xiinfaniin;947855 wrote: Oodweyne , Caynabo as a district is not SNM exclusive territory, and I stand by that. My claim is more credible than your claim of having a political authority on former British Somaliland territories Don't backpeddle now. Read ur first post where u were listing the deegaans. And no one said Caynabo district is 100% SNM, but the Khaatumo population there is a very small minority settled in the far south east corner of the region.

http://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/120222_OCHASom_Administrative_Map_Sool_Caynabo_A3.pdf Here is a link to the map of Caynabo district. Besides Guumays, which is on the border with Laascaanood district, tell me which other deegaan isnt SNM yaa Xiin? U can't just make wild unsubstantiated claims and then get away with it. What ur doing is akin to me saying Nugaal belong to SNM. Ma ogalaan lahayd?

Classified;947818 wrote: You're breaking Camel Milk Thread's Golden Rules. Where is the Admin when you need him? Because ur lies are being exposed? This is just demographics bro, not qabiil talk, so away with u and ur nonsense.

Oodweyne;947811 wrote: Wadani, My goodness we are dealing with people who doesn't even know that Caynabo both as a district and as a city is a SNM territory through and through since late 1920s. And yet the same people want to detain us with an argument about clannish breakdown of Somaliland territories. It just goes to show that many of their arguements are based on emotions and a nostalgia for the past, and not based on hard reality and facts on the ground.

xiinfaniin;947805 wrote: ^^That is what they teach you in SNM adult schools in Hargeysa, just like they thought you Ceerigaabo is HY exclusive city I didnt say Ceerigaabo is exclusively H.Y. Maxaad beenta ku falaysaa. I said It's dominated by the Gadhwayn, H.Y. There are others, but not in the same numbers nor do they have the same political clout within the city. As for Caynabo district, I suggest u do some online research. the Sacad Yoonis (H.Y) live literally a stones throw away from Xudun and ur tellin me Caynabo district is not dominated by the SNM. SMH.

xiinfaniin;947801 wrote: ^^Caynabo as a district , not a city. I cannot believe you miss such a elementary political arithmetic Yes, and this district is a SNM district.

xiinfaniin;947794 wrote: You are accusing me with ignorance :D If there were non H.Y. mayors in Ceerigaabo i'm not aware. Just bring me proof and i'll admit I was wrong. I'm not dominated by my ego like a lot of people are when engaging in debate.

xiinfaniin;947785 wrote: ^Not true Here are my H-ism political districits Ceerigaabo, Badhan, Laas qoray, Laascaano, Caynabo, Buuhoodle, Xudun, & Taleex Here are the only two we are having a tussle Ceerigaabo ---shared city , so it is understandable that it is missing from my column Laascaano , ---J Siyad and Ararsame sons of mine gave the ball away , but I am still on your heels on this waryaa So stop the waffle Xiin, u just expose ur ignorance when ever u dicuss the demographics of a region u know little about. Caynabo is 100% H.J. deegaan, and Ceerigaabo is dominated by H.Y. There are never non H.Y. mayors in Ceerigaabo.

Oodweyne;947784 wrote: Xiiny, Well, saaxiib, those SNM of old had you on the run in the those old bygone days. And their descendent of today still seemed to have you on the run from the regions you thought there are yours based on some passing fiction call "Political H-ism" So all in all, if I were you I would look down or at least lower my gaze as a token of respect if ever you find yourself in the midst of these SNM folks, lest otherwise they may be tempted to start chasing you around, afresh... :D Ouch!!

Malika;947762 wrote: Hypocrisy is an ugly thing , wuxuu illahi ku cadabiin dona some - winning hearts iyo illiterate masaakiin in the same condescending sentence! Maa iska istagtiid dinac aad rabtiid without trying soo hard at pretending to be neutral/fair or whatever it is your convincing yourself is your stance. I think he'd say the same of the ppl in the tuulooyin of SNM deegaans. It's true that most of our rural and a sizable portion of our city ppl are illiterates.

ElPunto;947008 wrote: ^Wadani - there was no ad hominem - you're commenting on your personal reaction to racism when this article addresses the phenomenon of racism. So 91.7% of the population is native Italian - and they should be 'worried' about keeping their country 'authentic' and 'true to it's unique history and culture' and having 8.3% of the population as foreigners is 'unrestrained multiculturalism' I think your comment about Somalis being racist is bringing itself out ma istiri? I'm not denying that I may be deemed a racist by leftist progressives for my views.

