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One small step at a time till gradually the nation is strong enough to assert itself regionally. We are at the lowest point in our history, and shall need to trot slowly to rise up from the ashes.
We are in no position to do much except advocate, lobby through organisations like the Arab League, and through legal pressure to slow Habasha's grand plan down till we could challenge them.
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41 minutes ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:Yes maybe ur not ,u can dissagree with Somaliland independence and that is fine and u can also oppose colonial bounderies. But i hate the Hypocracy of Some Somalis who say they oppose Somaliland based on Clan and colonial bounderies .And then call the Somalis in NFD and Somali galbeed Ethiopians Kenyans respectfully. I mean you have to be consistent in here. Manay ahayn. And whole hearlty support the Bounderies between Ethiopia and Somalia and Somalia and Kenya.
But opppose Somaliland bounderies , Because it doesnt fit them well in their clan psycie . Or they just want to undermine Somaliland .
I have heard So many times that Koonfurians use the Colonial argument against Somaliland , with a stick laakin qabyalaad iyo qudhun ba ku hoos jira. Its not sincere. I have absolutely nothing against genuine Somaliweynist.
Who believe that our destiny is intertwined. Absolutly not dadkaas waaan so dhaweyaa anigu. Me my self believe in such a concept Maybe through different agreeements maybe it can be achieved, but not in our life but maybe in the life time of my grand childeren inshallah.
You really are a sick puppy. Let me say it one final time in the hope it may sink in your thick skull: Somalis in Somali Galbeed and NFD are under colony to this date. Their liberty is a MUST, and the only way to realise that is by keeping the rest of Somali lands together, and not further divide them up, which is what you advocate for, and all on the grounds of colonial legacy.
Now, go and find a dungeon to hide whilst we have mature conversation about how best defend the nation, the free Somali territories, from marauding Habasha, who are hell-bent on having it under their occupation. The last things we want is waste energy on your twisted, secessionist mind.
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12 minutes ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:illyria odayashaan Che and MMA and arafaat i know them for decades we agree with allot of things and some times we dissagree and there is nothing wrong with that it is healthy to dissagree really .
How ever if u care for the Somali peninsula as u claim there is no need to antagonize an entire region of this same Somali peninsula. Just because u dont agree with some of their politics of this republic or maybe dislike their Clan could also be true. Because ur last statement said that u want to talk about the interest of the Somali peninsula which is fine and then u said u dont care for borders and the colonial legacy. That last sentence didnt sit well.
All u had to say was i care for the Somali peninsula from Djibouti to Garisa. Instead of mentioning borders and colonial legacy
Ileen anagu ingriis iyo fransiis iyo talyaani ma nihin eh.
Now admit ur comment was out of place and we can move on
Please go away. I do not recognise colonial borders and/or division of Somali lands, that is the point you seem to be struggling with. Borders had only been created to weaken, divide and rule. Somali history had not started with the arrival of European vagabonds. You seem to embrace that. I detest Europeans and their legacy, and abhor even more anyone who promotes it.
Where all else fails, resort to the age old gambit 'you do not like my clan', as if I care about any clan.
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29 minutes ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said:Widaay, Xunjuf of old haddaa arki lahayd wuxuu qori jiray...
Hadda wuuba soo dibcay oo qof waxaabo macquul ah qoro waaye. I guess that has to eo wirh what happened in Sool.
Secessionists are very emotional qiiro badan, marka kool koolis jecelyihiin ee if it helps keeping our seas and land in tight, u kool kooli, glove treatment and all. Some are all too extremists and hopelessly gone, I know - kuwaas ka samir waaye laakiin kuwa xoogahoo dibicsan ha sii fogeyn.
Do you really think he is one of the 'kuwa xoogahoo dibicsan'?
20 minutes ago, Che -Guevara said:I doubt he wants his people to live in Oromo-led Ethiopia.
His deeds speak otherwise, and is a threat to all Somalis. Stop entertaining and encouraging him!
@Game Changer is more rational than him.
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5 hours ago, Illyria said:When the sovereignty and survival of the Somali people, irrespective of the region, is at stake, the Somali cause takes priority. For once in your sodding existence, leave the colonial legacy and borders to aside, and think as a legitimate son of Somali. Are you able to compartmentalise? I do not give a toss about local polities or politicking. Are you able to do that?
This was what I wrote, and I was not even thinking or talking about SL, but the Somali peninsula. Do you know the difference?
3 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:As long as u keep calling Somaliland a country of Millions of people a colonial legacy ur far from the truth. As if Somalia isnt a colonial creation who do u think made borders between Somalia and kenya and Somalia and Ethiopia. Do u think siyad barre made them or xaawo taako made them.
I have got no patience for irrational twats.
