that but truth be told it is something deeper than that. Slnders just happen to be more straightforward and don't beat around the bush. I disagree -- there is certainly much of that in the debate, but there are also many people who don't support SL because they believe in the Somali state. The positions within Somaliland are just as varied and complex, and one can support SL for a variety of reasons, for some people that reason is qabiil. But I will say that the SL elites have crafted a problematic discourse that relies on Somalia being the barbaric "other," in order to make the case that they are different and more worthy of the international support.

Saalax;950711 wrote: What is your take on people who take jabs at Somaliland? You can articulate a critique of politics without reducing it to clan BS, I'm consistent about that regardless of what region/state we're talking about. I just think Somalis can and should do better.

Saalax;950708 wrote: It is like an American from California the west coast of USA reminding a southern redneck from Texas of his backward uptight nature. Except it's not.

My heart is so full right now

Saalax;950702 wrote: Racism indicates different ethnic groups, I am Somali. I am just pressing Oba's buttons and reminding him the reality. It has nothing to do with race. C'mon now, qabyalad is a form of racism... and tropes of barbarity and primitivism in southern Somalia are certainly racist.

God natt oba!!

Saalax;950695 wrote: You know it is the truth, we have the likes of machete wielding Oba Hiloowlow who threatened several SOLers if they visit that city. Saalax, although you are among my SOL cousins, I cannot accept your racism and hatred towards other Somalis, sorry. You can be a Somalilander without that sh*t.

I'm ridiculously happy to be home, having bariis isku dex karis and watching the Young and the Restless with hoyo. And my dad has been wearing my university t-shirt all day (I got him one of those dad ones) with a matching kufi

Saalax;950687 wrote: Mogadishu would have been even more greater place if it weren't inhabited by uncivilized groups.

Good to know. But yes, if Mogadishu continues its progress the way it has, it will be great in two years

SomaliPhilosopher;950676 wrote: Saffy you don't need a lot of people or family there. The lingering threat of random acts of violence/terrorism is what concerns me though

oba hiloowlow;950667 wrote: do you have any relatives in Mogadishu by any chance? If you do i suggest you should call them and ask, the city has the best peace since the war started in 91 believe me people who have seen it all told me this walahi Oba, what's the city like for people without local/family connections? I think it's clear that things are getting better, but for a lot of us it still seems too unsafe to visit unless you are from the city and have people there. I hope to go in a year or two, though.

I manage the SYL fan page on Facebook, more pics/videos/historical info here: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Somali-Youth-League-SYL/108052855892328

Haatu;950489 wrote: Saff, I imagined you falling over whilst trying to get to the toilet :D lool no, thankfully I was in my seat with my seatbelt holding me in

Hi guys!! Just landed in Toronto. Horrible flight, turbulence all through the trip and we had two actual drops (drinks hit the ceiling!) but glad to be home. The view from Toronto Island airport:

SomaliPhilosopher;949998 wrote: You can go and vent to Wadani now safferz, my possible relative NOPE. I'm going to bed now because I have a flight in a few hours, but when I'm back on SOL I expect to see: 1) what city you're from; and 2) which side of the city you hail from, if the city happens to be the aforementioned two-region capital. Goodnight SP PS - I always vent to Wadani, he seems to be employing the "friend zone strategy," ee sida uula soco.

Hee?

Puntland

^^ I love that performance!! lol my ayeyo is from Galkacyo

SomaliPhilosopher;949987 wrote: Folks my family hails from Bakool and I live in beijing! I am one of those ex pat americans trying to be a doctor!! I thought I recognized you...

Oh and my ayeyo lives in Minneapolis too

lol SP now you won't get an answer from me until we get some info from you

Wadani;949975 wrote: lool, no I know ur one of the clans from Mudug. Just not sure which one. Are you, SP? One of my ayeyos is too, maybe you're a relative

SomaliPhilosopher;949964 wrote: Care to express such views Oh yes... I think Somalis generally prefer the hard sciences, medicine, engineering, etc as fields, and the vast majority of our PhDs are in those areas, so we have a scarcity of Somalis with (or pursuing) doctorates in the humanities and social sciences. It's in those fields - history, economics, political science, anthropology, etc - that knowledge about Somalia and Somalis are produced and in turn shape the discourse about Somalia (and feed into policy), yet we have so few people who are equipped to contest it. "Somali Studies" is dominated by white folks, which is a trend in African Studies more generally, but at least other Africans have a presence in the academic study of their countries. For every one Somali political scientist, I can think of 50+ white political scientists studying Somalia. And then we have the phenomenon of Somali PhD holders trying to become presidents and high ranking politicians back home :mad: