The Guardian Gaddafi could still have final say in Libya The enforcement, verification and permanence of a ceasefire could be a vexed and lengthy matter Muammar Gaddafi poster in Tripoli Muammar Gaddafi could still thwart Western attempts to oust him. Photograph: Ahmed Jadallah/Reuters Muammar Gaddafi's ceasefire offer will not satisfy western leaders queuing up to take a shot at him – but it's unclear what will. When the US and its allies invaded Iraq in 2003 the aim was to overthrow Saddam Hussein. When Nato entered Kosovo in 1999 its purpose was to stop ethnic cleansing by Slobodan Milosevic's army. The precise objectives of the Libyan war 2011, and how they will be achieved, are less well-defined – and therefore, potentially problematic. The ceasefire hastily announced by Libyan foreign minister Moussa Koussa in the wake of UN resolution 1973 authorising foreign military intervention will be seen as a welcome first step. Except that regime forces bombarding Misrata and other cities appeared not to hear the news. Given Tripoli's talent for lies, the enforcement, verification, and permanence of a ceasefire could be a vexed and lengthy matter. It will not happen overnight. Downing Street has tried to clarify what its eclectic alliance – including France, the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Italy and Denmark (and maybe Malta) – thinks it is doing in Libya. David Cameron and Barack Obama agreed that "the violence against the Libyan people needed to cease, that Gaddafi should depart from power now, and that the Libyan regime should comply with the [uN] resolution immediately", it said. William Hague, the foreign secretary, added root and branch regime change to this wish list. "The Libyan people must be able to have a more representative government and determine their own future," he said. On this basis, the expanding aim of the intervention is not only to stop the violence and remove Gaddafi (and his sons) from power. Its more ambitious purpose is to oversee a democratic system on western lines in a largely undeveloped country that has never known representative governance and has no tradition of civil rights and individual freedoms. This sounds more like Afghanistan-style nation-building every minute. The US and Britain both stressed the importance of Arab support. Amr Moussa, secretary-general of the Arab League, could be expected to agree. But he pointed out on Friday there must be limits to intervention, and there was already a danger they were being exceeded. The league had not backed an invasion, he said. In fact, all it had authorised was a no-fly zone – not aerial bombardment and not attacks on Gaddafi's troops and armour. And it was worried about civilians getting killed. "The goal is to protect civilians first of all, and not to invade or occupy," he said. "The resolution is clear on that point … we don't want any side to go too far, including Libya, by attacking the civilian population." It's plain that whichever way the stated aims of the intervention are defined, achieving them will be highly problematic. The least of them – a genuine ceasefire – would effectively freeze the current confrontation in place, with rival camps entrenched in the east and west. The conflict could degenerate into a prolonged stalemate, as in the Korean peninsula or Georgia. Meaningful negotiation would be impossible while Gaddafi remained in power. Interventionists cannot achieve Gaddafi's removal, another key aim, by force of arms, bar a ground invasion or a lucky shot. (The same goes for democratic governance.) The west is relying instead on more mass defections, an army mutiny or a palace coup – what analyst Shashank Joshi of the Royal United Services Institute has called "regime breakdown". By withholding immediate attacks on Friday despite French impatience to get stuck in, Obama and Cameron appeared to be hoping the pressure on Gaddafi and his supporters would lead to internal rupture and an implosion. Despite its military superiority, the west's reluctance to get involved on the ground means Gaddafi still has a big say over the outcome. He could fight on asymmetrically – although the odds are daunting. He could give himself up – but that is considered unlikely, as he would probably be lynched or jailed or both. He could flee, though it's uncertain who would offer him refuge. Or more likely, he may try to sit pat, talk about negotiations, husband his resources, and bide his time until the western powers lose interest and he can resume his war of reconquest. Right now Cameron and Obama appear to have the whip hand. But questions such as how long and how far they are prepared to pursue this campaign, and how they measure success, remain unanswered. Weakened though he is, Gaddafi could still thwart them. They have him in a corner. And that makes him all the more dangerous.

^^ Sagaal sano ayaa ka soo wareegtey, sagaal sano ayaa ku darsantey cimrigaaga, sagaal kalena wey kugu soo fool-leedahey, sagaal baana ka dambeesa, sagaal kalena wey u dhaxeysaa, sagaal sagaal lagu dareyna waa sagaal sagaal lagu darey hadaad ka jartana sagaal kale unbaa meesha taalo oo sagaal ku hoos nool, sagaal bilood baana ilmaha caloosha lagu hayaa sagaal kalena waa la sugaa sagaal iyo toban sano markuu ilmaha gaarana waa loo guuriyaa sagaal bilood kadibna waa loo dhalaa durbaba macdantii adduunka kolkuu seyro

^^ or at least adventure 2 hour stay in Burco

looooool chelsea vs man united real madrid vs tottenham

Norf, war naga daa hanagu kaakicin, ciyaartii xalayto neerfooso aan ka qaadey

Gooni iyo Toosiye, waad ku mahadsantihiin cilmiga aad soo bandhigteen. sadex ayaad qofka ku barataa, inaad jabad la gasho inaad jadiin la cunto iyo inaad jid la marto meesha dhaheyso jadiin la cunto, waxaan filayaa iney tahey qeeb ka mida ama nooc ka mid hilibka geela, bal arrintaa ii soo kala cadeeya idinkaa geel jirayaal ahee