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You are so bloody brain dead, you can not even read a simple sentence. Could you do us all a favour, and f@ck off back to the secessionist underground you have been squatting since Gooja Cadde, you uncouth arse.
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1 hour ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:What would u rather half a respected Somaliland sovreign recognised Somaliland . Or a Somaliland under Ethiopia colonization or under the hegonomy of ethiopia
When the sovereignty and survival of the Somali people, irrespective of the region, is at stake, the Somali cause takes priority. For once in your sodding existence, leave the colonial legacy and borders to aside, and think as a legitimate son of Somali. Are you able to compartmentalise? I do not give a toss about local polities or politicking. Are you able to do that?
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5 hours ago, Arafaat said:Reasons to Object to the proposed Ethiopia-Somaliland MoU
10 January 2024
Absent the MoU, we have relied on the initial brief provided by President Bihi and the subsequent public statements from Ethiopian officials to piece together key elements of the deal. Bottom line is that this MoU is not good for Somaliland in a myriad of ways.
Below are some of the key concerns related to MoU:
1. The MoU has yet to be shared and there have been mixed signals from both Somaliland and Ethiopian officials on the scope and location of the Ethiopian investments – Is it a port deal? Naval base? Is it providing 20kms on the coast? Where exactly – Loyado/Lugaya/Bulahar? Or is it a land bridge connecting Ethiopia to the sea? What are the payment terms and how much?
2. Ethiopia’s historic claims and recent public statements from Abiy and Ethiopian Ministry of Foreign Affairs indicate an intent to obtain “permanent and reliable” access to the sea for the landlocked country. Therefore, the plans for a naval base, commercial port, and land bridge all should elicit concern that the endgame for Ethiopia may be to redraw the map of Somaliland. One such possible outcome is the map below in which Ethiopia is able to obtain a 20km wide land bridge to the Gulf of Aden:
There is a high risk of annexation of land by Ethiopia, as a powerful and much larger neighboring country would never give up military strategic assets and land, and if relations deteriorate would likely choose for annexation, as per example of the Ukrainian region of Crimea annexed by Russia.
3. There should be serious doubts about Ethiopia’s ability to honor any potential payment terms given the fact that the country only just last month (Dec 2023) failed to make a $31 million bond payment. The debt default underscores the Ethiopia's severe financial challenges and explains why the initial payments terms include shares in Ethiopia’s airline and telecom sector or provision of electricity in lieu of cash.
4. The practice of leasing coastal areas to foreign military has not proven to boost overall economic activity in the host country. Djibouti has one of the highest extreme poverty and income inequality rates in the world despite earning hundreds of millions in annual rents from foreign bases on its territory. https://databankfiles.worldbank.org/public/ddpext_download/poverty/33EF03BB-9722-4AE2-ABC7-AA2972D68AFE/Global_POVEQ_DJI.pdf
5. Even if there is no formal annexation of land by Ethiopia, the influx of Ethiopians into the 20 kms of territory will change the demographics of Somaliland and provide Ethiopia with de facto control of the land. Somalilanders have already seen a dramatic increase of mostly Oromo people in the country, most as laborers. There are now several generations of Oromos in Somaliland with children who speak fluent Somali. Social media posts from prominent Ethiopians are clear on their goal to rewrite what they consider an historic wrong.
6. Ethiopia has no ability to ensure that Somaliland becomes an internationally recognized country with acceptance into African Union, IGAD, UN, or the new bloc of BRICS. Northern Cyprus is only recognized by Turkey and Transnistria is only recognized by Russia. Both countries are largely isolated and economically and militarily dependent of the larger neighboring country. Somaliland would require financing to largely be acquired from Ethiopia as it would have no access to international financial institutions such as the World Bank and IMF.
7. The construction of a port for Ethiopian commercial port in Lugaya, Loyado or Bulahar would have disastrous effects on the port of Berbera. In addition, the 20 kms area of the coast that will be controlled by Ethiopia will impact Somaliland’s own commercial activities such as fishing.
8. Ethiopian access to the Red Sea jeopardizes regional stability as Djibouti, Somalia and Eritrea would feel existential threats by Ethiopia surrounding them both on coast and hinterland. In addition, the current high stakes conflict in the Red Sea, where multiple foreign navies are jockeying for relevance, could also draw Somaliland into conflict unwillingly.
9. The debate over the MoU has resulted in several Somaliland communities expressing their opposition to the presence of Ethiopian military in the country. Should the MoU move forward without broad-based support, there is a high chance that internal violent conflict may breakout. After the loss at Gojacadde, a return to war would be devastating for a Somaliland.
10. The presence of Ethiopian military in Somaliland will be draw for Al Shabaab to the region, as the extremist group has already made a public statement vowing to fight “foreign invaders”. Ethiopia’s presence in Mogadishu was also what ignited and gave birth to AS and created a breeding ground for extremism.
