Bring the issue to Muslim streets and ban their products from the shelves. Hit them where it hurts the most. If a mother/sister/daughter can't practice her religion freely and French value forced down on her throat, they should choose to not do business with them. Where is the Muslim Streets located?? Also assuming Muslims were not too busy arguing about the length of the trousers, or the right colour of the hijab and actually decided to collectively boycott business from say France (Europe is impossible) Muslims are not self sufficient enough to produce anything and be truly independent. Additionally there is the issue that business are privately owned, so will you be punishing someone/company because of something they may or may not agree with?? Western companies might lose a bit of Money in the long term, but Muslims cannot plan nor able to sustain themselves without western produced goods. The whole Muslim community worldwide could not boycott Israeli products who murder and occupy Muslim land including one of the most holist Muslim sites, you think Muslims would boycott better about niqabis or hijabs?

Originally posted by nuune: ^^ How come JB got this article before you Looool HAhaha. If I can answer that JB wrote the damn thing. 13year old in Somali terms is an adult, not the same as 13yr old in the west. Even their six year old is freakingly oldish in mind. Somalis traditionally married 14/15/16 Girls mainly, most of our parents got married around those ages.

Nuune, no, for SOL I have to upload into another site, then use the link here. FB wa direct! Bangalore is dead unless you are a student or into technical things. I only spent two days there, met few African students who live there. On a positive note, the roads are more developed and nice buildings, but still dirty. Che, I did not want the Bengali to get jealous and mad at me, he was already slightly pi*ssed off that I insisted on the trip. (war don’t get in trouble, he now reads SOL) I am thinking of buying th Domain name: nevervisitindia.com

In the past 10 days the outspoken head of the Mecca branch of the Saudi religious police, who enforce official Islamic morality, was fired and then mysteriously reinstated after he broke ranks to say that there was nothing in Islamic tradition and law banning mixing. Newspapers reported vaguely that a high-level figure had intervened to save Sheikh Ahmed al-Ghamdi, after the president of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, or religious police, signed and published an order naming his replacement.

^^^Mostly crazy- well that is how I came back anyway. After 5weeks you need rehab. Loading pictures into SOL is too much work, so I just posted them on FB. I forgot my flicker password anyway.

Originally posted by Ferguson: I am planning to visit India, next week. Any tips Ibti? My tip would be don't go, don’t go, but if you must go, be safe, don’t' trust anyone and assume 90% of what anyone says is a lie, it does not matter what religion they follow or how nice they seem or what uniform they wear. Keep your passport at all times (sleep, eat and shid with it) (dont use their safe unless you can put your own pin number on it) Leave your phone, watch, rings or anything worth anything to you behind. It is really hot, currently 47 on the day I left, so drink lots of bottled water, don't eat their food (serious spicy, dirty and strong) Eat only in big famous places, don't eat at the market or dirty looking place, or street (they have so many food stalls). If you are a women (doubt it) or you are taken a women, stick to her like glue or don’t take her, the number of perverts and people who just touch or follow you is mind blogging. Don’t go to shopping markets in the evening (it is too packed and they use this time to squash up against you,) no such thing as personal space. Also they have 5-10men working in anyone shop/stall, don’t follow them into the stock room, insist they bring out whatever they are showing you, keep the door open and make sure you can always see outside/street. Stay in the tourist area, seeing other foreigners is your only comfort. Don’t answer their questions or make polite conversation, that is the same as saying come to my room. Lastly carry perfume and hankie with you everywhere. Good luck, I know you will need it. Which part are you going?? I only went South and West, North is much worse, horror stories in newspapers about foreigners and bombs and trouble.

^^I am all for in kitaabka zeroga aha laga tuuro, at least 5% mid aha ha la siiyo for the time being while he plays catch up!. Jecelkisa aniga iyo burco tonoa wax kuma falano ruunti, just for his own safety, xanaaq baadan blood pressure aa laga qaada. Adiga aya wax ka nax aya jooga meesha eh nikan daab qaabo aan ku leehay. Adiga ayan kugu haley from now on yeah.

^^Dhee uu sheeg markaas, he does not like me, something to do with Burco saas uu ka qabo, so he rejects anything I say. Baal adiga hoos hoos wax ugu sheeg, naxriis ta Allah uu tilmam. There are people that are and I would agree with him, but this nomad wuu ku geefiya wrongly. Shid waan kuu taley meeshan, suufi kitaab eber ah la ordaayo aya weliba deegah soo duubey!!

^^Ma iil aragety, all this backwards and forwards about 2000 Women in france and few 100s in Europe, it would be so much easier just to say, OUT all Muslims, get your bags and go ASAP.