France to start bombing Libya within hours from now, sources to mad Sarkozy confirmed Lyzie-Gaal, hadeynu siyaasad ka murano, dee arrimaheeni kale ayaa khattar ku jiro

iska jeclidaa inaad iska maqasho

^^ greetings from where else dee, I know inaad jimicsi u aado buuraha Naaso-Hablood, ma meel kalaad taqaan

^^ Oh dear Lyzie-Gaal, according to you, the Western military planes hovering the airspace of another sovereign country is not an invasion.

Interesting debate on Libyan Jamaahiriya TV, click here lool the panel on Libya tv waxee jarjareen si xun lebanon

10 votes to invade Libya, Russia and China afraid of the US, they abstained from voting. Approved to invade yet another Muslim country

Watch here the LIVE voting of the Security Council on Libya invasion

Welcome walaal, OK

I’m told about the Pakistani shop assistant who, picking up an Arab woman’s shopping bags, accidentally passed gas, got arrested, and was jailed. Some questions needs to be answered, how load was the passed gas? what frequency were of her ears?, how quite was the shop? how busy was the shop? how busy was the young Emirate lady? how did she found out that it was he who passed the gas? the gas might have come from her! was there a gas detector device in her own purse? who arrested him? who jailed him?, why was there a police at the shop?, was she a security officer's daughter?how was he arrested? handcuffed? dragged on the street? how long he spent on jail? The article is rubbish, some truth there, but rubbish overall, some envy individual not happy about the progress of other countries

kuwaa oo kale markee kaa hor imaadaan lagama leexdo, waxaala dhahaa "aan isku dhacno" kadib aa la is dhax galaa. Bilan, su'aalahaaga jawaabo ayaan u raadineynaa

MMA, waa idin ka qalleenaa camal, ee laakin xalwada gobol ii soo tuura, kolleey tii horaa iga qarsatee

Aaliyah, sheekada marka la qaso waxaa ka soo dhax baxo wax kastoo qaamoon-qaanshiir ahaa oo dhan, qaamoo qaanshiirkaas haddii aad sii qastana halkaas waxaa ka soo if baxayo alaaba qalabeysan oo qumbeysan ood ku qanceyso maskaxdana juusto kaaga dhigayo ee quluubta runta u sheeg oo aayar qaansadaada iyo gamuunkiisa isla qoysta

abaaydeey maa lagu jiraa hadii tuwenti ilaban lagu jiro, waxaa xisaabisaa imisa sanadood aa is taqaanteen, illaa 2002gii aa is taqanaeen iska dheh like me, hadii aan isku kiin meherin lahaa 2002gii, hada waxaa heesan laheedeen about 8 children, kan ugu weyn toban jir uu ahaan lahaa oo primary school dhamaadkiisa ku jiro, xisaabtan aa la rabaa duqa, see camal Aaliyah, sax waan kugu raacsanahey, walaalaha waa is qaraabsadaan, waana la is qoor-sagaareestaa

^^ War gabadha aan kugu meheriyo, waa aragtaa usha waa laguu taraarixiyey, maxaa sugee in kor loo taagaa

Malika, ma waran baa kugu taagan, I have a Somali solution for this, I hope you know it, waxaad soo qaadataa bakeeriga shaaha, the plain glass one's we used to have back home for shaaha bigeyska ah mainly, then waxaad soo qaadataa a plain A4 paper, isku laab-laab warqada oo jajabi and put it into the bakeeri, it has to fill at least half of the bakeeri, then tarraq soo qaado or kabriid, ku daar warqada bakeeriga ku dhax jirto, the flame and the burning will come up quickly so higher and it will go down little bit, now at this stage you will have to have someone, you will have to lie down on something flat, the other person will be holding the bakeeri still in flames on the back where the pain is, how the bakeeri will be held is upside down as to feel slightly the hot coming from inside the bakeeri, at this stage, the papers hav already burnt and good visible flames are on top but not falling on your back, there is no danger, and I will not advice you to do this on your own if you haven't practiced it before or know someone how to do it. The whole duration is less than a minute,

Why no one is offering Malika some advice on the back pain , jimicso huuno, jimicso, and last but not least, jimicso

^^ lool he could hold a SOL logo on a piece of paper with a photo shot then post it here. Malika, the guy and the girl needs Quraan saar, only after that I can provide advice, which is doing an online-nikaax session, meherkooda ha ahaado markab masago ah iyo mukulaal ukkunteed

Adiga iyo gabadhaba Quraan saar baad u baahantihiin, Ilaah ithinkiis wax kasta waa idiin hagaagayaan Inshaa Allaah, faataxadana inoo soo akhriya

trolling from bed, ehehe, iska ilaali gacandhi iyo dharaboow ama dhuudhi yuusan sariirta kuu galin, and they will cause virus on your computer