11. Somaliland will be affected by the complex internal political and economic turmoil in Ethiopia. Somaliland is already economic dependent on trade with Ethiopia, and adding political and security dependency would leave it at the mercy of the whim of whichever Ethiopian regimes comes to power.
Consider the following:
Ethiopian interest in ports:
- Unification of the Horn of Africa
Background:
- The modern Ethiopian Navy was established by Emperor Haile Selassie, with the assistance of the United Kingdom, in 1955 and had its Naval Headquarters in:
- Massawa with presence in:
- Assab
- Dhalak Islands and
- Asmara.- From 1991, its navy started using Yemeni bases.
- Then Jabouti, but by 1996, its navy ceased to exist, but with commercial fleet using Massawa & Assab.
- That also ended after the 1998 war between Ethiopia & Eritrea.
The grand plan:
- The plan, Mr Birhanemeskel said, was to push for the "unification of the Horn of Africa as an economic bloc and the navy is part of that project".
- 11 Ethiopia commercial ships in a "very volatile" Red Sea area where Ethiopia has other economic interests.
- Kenya, Somaliland and Djibouti as possible locations for bases.
The Kenyan option
- Ethiopia agreed a deal with Kenya to facilitate the acquisition of land in the island of Lamu as part of the Lamu Port-South Sudan-Ethiopia-Transport (Lapsset) project, a $24bn (£18bn) transport and infrastructure plan to link the two countries and their neighbours.
- The project was signed in 2012 but has been beset by funding delays and security problems in both countries.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-44369382
Postscript:
The Lamu port project mainly failed for lack of funding. Now how is Ethiopia, which is struggling to pay off interest on loans, and is strapped for cash going to fund construction of a new port?Without even considering the security ramifications, just thinks about the trade and economic implications said port shall have on trade at Jibouti and Berbera.
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2 hours ago, Tallaabo said:You clearly haven't been to Somaliland recently.
The same is true in Baydhaba, Bosaso, and Xamar.
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12 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:Simple and clear explanation.
The rational heads in SL are thinking along those lines, and understand the dangers of Abiy the wannabe emperor. Let us find and promote voices of the rational, and not the online numpties.
2 hours ago, Tallaabo said:I went to Jiggiga last year and I was shocked at how far the city's demographic makeup has shifted in favour of the non-Somalis. Jigging will soon face ethic riots and will be declared as a federal territory just like Diridhabe before it. Then the capital of the Somali state will move again to another small town like Goday closer to our borders. This process of displacing the Somali people from their land will continue unopposed until Ethiopia's ambitions are realised.
I would agree, and observed the same in my last trip to Jigjiga. I was shocked when I attended a graduation event at Jigjiga university.
13 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:Is getting the recognition worthy since it would lead huge influx of Oromo?
Please let us not encourage the sick minds, the likes of XX in a conversation, they are lost causes. Some are now arguing SL should seek to join Ethiopia to shut up the Federal government. I have got family members, just like him, who argue out of spite, and would not blink an eye to sell off the whole of Somalia incl. SL for a day of recognition.
7 hours ago, Arafaat said:This is exactly the point, Ethiopia’d ambition are not investment and access, but control and ownership.
Absolutely. There was an article where Abiy was making the case for Reunification of the Horn. I'll see if I could find it.
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2 hours ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said:Oh, wey ka heystaan sida kuwa Yemen, Suudaan iyo Liibiya. Xasan mararka uu Imaaraadka tagaaye laba jeer asagoo dhaawac muuqdo soo noqday - ishiisa madoow iyo gacantiisa jabsan.
According to sources within the Somali medical field in Dubai, Hassan had a medical operation for brain tumour in Dubai, reason for the long hair, beard, and facial blemishes. The shoulder sling is just a mask.
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Deni receives Presidential and VP candidates at villa Garowe.
https://www.facebook.com/100032105483209/videos/1066261974618314
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On 1/7/2024 at 6:14 PM, Arafaat said:For those interested to learn from another example, of a major and more powerful neighbour leasing military ports and coastal lands, should read about the Kharkiv agreement between Ukrainian and Russia on Crimea Ports and what happened eventually to all of Crimea.
Powerful countries do not just give up coastal areas and military ports, even if they initially agreed to a lease, and if needed they even annex the whole region, as happened with Crimea.
Kharkiv Pact - Wikipedia
EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORGBackground:
Kharkiv Pact of 1997 between Russia and Ukraine whereby Russia would lease naval facilities in Crimea to be extended beyond 2017 until 2042, with an additional five-year renewal option in exchange for a multiyear discounted contract to provide Ukraine with Russian natural gas. It would:
- Enable Russia's Black Sea Fleet to remain in Ukrainian territory.
