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  1. Posted

    Haatu;909911 wrote:
    Carafaat we're not as foolish as our kin across the border (Somali Galbeed). We've been there, done that and have achieved a big fat ZERO. Also, Somalia wasn't that interested in liberating us as they were in Somali Galbeed. So we then decided instead of living in constant fear and violence and achieve nothing, we'd rather live in peace and get whatever paltry sums Nairobi sends our way. Thanks to this sound logic, a lot of lives have been saved.

    Not really, the shifta movement was defeated after all the supplies and arms dried up from Somalia. Cigaal signed a "no contest" treaty with Kenya and that was the end of the secessionist movement. It was emergency laws and brute force after that...no more garab from older brother.

  2. Posted

    Haatu;909907 wrote:
    It appears I hit a nerve, and a raw one at that too.
    :D

     

    XX, take a deep breath and read what I said again. I agree with you, Somalia =/= Somaliweyn. So, by conceding for Somaliweyn instead of Somalia you save face. Capiche?

     

    Oodka, if the butler earns a better wage in Nairobi than in Mogadishu, than can you really blame him for his choice of employment?

     

    Wadani, I wouldn't mind joining Somalia today but the reality on the ground dictates otherwise. The Kenyans aren't willing to let go and the populace will only join once Somalia can offer the services they currently receive, no matter how small. As for Somaliland, economically today it is no better than Somalia. The S/land population won't suffer a drop in quality of life if they join Somalia unlike NEP. To put it simply, you guys are further up the road to Somaliweyn than us and will reach the destination sooner. That doesn't mean we're not coming, we're merely behind you. Capiche?

     

    The Caravan has been upgraded into a ferry and is waiting.
    :D
    :D

    I agree. As the Xamaris say, canjeero sidi ay isakorfuusha yaa loo kalaqaada

     

    Remember Kenyatta's famous quip when NFD wanted to secede; he said "you can pack your camels and go but am not giving up an inch of Kenyan soil".

  3. Posted

    Carafaat;909904 wrote:
    Loool@Kikuyu favourite butler.

     

    In all seriousnesd why does Haatu and co belief so much in Kenya? Rather fight for the indelpedence of NFD or Somaliweyn?

    Isn't it a case of putting the cart before the horse? Why fight for NFD and Kililka5 if the original 2 cannot even be brought together? Isn't it worth start with the original 2 first, which in management terms would be termed "a low hanging fruit"?

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    Xaaji Xunjuf;909891 wrote:
    Union should be beneficial for both sides geopolitical economically security this seems to be not the case union with Somalia was given a chance 30 years it failed miserably why repeat the same mistake all over again makes no sense. Why Unite with a poor country when you can unite with a strong state as that of Ukraine with a gdp of $344.727 billion dollars, if we talking about unity. I don't think when we talk about unity religion plays a major role Turkey wants to be part of the EU Morocco wants to cooperate with the EU in one of their trade unions. Somalilanders in the 50s were maybe dumb and naive thinking Unity with Somalia would benefit them the old generation feels ashamed because its their fault that Somaliland is fighting to secure dejure recognition in 2013. While they had the chance 52 to years ago real easy. But some how think it was a lesson for the people of Somaliland never trust some one blindly. They put Pan Somalism before their own interest Djibouti didn't and i swear by god if the people of O'gaden region were given the chance to be free of Ethiopia they would never join with Somalia. But that doesnt mean Somalilanders are disliking people of Somalia, it just means ino kala sooca geela:D

    So why did West Germany unite with East Germany if your logic is to be followed? One could argue there was nothing in it for the West Germans, if anything they has to subsidize the East for a very long time, and I believe they still do...

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    Oodweyne;909562 wrote:
    This is what is known in certain quarters a trail balloon send up to see whether the public could be conditions to accept a diminished outcome from the said talks with somalia.

     

    In other words, you do this sort of stuff in advance of a likely concession you know you will have to make in the negotiation table.

     

    All in all, it is non-starter for Somaliland, despite whatever the some elites connected to the current government may whisper to the ears of a passing journalist. But we shall see.

    I agree with your analysis; looks like a canary in a mine...

  10. Posted

    Xaaji Xunjuf;909421 wrote:
    To speak Somali to have a Islamic heritage to have Xeer Somali cultural folklore dances , my sort of Somali dish is nice hilib geel poetry songs

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    Lol, the guy on the right looks like Daleeys in this video:

  11. Posted

    Blackflash;909281 wrote:
    I think Somalis may have been on the cusp of unification when the Europeans arrived. There seemed to be an expansion in the size and number of sultanates and self proclaimed kingdoms in the 18th and 19th centuries.

    Are you saying like the Parisians subsumed all discordant strands among the Franks that one of the Sultanates: **********, ********, Awdal, etc would naturally have absorbed the others into a pan-Somali identity but with a decidedly Parisian flavour (in our case one of the sultanate's mores and outlooks of life, love and liberty)?

