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Cag Baciid aka Nur is a dedicated anarchist and anyone who questions his commitment in advancing anarchist's "jungle idealogy" doctrine will be dealt by the much feared state security agency know as "Qawleysato" Muraad watch your step! Caaqil, Mr. Jiinoole ninka kula hadlay waa wiil-hoogii wiil-belo ahaa oo haatan kaala kalaamaya xarunta madaxtooyada ee dalka. War kuguma seegana! Waxay ila tahay inaadan u baahneyn inaan ku xasuusiyo taarikhdeyda iyo heybta aan Soomaali ka ahay. Waxa igu maqaalo ah in aad sheegatey PM. Hadde annigu waan qayilsanaa oo la igama talo-gelin magacaabistaada. Hadiise Nur kuu gartay kursigaas annigu hadda ku casilimaayo. Waxaan isku ognahey sidan inaad yeesho: 1. Xatooyo-xoolo dadweyne, Bililiqo, iyo waxii xurquun ah oo kale ee inna soo gala waa inoo qeyb. 2. Reer Garas iyo cidii kale ee aan soo diro sii waxay ku weydiiyaan. 3. Inna-rag sidiisaba haduu qori wato oo uu qab-weyn yahay lama qadiyo ee sii waxuu janto. 4. Tolkaa ha qadin marnaba hadii kale ciidan ka helimeyno. 5. Nimanka reer Qansax waanu dirirney ee ha dhadhansiin. Hadaan xarig iyo ceejin isugu daro dan bey u ogolaan xukenkeyga. 6. Hadal ha igu soo celin.
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Breaking news from Wargeyka War iyo Wacaale , His excellency Mudane Baashi is now the president-elect. He's won the election in a landslide. The final tally was 99.99% of the votes. There were, it has been reported, some discrepencies in some of the precints. Nevertheless, the election committee have certified the results. Muraad is in jail now. Nur has been fired. They were not close relatives of the president-elect. In order to consolidate the power, Shoobaro is now the acting manager and treasurer. He will wearing different hats. Nur, Muraad are exxpected to held a news conference to take an issue with the president-elect and to put spin on the fall from the grace scenerio they found themselves in. There are rumors that they have close relationships with foriegn waste disposal companies and fishing industry in other nations. To be continued...the drama has just begun. You can follow the latest political news on the internet. Just click on http://www.all-reer-Gasarnet.com
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Let's call this thread Ngonge's diary! Bit by bit, I'm getting Ngonge's profile. It is not complete yet but in a year it will be complete. This is how much I know about the man: short, chubby, bearded man with no reliable transportation . He often speaks to himself. He hangs around in the bathroom. He meditates in the middle of the night and the subjects he wonders about are trivial in nature . He is simple man. I don't know the guy, I don't know any one who knows him. I gleaned this info from his diary...it is there trust me! He is the best writer SOL nation ever produced. He entertains us and he doesn't ask much in return. **where's my tea...there it is
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Xoogsade, You speak for me bro. Again we can talk about how Somali men are bad or how it is difficult to run a multible wivey homes with all the lil rascals running around and how they will all be in need of care. But that is another topic. Let's hear from the ladies, in unison chant , that polygamy is valid and there is nothing foolxumo about it at all. Some of the qallanjooyinka find it very difficult to concede that point. AS, Yeah right as if you know Somali men inside out What a bity! they even exist There are all kinds of Somali men around. I would be very reluctant to generalize Somali men and reduce them into... Ngonge, Sixty is the ideal age to engage in this practice Save some dough now and you will be set. Who knows what the medical technology have in store for such men...something better than viagara I hope
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I'm back fellas! what we got here? And here I thought I will be challenged with compelling reasoning as to why on earth u think polygamy is invalid and unnecessary! Instead u come up with: "I dont have to accept pologymy because it is not obligatory nor necessary" something I thought we put to rest...again what you do and whether you accept it or is not our damn business. What we are interested in is what makes you say it is not "valid" and it is not "necessary". One more time: Islam clearly says polygamy is "valid" institution and necessary (Divine wisdom who saw fit to legalize it) solution for Muslims. You think otherwise! Can you plz elaborate.
