Loool @ peoples posts!!

Key point Val, "working", all the ones on ciida will be shipped back, leaving behind only the working men and young women. All the hooyoyin and the loser welfare mans, send them back.

I dont think Val is in the UK, but if she is, you must ask certain person for permission, still too early *ducks from val flying shoe* Lool Not only you, but all Somali euros

Looool @Wax walba hurguf and see what crawls out. Hahaha lool. We can't all madax ku soco!

It does not feel like a friday Jumca Mubarak and w/salam I am working on sunday (SOl needs a crying pic) If the blues make it, all the somali Euros have to go back

Loool @ have strong opinions and at times can be quite scary. anigaba ka cabsaday. So not true, I can listen to people even if they are saying the most crazy offensive thing and wont get upset. Okay Val, what do you say to your new position of ciyaal xaaf kaal ceeli all day?

5am :eek: :eek: I am working, Rat race dear. I might join your life style. Waan iska jaafey saririta at 7.30am. My alarm had been going off since 6.30am

Juxa, dont you think I will be a good mediator Okay maybe Val then. P.s. I am taking full payment for the apology Tuujis made for calling people gaal when they dont say I am gaal. I feel proud

SalamAlikum people. wlc the back door deals and madness that comes with hung parliament..........

^^Hear Hear^^ Originally posted by Sherban Shabeel: Ibti, Everything I said in reply to your post was strictly in reply to your post, which I still find wack no matter how many times I go over it. What I said isn't an observation about you in general, but about that post which denotes an attitude I'm criticizing. I never said I'm not interested in a conversation, I said I don't have the energy to argue with you when you come at me with a very rudimentary understanding of my faith and then try to say "well, look it's so different than mine!" How could you know it's different when you don't even understand it? LOL, what? Are you suggesting I believe in more than one God? Or that I don't believe in the hereafter? Or in all of God's prophets and all of his books? I couldn't care less how extreme you are in your beliefs, but please do inform yourself before you start mocking saints. Just as your comment about the model Iman shows, you assume that I'm as ignorant about Islam as you are about Christianity, you're projecting your ignorance on me. Think again. All that being said, please do know that I like you as a person (from what I see on this forum) and I wish you only good things in your life. Sherban, Strange we seem to be saying the same THING but from different points. - I said and still saying you do not understand what Iman is in Islam, hence why you can claim or argue that a saint or even you can share the same components. - You are saying I don’t understand your religion, and hence why I am arguing it is different to mine and cannot share the same principles. As for my ignorance of Christianity, I know the basic, I took one lesson a week in school for five years and I have done few extra reading, so yes I am sure a Christian person will know more than me, but I know the difference in the fundamentals between the two religion, and this is why I decided to be a Muslim and not a Christian. (Yes, I decided as a young adult on my own, despite taking my family religion as a child) So if you want, when I have time during the weekend, I will show you WHY I know the principle of Iman is NOT compatible with Christianity, saint or otherwise. You then can respond based on your knowledge as to why you think it is. I maintain that if someone shares and believes in the principles of Iman as they are in Islam, then they are a Muslim, not a Christian or catholic saint. You might find that offensive, so if you are going to get upset later and take it as me bashing you or Christianity, then I will keep it to myself. Regardless of what YOU as an individual think or believe in terms of how the alike the religions are. Yes there are similarities, because the fundamental message of Islam is exactly the same as the original message of Christianity and every other book before it, but I think on this principle at least there are vast difference. What or how much you know about Islam as a whole is neither here nor there, credit to you if you know Islam as well as some Muslims, maybe you can take something away in the end to add to your understanding and likewise for me, because even if you dedicated your whole life to any religion, even years of study, you can never know enough.

C&H, he is not only one who says 6million is too much, and since it is an estimate, then there is no need for him to have proof that it is not so, it is a guess and maybe an educated guess, he is doing his own guess work, along with other people. The holocaust argument was used by the Zionist to lay a claim on Palestine and justify even today why they must at all cost have a country of their own. The logical answer is that since Europe was responsible for the holocaust, they should give them a country in Europe, rather than the Zionist now committing a holocaust on Palestinians. There is nothing ****** about this argument either and again has been made by intelligent people since 1947.