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    Am not asking these question as a frivolous pass-time. Every time I say "I am Somali" folks say, what does that mean? What does it mean to be Somali? Some cheekily go on and say "you don't have anything authentic, your food is a mishmash of Italian, Arab and Indian cuisine; your clothing is, well two loin clothes borrowed from India" and so on...

     

    Contrast that with Amhara; authentic food, dress, ancient script, etc...

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    Wadani;909279 wrote:
    Xaaji ur right, Soomaalinimo need not be intertwined with politics. I feel the same brotherhood with Somalis from all the 5 somali inhabited regions of the horn, despite the differnces in politcs and borders.

     

    Thats y i never understood y a lot of somalis like to call Somalilanders 'soomaalidiid's', as if our politcal divorce with Somalia removes our ethnicity and soomaali heritage.

    So Somalinimo as cultural and kinship ties, sense of belonging?

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    Xaaji Xunjuf;909277 wrote:
    I just finished reading the article the guy went on and on about foreign interference's which might be the case , but the notion of Somalinimo and how he applies it as a solution is far from the truth. The author describes Imam Ahmed Ibrahim Al ghazi struggle as one the Somalis were defending Somalinimo against the Ethiopian, which is not true. Imam Ahmed and the conquest of the Abyssinians was strictly an Islamic Jihaad had little to do with Somalinimo.juqatiluna fi sabililaah. The Imam was not fighting for Somali galbeed at that time the Somalis haven't even fully moved in those area's. Allthough the vast majority of the Imams army were Somalis, but there were also afar Muslims Muslim Shewians Arabs hararians Gurage Muslims and even Turks. There was never a Political Somalism struggle or a Somali empire it was mere a experiment in the early 60s and mid 70s. Somalinimo if you ask me has little to do with Politics more with culture and traditions songs poetry. So people need to really redefine what they mean when they say Somalinimo.

    So for you Xaaji Somalinimo is a set of cultural values? Which ones are these?

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    Wadani;909276 wrote:
    Can't say im surprised. I know there are penty of nonbelievers within the somali community who choose to continue living as 'Muslims' just to avoid the inevitable consequences of coming out with their gaalnimo.

     

    Too bad for them though, cuz their living a lie in this world, and will have no share in the afterlife.

    So for you Somalinimo, in a mathematical equation, is a function of Islam among other variables? Which other variables are there? Chivalry? Hospitality to guests?

     

    In Cag-dheer areas, giving your newly wed wife a thorough beating would be considered part of ragganimo and somalinimo...

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    Blackflash;909261 wrote:
    Not really. There are plenty of irreligous Somalis around. I can count 5 amongst my first cousins alone. Also, we're not an ethno-religous group so that can't be it, unless Oromo Muslims are considered to be our kin.

    You raise a very important point here: does Somalinimo subsume Muslim religious observance? Of course there are Somali Christians, atheists and agnostics - would they be considered to exhibit the values of Somalinimo, whatever those values are or would they be considered outside the fold?

  17. Posted

    Blackflash;909274 wrote:
    Pretty much. Although they choose to not tell others about their disbelief, they've said things in my presence that they wouldn't say in front of Muslims.

    There is a difference between faasiq (sinner, which many of us are - let the non-sinners throw the first stone) and outright disbelief ala Ayaan Hirsi Ali (Magan). Sad that her father was part of the first Somali National language Commission....

  18. Posted

    Xaaji Xunjuf;909181 wrote:
    Somalinimo means for me to give a Somali lady with lots grocery a lift

    In strategic management, it is important to define what something is and equally important to define what something IS NOT. Giving a Somali lady with groceries a lift would be considered basic humanity, no?

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    Jacpher;909247 wrote:
    I didn't read the piece but I think Somalinimo ain't as significant to me as wadaninimo. We need a strong wadaniyad to see Somalinimo.

     

    I can say we lack wadaninimo, for the most part.

    I hear you but in the case of Somalis, ethnic/cultural nationalism and nationalism/wadaninimo are very close since the Somali peninsula is mostly inhabited by Somalis. I am not discounting non-ethnic groups that may or may not identify themselves as Somali by centuries of acculturation, but it is a simple fact of demographics that ethnic Somalis make up most of the numbers. As such, ethnic nationalism could easily be the nucleus for wadaninimo, although there is the danger of it being viewed as exclusivist from the beginning....But then what does wadaninimo mean in the context of Somalia, what holds the maay speakers, the Bantu, Banaadiri, Somali and others together?

     

    What is that magic glue?

  25. Posted

    Wadani;908680 wrote:
    This is true Reeyo, but I do believe that love is definitely over rated. The only people who will love you unconditionaly and remain forever loyal to u are your family members and the rare gem of a friend. Love is a fickle thing, that waxes and wanes and is subject to so much volitilty. Years of co-existence, sacrifices and shared experiences can be thrown away in minutes when lovers clash. Also, the conditionality of the love given by a mate is a turn off to me. Lots of girls will want you when you have your money, looks and status...but what happens when u lose one or more of these things???

    Wadani you have a good story here; why don't you keep going?