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Originally posted by Devil's Advocate: Actually, here is my list: 1. Polygomy is not encouraged 2. Polygomy has limitations 3. In order to be polygomous, yuo must meet the criteria 4. Polygomy is not necessary 5. Polygomy is widely abused 6. Polygomy is not valid to me I agree with u on these #'s: 1, 2, 3, and 5. But position # 4 and 6, are not compatible with Islamic religion. If these positions are compatible then you could help Muslim women who are torn inside: on the one hand they are fighting with human dispositions that would not necessarily like to share. On the other hand, they understand that one have to embrace willingly the Islam in it is entirety. To be Muslim is not mere chanting of the Shahada. It is about following the Allah's directives which in this case validates and makes polygamy necessary societal solution that has to be there for men to exercise if need be. Therefore, I'm sure these reasonable sisters would appreciate if you can enlighten us how your two positions can have legs to stand without negating the very directives that was in place since the light of Islam had been lit. I understand that you have every right to choose what is valid and what is not. However you have no right to invalidate what Islam clearly validates, justifies, and make is it legal. So, again you are making me out to be this evil, anti-islamic, western feminist person is really not gonna happen in this thread. Are you? Tell you what don't put much value about what other people virtually thinks about your screen character. I for one come here to make my boring work go fast. Man! I didn't notice i was doing that :confused: C'mon cut me some slack here DA...I undertook the task of defending the polygamous men all over the world from youn intelligent women like you and 7 of 9 and other virtual assassins
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Xoogsade, Wanaagsan oo wacan...ii dhaaf qallanjooyinka bal annaa cabaar la sii wadaaya inta shaqadu ii dhamaaneyso. Then I will call it a day DA, Come again! what is your point? make it clear and concise plz? Let me help u here 1. Polygamy is valid but some men abuse it. 2. Polygamy is valid provided that it meets the criterion. 3. Polygamy is valid but I don't like it. 4. Polygamy is not necessary. Let's forgot about our previous encounters lest that may effect our good judgement and our ability to reason here...fair enough? excellent! Now if you are going to agree position # 1 and 2, then let me inform you that everyone so far agreed that much. If you are going to take position #3, then by any means it is your perogative as you are certainly entitled to ur opinion. Religion is clear about this anyway. If you are going to take position #4, you will have to go against the infinite wisdom of the Creator who saw fit to make it legal. Again if I were u I wouldn't do that. We can run in circles and talk about what you consider foolxumo and how the men who exercise this legal option have questionable character and so forth but that will be unnecessary as I and others don't endorse the abusers of the system. They exist and it's a shame. The bottom line is the polygamy is valid and the pious men who are responsible and understand the weight and seriousness of this polygamy bizz have the option as well as the right to do so. There is nothing foolxumo about that darling. Finaly let me preempt one thing and that is doing this behind the back of the first wife. Well would you at least agree it is not foolxumo if he consults with her? If the answer is yes then case closed Not that he has to but at least u agree that much which is in itself is a good start
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Xoogsade, You seem to be veering into other realms (whims and irresponsible men)...you are off topic mister! and I'm not sure what is it that you are agianst. I'm not here to cajole or flatter you into submissin to my views I thought I reasoned my way into the heart of the matter. I see you are not against polygamy per se right? You are against, however, people abusing that legal option. Same here! Most of men (responsible, pious ones) understand that. What is it that we are disagreeing here? Nada
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Morning, Xoogsade, Well well. First let’s draw a line in the sand so we know what we are discussing here. I’m under the impression that we are talking about a married man (impersonal) going for the second wife. We are not talking about a fella looking for an excessive indulgence in sexual activity. Now an “expression of fondness†from that qallanjo and “adulating expression†from her is exactly the desirable impression one should be after. After all, the existing contract permits the right for the husband to enter three more contracts. No? Let’s agree then that if one wants to go for it legally, one must use all the moves one knows in the way of shukaansi and xod-xodasho to attain one’s goal. Is polygamy necessary? Depends! Is it obligatory? Of course not! Is it legal? Absolutely! Having said that, I would be really surprised if I see someone who wants to exercise this right in NA as