ElPunto;946987 wrote: My goodness talk about confusion. You're confusing racism - a horrible, conceited, arrogant mentality that denigrates and debases other human beings with your reaction to it. You can react as calmly as you like - but if you believe that racism is just fine and dandy- then you are severely lacking in more ways than one. Don't resort to ad hominems just because u disagree. Racism is natural. Fear of and antagonism towards outsiders is biologically hardwired in to human beings. But the socio-cultural developments and cultural interaction among disparate peoples within the last century has mitigated many of it's most nefarious manifestations for the most part, such as slavery, colonization etc. I ofcourse abhor forms of racism where one group is oppressed by another due to colour. But, the form of racism Xabad is talking about makes sense. Doesn't necessarily mean I support it. It's just that I understand if a european wants to keep his country 'authentic' and true to it's unique history and culture, and unrestrained multiculturalism is sometimes an impediment to this aim.

xabad;946975 wrote: well said. i have a contrarian view on this whole debate, i don't think racism is bad, its normal healthy mechanism for societies to keep out foreigners and function harmoniously. who said blacks have to settle in italy and become ministers and officials there, or represent the national team ala balotelli. the whole thing is a multicultural charade and making italians more racist. economic immigrants should never plan on staying indefinitely in host countries. east or west home is best. +1. Only a self-confident man can swallow this pill. I've always felt like this, and that's y racism never bothered me. I was once working at a store and a white lady started calling me a nigger and all sorts of other nonsense. I didn't even get worked up one bit, because I know im not a nigger and that she's conflating my history and current reality with that of others. It's like in those movies where the action star goes to the bar and is called out for a fight by some random bikers/thugs. Notice his reaction...he just calmy tells them he doesnt want any trouble. That's because he's a confident man who has nothing to prove, and knows that the thugs in their ignorance are underestimating who he really is. That's how all Somalis should be when dealing with racism. Just dont let it phase u, because u r SOMALI!!!!!

Alpha Blondy;946966 wrote: italy is a joke but a PC-FREE society. this is to be applauded. This. Blacks are hated everywhere, but PC culture has prevented such blatant discrimination and maltreatment from pouring out into day to day interactions. Instead, in places like Canada, USA and Western Europe, what we have is an implicit and yet very insidious type of racism that manifests itself in the form of institutionalized exclusion and constant micro-aggressions against minorites by the dominant Whites.

But some will cry that it's an HAG army.

Midg@an

ElPunto;946952 wrote: What a sad country - and these folks have always been in line trying to emigrate to other countries. How are Somalis any different. Look at how we view the bantus, the cad cads, the ******* (though ethnic Somalis), the Baajuun, the barawani, the oromo, and those from outside Somalis such as indians and other Africans. Racism is wrong yes, but it isn't a phenomenon or social ill peculiar to Europeans or Middle Easterners as many Somalis and blacks like to make it.

Blackflash;946920 wrote: Paganism refers simply to the traditional religions of any region/ethnic group before the spread of the Abrahamic faiths. I don't know how you've managed to attribute two of the oldest human practices (paganism and symbolism) to Europeans. Like i've said before Somalis, and blacks in general, will give everything a European or Middle Eastern origin whether historically warranted or not. It's as if we don't believe in our ability to create and sustain anything worthy of being mentioned.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;946905 wrote: What is a Soomaali name marka? Sayid Maxamed Cabdulle Xasan? If foreigners write Soomaalis with their version of our names, it doesn't mean the person wasn't Soomaali. Some foreigners until now write Sayid Maxamed Cabdulle Xasan's name as Sayyīd Muhammad `Abd Allāh al-Hasan. So in a few centuries, someone like you will believe he wasn't Soomaali because his name was spelled Sayyid Muhammad Abd Allah al-Hassan. What in a Soomaali name was that asagoo leh waliba. Be careful just following how foreigners spell the Soomaali names. It may mislead you completely. For all we know, Axmed Gurey's full name could have been Axmed Ibraahin Gaas or Axmed Ibraahin Qaasi. +1

Ok....as u were.

SomaliPhilosopher;946709 wrote: No probs safferz. i am sure you realized there are other parts to the program. you know i am realizing the entire Somali history can be learned through Somali poetry everything from the womans plight to the colonial struggle. if i had a say in the future history curriculum of the country I would use poetry and literature to tell the story of the Somali people. The bulk of what comprises the canon of mainstream Somali poetry has been composed by men from a specific region and from specific clans. Unless the poetry and artistic expression of all the regions in all its varied and colloquial forms are given the academic and mainstream attention they r due, Somali poetry cannot serve as a repository for the collective history and lived experiences of the Somali people as a whole.

So what would u wear in the picture and how would your demeonor be? I'd prefer a stern and intimidating look, stern enough to at least scare Ethiopia and Kenya.

Safferz;946424 wrote: Hate me or hate SP? :mad: U dee....but all that's in the past now abti.

Safferz;946421 wrote: Haha the 420 didn't even occur to me as I typed it, are you sure you're not the pothead SP? Aw sorry to hear that. This prank call always gets me: hahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!!!

Actually don't bother, I just realized I hate u...ee sidaa ula soco.