^^Ma sidas baad ku tahey nabadoon?? A thread about the status of Khat max keenye you are gaal iyo wax kale about a nomad he knows nothing about beyond the name Aliamos?? And then following that nomad to every thread, wax ma laga xaadey? Nuune correct and support your brother if he wrong or write, but in different ways, then you are a true nabdoon, ruunt uu sheek, hadi kale adiga ayan kugu kal teegey

Originally posted by Tuujiye: Ibti I'm sure you could at least write "adeer" in somali..come on now! Somali is your language not english for god sakes... Atheer you write Somali that only your own ciyaal xaafad from Xamar will understand, English like the 4th grade and mix the two like oil and water, so you really cannot point at me, at least people understand what I am saying in both languages. If this is between you and Ailamos, then send him a PM and save the rest of us reading your stupi*dness.] lool adeer bal fiiri doqonimada aad soo qortay! please read what you wrote adeero! like you said is a forum, which means you could pick and choose to read what ever you like.. Make sure you don't read anything that I write sis lool is not like you could read somali anyways!...and 90% of the things I write is in somali because my ingariisi is adeeeging! If anyone ay doqonimo heeso it is you, maybe you started with good intentions, but you have to know when to let go, as for not reading what you write, normally I don't, but since you have taken upon yourself to police others, it is only fair people point out your own bullshid nooh? FYI I can read Somali. war ileen balaayo..Ibti ma waxbaa idinka dhexeeya adiga iyo Ailamos? if thats the case, I'll step a side because when you say things like, "someone you know nothing about" you are giving the impression that you know this person personlly.... warka noo cadee ama naga dhaaf naageeskaan aad u naageyneesid Ailamos... Again it is a forum, I do not have to cadee or vouch for Ailamos or anyone else, but what I am saying is that you are wrong on so many levels, so quit making a fool out of yourself and even worse in front of Allah SWT you are taking upon yourself to dictate who follows or don't, afkaka miyi wax gaaliye? Lets not go in circles yeah, let this go :cool:

"Once we solve the burqa problem, we'll still have the problem of polygamy, of praying in the streets of big cities, of banning pork from cafeterias, in short all the sectarian demands the French are confronted with daily," Right!!!

Yes, I have my old number back so call me. Get on the bus like everyone else.

Loool Juxa, I sont have no numbers, they stole my phone, so call me when you are on your way. I wont cook lunch, but I will feed you. This was the fist thing I wrote, I'll add my review, and pictures, dont be so impatient. North I could not agree more. Walahi when I got really sick, I blamed it on all the hunted looks. Alhumdulilah

Originally posted by B: quote:Originally posted by *Ibtisam: 2) You lack of understanding about Islam or what it is to BE a Muslim shows in all of your responses- so please don’t claim to be representing Islam, just say I like being a saqanjan. It is often this type of hardcore Islamisation that is dangerous, provocative and arrogant. Islam is not the definitive and final answer to all of mans problems. We need to promote dialogue and discussion so as to promote greater understanding between all people. Of course, Islam it self is a religion of tolerance but its adherents are arrogant and often naive. We need to encourage a plurality conscious ways of thinking and seek to incorporate socio-cultural realities on the ground into our paradigm of how we see the world. I dont know why you quoted me B, but I believe that Islam IS Islam is not the definitive and final answer to all of mans problems, so I disagree with you. But this does not mean that there is problem with dialogue. Nor do I like you comparison of man made Paradigm with Islam as an ideology.

Originally posted by Tuujiye: ^^ War ileen balaayo! waxaa la dhahay bajaq hadee dhahdo waa iska hadlaa, xaaqada dhabxanaga kaga dhagan xitaa wee kasoo fuqee..bal fiiri waxa aad dhaheysid iyo hadalka meesha aad u qaadatay..Uff iyo caleekba adaa isku kakabtay.. No idea what you are trying to say, your Somali is as bad as your engrisi. 3)Lazy who you defend and even here bring up and Aliamos are on the same page, both have issues and things about Islam they want to discuss, how strange that one you shadow and follow around like a cuung who lost his mother and the other you defend? Is it because that your objection is not in fact based on religion? Layzie is my sister and I like her but I even told her to get off this islam attack and questioning the extreme views of few and I even send her a PM however, unlike your gaal friend which you now admit that he does have issues about islam, Layzie is a muslima weyna ashahaadataa but can you proof me your new friend is a Muslim or a gaal with issues? intaad fasaleeti qaabdaran isku soo dhiijisay baad iska nac nac leynee..hiilis jeclaa.. I don't need to proof what anyone believes, nor can you proof what they don't believe, who even cares? does it really matter, it is a forum name posting on a discussion forum. As I said, and had you followed the discussion ME, Lazy and Aliamos had on this forum, you would see that they are on the same page. I think both have issues with certain things, which I dont agree with, but I dont attack them or get personal, somthing you are unable to do. I'm not here to defend Islam, i'm just against does that mock my faith and bring on their own intrest in SOL..hadii aad caqli yartahay adiga oo aadan fahmi karin ninkaan, ama uu already ku gatay, anaga noo dhaaf anaga ayaa ka keensaneyno u jeedadiisa.... I know you are not defending Islam, in which case saqajanimad iyo ciyaal suuqnimad meel la fadiso oo wax isku faal. I do not think you understand how serious it is to call someone who you know jack about a GAAL. Mida kale I know you hate me but this is between me and Ailamos but if you would like to continue with me waan kuu digay hadaba "ha i caashaqin" lool Hate you?? atheer you are a forum name, nothing more or less, what is there to hate on?? This is not real life, so don't get it twisted. Your threats mean nothing to me. If this is between you and Ailamos, then send him a PM and save the rest of us reading your stupi*dness.