he would be asking for trouble (the system is antithesis of polygamy relationships). Moreover, it is illegal (here in the States) and it is not feasible economically. As to the point of you being cool, confident and in peace with whatever the “calaf†have in store for you Mansha’Allah…Amin to that. I’m sure you are in the minority. There are “young and gifted†fellas out there in the real world who are tired seeing their time, energy, and even money wasted in their search of potential soul-mate, some are stuck in relationships with no future, others are bouncing back and suffering from breakups, and being lonely. Let's not kid ourselves here finding Ms right can be frustrating, challenging, and time consuming endeavor for many. I’ve seen folks here go to other continents for that elusive potential soul-mate. They always succeed, it seems, in capturing the golden cup finally… U seem to be careless by waiting your door to be knocked by the lady of your dreams. If she doesn’t show up, well you will just have to get up, drag your feet and knock her door. The challenge is which door to knock and how you go about that. What if you are disappointed time and again – some get frustrated. 79, I assume that manners of the single men that you are referring to are bad. In that case, we are on the same page. Shukaasni can be fun, legal, and fruitful and it is not as dirt as you seemed to make it. I wonder how this negative connotation with shukaansi came about...care to share with us. Husbands should have the right to exercise polygamy as an option without the permission of their wives. However, I agree that it is a common courtesy to at least consult with their wives prior the act. I can see how difficult that would be. You can't have your cake and eat it too. On the one hand, you reluctantly concede that institution of polygamy is valid in your book. On the other hand, you are throwing so many obstacles in the way of exercising this legal option. If getting (hunting as u put it) a second wife is disgraceful and disrespectful, I wonder what remains of the polygamy. PS: Ok quit that i can do for ur sake...no more "petite/pious" words in my post wonder what is underhand about them :confused: Ngonge, Qaxar iyo nus! sxb so much headache
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^Hold ur horses there darling. I'm not justifying these crimes and I'm not saying anything about married men "masquerading as if they were not" is acceptable. let's be clear about that. Now if you accept polygamy as a valid act then by logical extention you would agree with me that married man can enter their second marriage the same manner they've attained the first one noh? As to how you are going to act in a manner accordance to with ur principles...that's fine. But don't you agree that calling "foolxumo" for what other "pious, smart, pettite, confident girls" know is legal and made part of their principles, is uncalled for **Done for the day...Let's called a day **
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^It so happens that ur likes often fall for the guys who are into multiple wivey bizz I can see all the ingredients there...is griirixis iyo annigaa ...and then he is my best friend then he is the best i wish he was single then...whould i mind? I don't know umhhh it depends ...finaly after u put ur cards on the table it would be his call to accept the offer and he might decline Sh*t like that happens u know! Darling, human nature is a force to reckon with and unless u r endowed with "that" inner beauty, self-confidence, and the grace to accept "calaf" and the hand u r dealt, u'll live in rage and "the life is not fair" kinda attitude. Mistresses, concubines, and extramarital affairs do exist in this world, no matter of what you think of it these human behavior are here to stay for as long there r humans, civilizations have done their best to regulate. In Islam, polygamy is legal provided that u meet the criteria. Now in this context, it is not foolxumo me thinks. 2895, We r on the same page Btw, i didn't avoid it...I agreed with Xoogsade! addiga iyo dawaco, iyo Xoogsade dad wax ogol oo la fahmi karo baad tihiin
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Xoogsade, Good points there! How I can dissagree with that. I want to but you covered all the basis :mad: No holes there. How can One look in the eye a woman he cares about and tell her, Hey honey, guess what? You gonna share me with heblaayo, your best friend. If there is an excuse, like lack of children after years of Marriage, and She gives her blessing, I can understand. Bull’s-eye! Now Xoogsade, things get complicated when u plug few variables in the equation. I'm sure u understand how challenging and frustrated it can be to get the "right" gal/guy. For the gals sometimes the "right" guy happens to be married man :cool: I wouldn't be surprised if the "smart young pettite cuties" with the "right mindset" understand that they have that option if their potential husband-to-be dissappoints them
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Sophist, JASMINE is right [dhiin[/i] is casaan or gaduud. Ayoub, I don't know about that! For lack of better word, I will take it.