- In turn, Russia would discount its natural gas at 100$ per thousand cubic metre (1 thousand cubic metre is 219,969.152 gallons) to Ukraine.
About: Kharkiv Pact
DBPEDIA.ORG
The Agreement between Ukraine and Russia on the Black Sea Fleet in Ukraine, widely...Subsequently, Russia:
- Invaded Crimea in 2014,
- Invaded Ukraine in 2022.
- Terminated gas deal raising the price to 385$ per 1 thousand cubic metre.In 1990, Ukraine was the 3rd largest nuclear power in the world before it gave up its nuclear arsenal in 1994 under the Budapest Memorandum in return for a NATO, protection with US, UK and Russia as guarantors.
- It had 5,000 nuclear arms on its soil.
- 10 thermonuclear warheads in underground silos stronger than Hiroshima bomb;
- Only US and Russia had greater nuclear arsenal.And today? Ukraine is pleading for its survival.
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Checkmate, let us see how he wriggles out of this one. It looks like Abiy is quite apt at jumping from one frying pan to another.
If the Prosperity Party government deviates from this stance and recognizes Somaliland as a sovereign state, Ethiopia will be opening the proverbial “Pandora’s Box,” weakening its own legal position of opposing claims of self-determination in its own territory. For instance, if Somalia recognizes “Western Somalia” (one of the historical designations for an independent state in the current Somali region), Kenya recognizes Oromia, or Eritrea extends recognition to Tigray, Ethiopia will not be able to invoke a legal principle it violated impudently.
Calculated Ambiguity: A Sovereign Port, Access to the Sea or a Naval Base? - WardheerNews
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We live in an era known as a 'post-truth' world, where 'alternative facts' replace actual facts, and intuitions carry more weight-
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Official result:
Deni: 45 votes 68%
Guled: 21 votes 32%-
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Off to round # 3. Deni got 40, and Guled 17. It is between the two in round #3, and whomever gets more votes wins.
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Round # 1 results with top 3 going through to round #2
Deni 35
Guled 9
Huruuse 8
Asad 3
Faroole 2
Cawad 4
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4 minutes ago, Che -Guevara said:Adam is NN?
I have no idea. I did hear he is of the old al Itihad camp.
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Some can argue that Abiy must be suffering from some sort of temporary or permanent Amnesia or memory loss to think that he can dominate Somalis that occupy a land area of 1,092,925 km2, 3 times bigger than Oromia who, without a doubt, are the dominant group in East Africa. Has he forgotten that Somalia is not made of a 109 groups of different languages like Ethiopia. Which one these groups are individually comparable to Somalis?
1,090,925 km2 of Somali-Inhabited Land Separates Abiy’s Oromia from the Sea, Not a Strip Piece of Land
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Lately, Abiy Ahmed embarked on uncharted territory of trying to achieve what his predecessors could not achieve. In this... -
So much misinformation and lies, but then again, what else would one expect from secessionist sons of swine.
Not a single one of the real estate assets he mentioned had been sold off or leased. The likes of Mogadishu port and airport are are being managed by Al Bayrak and Favori Turkish companies, and under contracts tendered, and renewed every few years - 5 years if I am not mistaken. Digfeer hospital is being managed by a charity under the Turkish Red Crescent the same way many general hospital in Somalia are supported by MSF, Doctors without Borders etc.Not even DP World deals with Berbera and Bosaso come close to what is being proposed: selling off land to foreign enemy, which already occupies Somali Galbeed.
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Faysal Roble advised Hasan Sh. Will he heed his wise council?
A letter to @HassanSMohamud
Thanks for kicking out the ambassador of Ethiopia who served the fascist regime in Addis. But more is expected from you:1 Stop Ethiopian Airlines flying through any Somali airspace.
2. Stop the Chat importation and cut Addis' source of revenue.3. Mobilize Somalis not to send their remittances through Ethiopia.
4. Find a way to kick out Somalia all illegally and non-Atmis army sent by Ababa.5. Seek help from friendly countries to man your waters along the Red Sea. Many Somalis want you to go farther than what has been done so far.
https://twitter.com/faisalroble19/status/1744076008557256910?s=20
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5 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:I hope it is not Haruse. The man couldn't run his foreign ministry independently.
The race is moving into its final hours, and numbers are shifting as campaign managers are twitching as if suffering from temporary myoclonus. As of now, Deni and Cawad are projected as going through to the final round with Cawad winning. Adam Sheekh-doon is said to be the dark horse.
Somaliland and Ethiopia signs "Historic" MoU on access to Red Sea and Establishment of Naval Base
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Her naivety is shockingly off the wall, as if her brain particles are shagged to smithereens.
Difficult times ahead for the Somali peninsula and its people.