I am not the defender of all Gaalos, Acuudbililah. I just said we should all make our points without making everything personal or having to get a forum name written in blood to ensure they are blue blood. This forum is crazy.

Aliamos. While there is no specific legislation about the niqab, covering the face in public - even with a motorcycle helmet - has been outlawed in Italy since 1975. Cities controlled by the Northern League have used this law in the past to ban Islamic veils. Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Woman+fined+wearing+niqab+northern+Italy/2986829/story.html#ixzz 0nBvEBoEO You see the ban in Italy had nothing to do with Muslim women. I can even tell you why it was first introduced, but you might already know.

@ Lazy. Your post above I agree with and makes sense to me, wax kale from before is confused.com. In any case I have been defending people and attacking ones who easily or have a habit of calling others gaalo, waaxas oo trouble adiga, cara, Aliamos, Naden, Beer Gaal and few others baa ii geliye because I have to keep fighting with people not to call you gaal or this or that, and YOu want me to thank you. Ciika uu bood and send me cake What I most agree above, "A good Muslims by example" All his shouting and labelling. Sherban, I read your post, I dont agree, I do not think your main point is valid, I dont think you are interested in a convo or discussion so I am suprised that you even bothered in the first place. Also I think you have me confused with someone else, unless when you say YOU, you mean it in generally rather than my attitude or what I do. :confused: In ANY case you said you was not interested, so I will let it go.

A young patient died after operation. I can't help feel sad

Lool juxa, you can probably get them to do anything u want!! So much of working from home, they been calling me so much for basic things, it is pis*sing me off so much so that I am going in now to just do it myself! :mad:

Still sleepy.... yawn. Juxa and Faheema you are both getting old if everyone is starting to bother you. I can give you ear plucks

I can't wa xaaran Was waiting for delivery, which has now arrived, feel sleepy though, lool @qaxqaxdeeda

Working from home today, billing.