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^^^Abusive Arraweelayaal getting undeserved help from uncle sam :mad: bacda madow oo banaanka la isu dhigaayo...so much of justice Don't read these posts too mush to it though For ur info, there are many many pious, intelligent, educated, and pretty qallanjooyin who don't mind sharing good Farax with another reasoble and pious sis . Keep pointing fingers at the young cuties with the healthy mindset Never say never u never know waxu waa adduunyo
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2985's deduction surpassed my expectation... This is how she connected the dots: 1. Say you enter into the “Right Marriageâ€. 2. she "allows him" to have a female friend…. 3. that “friend†gradually becomes the 2nd wife… 4. and there you are in plural marriage. 5. polygamy and Marital Bliss. Brilliant
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Wlc Mr. Luggooyo, Now why would a Brazilian call himself Somalia? Why not? People take all sorts of names: Fox, Wood, Paris, Tiger, Rice, etc. Perhaps he likes Somali chicks ...they are admired all over the black world :cool: .
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Securing Anarchy: 1. As the next President of Somalia, what would be your priorities to secure Anarchy which we Somalis love, in the first 100 days in power? I will fight tooth and nail with the push-overs, doves, and other sissy softies. I believe in strength. Somalis need tuulo-joog with an attitude. 2. Do you belive in the freedom to own and carry guns? because as they say, guns dont kill people, (poor)people kill (rich) people. Absolutely! As Somalis says, dagaal gondahaaguu ka dhashaa. You have to be armed all the time even in the Masjid. I believe in Anarchism. In Anarchism you need to have armed clan militia in order to serve as a check to those in power. The era of security by the authority (naturally reer hebel) is over. 3. How would you enforce and maintain Somalis's supremacy in Anarchy? This is the only category that we have no competition as a Nation. Trust me! 4. What would you do with petty criminals raoming the streets? Any programs to increase their income? This is a tribalism in its purest. What you assumed to be petty criminals are in fact disenfranchised reer hebel. They have to be given a seat in the miis rag leeyahay. Not only that, they will be given a permission to get money from the bank in the nomadic way. 5. What is your long term strategy in securing Anarchy in Somalia, for example, The Northern Brakeaway Republic of Somaliland is a threat to Anarchy, and Puntland is imitating that region , what are you going to do about these concerns? Somaliland will be captured by force. We won’t listen their grievances and their concerns. We’ve secret dealings with Riyale and Qeybe. They owe me a sack of green. They better deliver or else. AS you know me waan ku xajiimoodaa stability and the so called an oasis of peace. You never know though as Mr. Siilaanyo promised me a cut of their pie I don’t whether I should insist on destabilizing their backyard or doing it for myself. Puntland is a piece of cake. They know inna Kaadi Najaasle is their man and he is running for the highest office. Maxabada ay ii qabaan waad muraaqooneysaa. I’m from reer Garas and they know it. Economy 1. What are your priorities in the liberalization of the natural resources and water supply? toxic waste dumbing, forset destruction, over fishing on Somali coasts with japanese trawlers vacuuming all our resources to make few anarchists rich etc..? I don’t like the way you have phrased the question. Our shores are waste treatment plant. Sh. Cilmi-dhegood allow Janadii kaa waraabi blessed and it become tahliil. If I only knew what he knew. 2. Do you believe in globalization ( in Somali it is dubbed " Ninka Roon Reerka Ha U Hadho " principle of dog-eat-dog market competition, dumbing and locking out little guys out of lucrative consessions? Absolutely it is the only system that do wonders in the poverty stricken backward countries. I have a name for it. It is liitaha gadhgaadha 3. How are you going to spend aid money? It will be distributed evenly to my