Originally posted by Tuujiye: looooooool@ Ibtisam quote: Tuujiye as usual waad iska haadsha, I do not think you realise how serious it is to call someone a gaal. Maxa ka shaan iyo tooban aah what he is in any case? Why are you stuck on this? Adigu ha ku gaalobin, and I say this as someone who knows better than YOU. You are following this nomad around, insulting and calling them names. This is a free forum for all who stay in line with its rules, no one made you the police. If you want to talk about Islam and who is Islamic, you can scrutinised your own actions, for even in this forum you have written things that would make some Muslims turn blue- just look at your cantrabaqash and ill conduct on this forum and tell me that is a model behaviour for a Muslim. so ibtisam, you need some Tuujiye med I see... so I make muslims turn blue? or I make your boring self blue and even more sad than you are... I don't run around act like I know the religion because I don't as much as some people in here but I make more sense than you and this Gaal guy... I might joke around (some thing your missing in life) but when it comes to faith, I don't argue un like you and I hate does that argue about it and question everything about the faith specialy when they non believers. I think Ailamos is very smart and wise but the way he questions my faith is very munaafiq nimo when he knows the answers and thats why I argue with him.. no wonder why Layzie was on your case lol... please don't start with me and run to the mods as you always do...I didn't break any rules so nice try too... I been here longer than you young one and don't think anyone will agree to your B.S waraada, Khat is what killed our nation and truely believe is wrong....laakiin hada umada somaliya joogto daawo ayuuba u yahay maxaa yeelay hadii laga joojiyo bee waalan doonaan ... Wareer Badanaa!!! 1) I think I understand now that because YOU dont understand your own faith and what you believe in, you fear what questions others may ask and hide behind young people or women will be mislead. 2) You lack of understanding about Islam or what it is to BE a Muslim shows in all of your responses- so please don’t claim to be representing Islam, just say I like being a saqanjan. 3)Lazy who you defend and even here bring up and Aliamos are on the same page, both have issues and things about Islam they want to discuss, how strange that one you shadow and follow around like a cuung who lost his mother and the other you defend? Is it because that your objection is not in fact based on religion? 4) The sad thing is that you think NOT knowing the deen and walking around in ignorance is bliss and something to boast about. :confused: Maybe if you made an effort to learn, know and understands then you wont fear other humans who have different view to you. If you argued with Aliamos it would be a breath of fresh air, but you are just being foolish and making a mockery of Islam and Muslims as result. What does Islam have to fear from a human, regardless of how smart you think this nomad is? Uff caleky, let it go.

…..If I was a poet, I would find the words, If I was a poet, I could express the feelings, If I was a poet, I may have succeed And told you my tale; I would explain the stares, the bulging eyes, that peel my skin back, till I shrink back, Still I can’t hide. Maybe one day, the bulging eyes Would see right through? The skin will drop off And I will disappear. There you will see, my shadow walking: Without my skin! You stared it off, till it dropped off, And now I’m walking, a walking shadow. But you keep staring, your x-ray vision exposing my shadow…

^^^Loool ma ilia aragtey.

Adam no sure really, guess you have fans, so please tell your fans I had nothing to do with anything. I am peace loving, drama free sprit, who only cracks jokes in public with other nomads. Maybe they thought you was really having our baby or something. :eek: Paragon, I'm sure it did

^^^Lool^ trust you to pick up on that!! Adam not really into drama, so wont get into names, I just wanted to check that there was no hint of truth in their angry rants. Good to know I had no role in whatever it is.

Tuujiye as usual waad iska haadsha, I do not think you realise how serious it is to call someone a gaal. Maxa ka shaan iyo tooban aah what he is in any case? Why are you stuck on this? Adigu ha ku gaalobin, and I say this as someone who knows better than YOU. You are following this nomad around, insulting and calling them names. This is a free forum for all who stay in line with its rules, no one made you the police. If you want to talk about Islam and who is Islamic, you can scrutinised your own actions, for even in this forum you have written things that would make some Muslims turn blue- just look at your cantrabaqash and ill conduct on this forum and tell me that is a model behaviour for a Muslim. As for the topic, Khad is like alcohol.

Mr. Prince what on earth :eek: :eek: btw way Adam while I was away I recieved a strange message from one of the nomads, apparently I did something to you or something and as a result you are hating on Somali girls :confused: I said I'm not aware of it but maybe my evil twin did something? C&H dont get too worked up about it, the guy I think was talking the pi*ss!!.

^^^Where/ which country is Khat allowed and other intoxicants banned? Somalia and Yemen think it is barris and nothing else is banned there.

^^^Late 40s is not that old dear, waa young ladies ee be nice and make peace, axsaan uu sameh