Originally posted by Sherban Shabeel: quote:Originally posted by *Ibtisam: quote: Originally posted by Sherban Shabeel: quote: Originally posted by *Ibtisam: ^^Wa la bahey, I have to come back and read this thread when I have time. Did she really say a saint struggled with Iman and a "great" one for dying as a catholic loool I'm sorry, what's so wild about a saint struggling with Iman? Sherban. She is not talking about a saint struggling with the model Iman, but rather an important principle in Islam which determines the strength of the believer. It is made up of separate and hierarchical components, the lowest component being removing a harmful object from the street. The whole principle can ONLY be implied to a Muslim who is attempting to at least fulfil the compulsory components (six). So yes it is Wild to apply this to a saint, who not only falls outside of Islam but has no wish, understanding or compulsion to fulfil Islamic components (which are contradictor) to his faith. He would probably find it insulting. 1. Iman? Do you really think I'm that thick or was that a joke? 2. I fail to see how these Islamic components are contradictory to his faith. 3. Unless you know him personally and have talked to him, you can't know if he would find it insulting. If he were to find it insulting, he'd be called a fool, and not a saint. Saints aren't pedophiles, or people who trash talk Islam, or who knows what you're imagining. Saints are saints for a reason. I don't have a problem with you thinking your faith is superior to mine, and if you think I don't deserve the same rewards you do, then I ask you to pray for my salvation. What I do have a problem with is your divisive discourse. Like Muslims and non-Muslims are like oil and water. Keep driving these wedges between people, so that they become even larger than they are today, until there is an abyss between them. That will be the beginning of the end. Sherban, it is not a matter of being thick, it is a matter of you not fully comprehending what Iman is, much like lazy, your respond to me above shows why, but instead of asking me WHY? you have already going defensive. I don’t know the saint, but I do know Islam, and I know what parts IN Islam which are not acceptable in Christianity. I never said he is a pedo or this or the other, those are your words, so please don’t fob them off as mine. Perhaps you are use to people saying that or maybe you worry about that too much, but I was referring to the compulsory components of Iman, (maybe you fail to see the contradiction because you dont know what they are? To mention a few; 1) To believe in Allah, alone (not trinity, not saints, not Jesus or Priests who has special link to God, Believing in God has further components (two main categories) which define his lordship) 2) To believe in the hereafter, hell and heaven and the characteristics of its people ( I doubt he thought he was going to hell) 3) To believe in Angels (This is the only component he could share/ believe) 4) To believe in all the books, including the Quran, (he who disbelieves in one has disbelieved and to believe that the Quran is the last word of God revealed to Mankind)(Saints cannot believe in the Quran as the only preserved Book of God in the original form existing in the world now) 5) To believe in all the prophets (26+ mentioned in the Quran, Mohammed as the last messenger of God, and Jesus is just a messenger) (He cannot believe in Mohammed PBUH,) You can search Quran Chapter 2 Verse 177 if you want to read it more about this. Okay, so if someone denies anyone of these categories or subcategories, then they are classed as deviating from Islam, as it says in Quran Chapter 4 verse 136, if someone denies Allah, his angels, books, messengers and the day of judgement has gone astray. So you see regardless of how highly you think of saints or how nice or respectful they are about Islam, from Islamic prospective there is no way he could have fulfilled the components of Iman, if he did he would be a Muslim. As for you, what you believe in, your reward or otherwise, I don't really think about it much, but since you asked, may Allah (SWT) guide you and me) Ameen. I know people who believe that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are pretty much the same and as long as you believe in God you are okay or equal, we can all hold hands and so forth. I have never claimed to be a liberal, I am extreme in MY believe. I do not think we need to all act like we are clones in believe to be able to have a discussion or respect each other, nor do I see why people get offended by what another faith preaches about you. Christianity, Judaism and Islam or even Hinduism preach that if you don’t follow this or that then you are going to hell or will be punished, it teaches that YOUR path is correct and everyone else wrong. If someone people have watered down their faith so that it is friendlier to other people who are not of that faith that is your choice, but it is not my role to change or adapt Islam. In nature religions are exclusive, not inclusive of everyone. So lets quit pretending. I would respect someone a lot more if they stayed true to what they follow, rather than cutting corners and trying to patronise me.

^Check her website, it is maintained by nice Canadian Somalis who direct info and funding to her from the diaspora. Drop them a mail.

SalamAlikum and good morning peeps

Subxanallah. Dr. Hawa is one of the few people in this Somali mess, who is a true Somali and has stayed to help maskiin people when everyone else fled. May Allah help her. Poster what can we do for her? Unless you are trying to reason with people who fund or have links with those who attack her.

I am really enjoying watching them fall apart, one member at a time. Hate, will kill you in the end eh.

The British National party's (BNP) beleaguered election campaign hit a new disaster today when its head of online operations quit the party and took the website with him. Simon Bennett, directed traffic to his own website, where he posted an outspoken attack on the party and its leadership, the Times reported today. Mr Bennett suggested the party was disorganised, amateurish and constantly wasting membership fees. "This will no doubt [sic] come as a shock to many of those that read this, particularly those who really don't want to hear it," he wrote. "However, I have a duty to the members and my conscience, but most of all to my wife and children, to tell the truth behind the spin." The website was briefly down yesterday afternoon before it was reactivated, but the comments quickly spread across the web. Party leader Nick Griffin and election fundraiser James Dowson w e re branded "pathetic, desperate and incompetent" by Mr Bennett. It is just the latest incident of infighting threatening to the derail the far-right party's general election campaign. Mr Griffin himself recently informed police that someone in the organisation was trying to kill him. The party was also damaged when it used an image of Marmite on an online broadcast, leading the manufacturers to serve an injunction against it. Mr Bennett said he warned the leadership not to proceed with the stunt, but was ignored. He claims to have been physically threatened over the website and insisted he would call the police if the threats continued. Diversity champions Emma projected a Nazi symbol onto the side of the Commons last weekend to warn voters of the danger of backing the far-right party in tomorrow's election. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/elections/news/article/bnp-in-turmoil-as-online-chief-sabotages-operation/1 9759643