loyal officers. They have constituents you know. Unlike Us, I don’t call it “pork moneyâ€. Because pork is xaaraam. I call it sad-bursi 4. How many of your clan supporters are going to be treasurers of public funds? This I have lil difficulty in deciding. The reason being I got 350 cousins and they are all loyal to my administration. They shed blood on my behave and they can be unpredictable. So I will talk to Sh. Baruurcunne to do some Khilaawo for me. 5. Who are you going to appoint to head the important position of Briggs?Cash Transport Company? Naturally that must be Inna dhurwaa-hilbo-ku-rarte...he is the second son of the Ugaaska reer Garas 6. We understand that you are currently broke, financially, we accept the fact that the first 4 years is for you to get rich, my concern, is waht are your plans for the next four years to develop your clan? Well I will be managing the national turf...Qeybiye ma qado ***Waar maxaad leedahay soo addiga shidada iila yimid...innaka daa dadku haygu barrin su'aalahe e***
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Ninyahow xikmad badanidaa
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Aah! You should read my book. You see I've put alot of effort to figure that out. I should get some thing in return. On a serious note, qallanjo I don't know runtii. I can tell u this much though. About 30% is a gut feeling, About 40% is a homework, and if you have the patience to do "trust but verify" work you would at least have the big picture of the character you are going out with (this doesn't apply to players, pathelogical liars, and womenizers, etc). Finnaly, 30% is a mystery. There is no hard science on this...u know
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Maandeeq I've been reading books, magazines, reciting gabayo, talked to waayeel who should know one or two about this, went to all over the world to find the answers for that question. So far, this is what I learned: marry right, and once you are in make it work...bal hadii aad wax xikmad ah oo arrintaa ku saabsan aad heshid inna-adeer ila soo socodsii
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No no no sxb, u got it all wrong! This one will work one way or another. It will be shoved up in their (all of them including SL) throats by force. I'm telling u man...according to illo xog-ogaal ah. As for the CY and whether he is right for the post is not up to SOL nomads Surely you don't want ask Jamatutu views on this man's eligibility for the leadership. You need an objective observer with no hard feelings...that is not the case with Jamatutu. Here you have someone who deep down believes that Galkacyo is not a city with 2 paved streets, it has no sand, and reer Galkacyood are baalashyaal in Benadir, Kismayo, and Nairobi . All in all, Caqiidku is dictator but for carrying out loud don't ask Jamatutu about CY By the way, since when Nairobi conference, its candidates, and the positions it offers were subjected with such scrutiny. For carrying out loud you don't have to have good credentials to declare ur candidacy. And certainly you need 185 votes from afar jeeblayaal, warlord admirers, ex-ministers...if u wanna know why he should be elected ask them. Maxaa inna Yusuf lagu maagey haddii waxuba xaaraan yihiin.
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dawaco change that nick to Maandeeq U deeq the Maan ukhti. I like it . As for the topic, as a married man I understand what it is all about The rest of u - bunch of talkative singles - are just very sensitive doobs. Doob dareen baa dilay!
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Dawaco n Shoo inna Baro...don't stretched folks
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Nur, How am I doing in the polls so far? It doesn't look good, it seems. Find me spin doctors and political pundits. I know me being reer Garas is a problem in itself. Who should I tailor to my next speech; shoul I appeal to traditionalists, Xerta, nationalists, ciyaalka xaafada, or moryanta and jiridida. I need in-depth report ASAP. I've heard rumors that there are nomads who are willing to make better concessions to the kingmakers - the neighbors you know.