By Nigel Morris, Home Affairs Correspondent 31 October 2003 David Blunkett made a provocative call last night for more Islamic preachers to learn English to help combat the "clash of cultures" suffered by young British Muslims. The Home Secretary argued it was crucial, in the interest of race relations, for teachers and community leaders who shape youngsters' attitudes to help them identify with the country. Mr Blunkett said that 60 per cent of Muslim preachers in France did not speak that country's language and warned Britain should not "go down the same road". Last year he provoked anger when he called for Asian parents to speak English at home to prevent "schizophrenia" between the generations. The Home Secretary returned to a similar theme in the annual Heslington lecture at York University on religion's place in modern society. He said: "It is a worrying trend that young, second-generation British Muslims are more likely than their parents to feel they have to choose between feeling part of the UK and feeling part of their faith - when in fact they should feel part of wider, overlapping communities. "The issue here is identity - whether people identify with the actual world in which they live, or with another world they are taught about, which offers the absolute certainties which day-to-day interaction can never do. We need to join those within faith communities who are trying to resist this tendency, working together to isolate extremism." He said: "Teaching in religious communities whether evangelical, Christian, or Islam, is rarely spoken about, but it is vital. "This is not just a problem for Britain; our European partners are wrestling with the same questions. In France, which has five million Muslims, a real debate is under way. At the moment in France, 60 per cent of Muslim preachers do not speak French. We should be working together with the Muslim community in Britain to ensure we are not going down the same road. "It is crucial those who have this key role in shaping the world view of our young people should be in a position to help them relate to the world in which they live, rather than turning them away from it. "This is absolutely central for the development of the Muslim community itself and for the life chances of young Muslims, but also has a wider impact on social cohesion and race relations." Mr Blunkett insisted that he was not calling on faith groups to become involved in politics. "I simply want all of us to recognise that in an increasingly complex, connected world we all share the challenge to find solutions to our common problems," he said. He praised Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Sikh communities around Britain who have supported local schemes, particularly mosques in Bradford which run creche facilities for all local people, including Jewish residents. * Mr Blunkett accuses Tory peers opposed to the Government's criminal justice reforms, including restricting the right to jury trial, of acting out of cynicism. Writing in the left-wing newspaper Tribune today, he concedes that sections of the flagship Criminal Justice and Sentencing Bill will be defeated over the next three weeks. "Contrary to what the world will be told, this is nothing to do with civil liberties, or Custer's last stand on behalf of jury service, but actually a piece of cynical manipulation of the majority the Lords can muster against the Labour Government." He says that most Tory peers do not have "the first idea" about the reality of life in inner cities or on housing estates. I just cant believe this guy, kibir!

zak that was sum funny lines there but this one just cracked me up! Anything we said 6 months ago is inadmissible in an argument. Infact, all comments become null and void after 7 days.loool Ask for what you want. Let us be clear on this one: Subtle hints do not work! Strong hints do not work! Obvious hints do not work! Just say it! loool

Milan vs Juve this wknd!!!! Two top teams in the Seria A history go head to head, dont know if its sat or sun tho!

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loool kolay wa lagu karbaasha markaad maalaha habaanki socotid, iska caadayso abti!

lol@cidiya jar, did know they fit into wallets mini first aid? ma dadkaa dagaalanta??

good post bro! My diet aint been too good this week, bread and eggs for suxur or weetabix, tuna meyo sandwich, ribena, kitkat and banana for iftar, and bariis or pasta for casho, if i can be bothered to got to fam house! Goin home for the wknd to mainly stuff myself!

very interesting and beneficial post! thanx

ah but how much money is the question?????

still need to get the full membership tho,lol, still a junior/student member, but in a year or 2 ia.

Debit card E top up-t mobile card National Insurance card Driving License Card A piece of paper with my new address written on it, cant seem to remember it yet Internet Banking Card RAC memebership card Work card RICS Card (Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors) Blockbuster Card Petrol Reciepts (get my pay back) and a £5 note!

Lucky i hope that you ur friends and family are all safe and well!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3220619.stm judging by his name, this guy must be a muslim, certainly a nice change to good news!

cheering you from here! GOOD LUCK!

Economists among the nomads take note, for future essays etc! You can buy into the China story Investors see huge potential in the biggest emerging global player By William Kay 25 October 2003 Tim Barclay, a 40-year-old planning manager from Bedford, is an investor who takes his cues from what he sees, rather than what people tell him. So when he noticed that his employer, BOC Gases, was investing in China he decided it would make sense to follow suit. "BOC recognises the long-term growth potential as the Chinese markets open up, so I bought into the Invesco Hong Kong and China fund," he said. Many UK investors have recently converted to what City professionals refer to as "the China story". China has long been derided as a rudimentary economy with an interfering government and ill-managed companies whose accounts bear little examination. That is changing, as is demonstrated by the international clamour for China to upvalue its currency, the renminbi, to curb its exports and suck in more imports. But some investment experts say the Chinese economy is overheating and its companies' share prices may soon be hit by higher interest rates and other restrictions. China has been making an increasing impact on the world as the transition from a planned to a market-led economy has taken shape. The people at the sharp end, running companies always looking for global opportunities, have enthusiastically tuned in to the China story. In August, Mr Barclay's boss, the BOC chief executive Tony Isaac said: "We continue to see growth in the Asian markets where we are particularly well placed to take advantage of the opportunities as they arise." Sir Robert Wilson, chairman of Rio Tinto, among the world's largest mining companies, said: "China's growth, with its heavy emphasis on infrastructure development, has become a major influence in the market for many of our products. China now accounts for 17 per cent of global copper consumption, 16 per cent of aluminium production and nearly 23 per cent of global steel consumption. China's consumption of metal has been growing by more than 10 per cent annually and rapid growth seems likely to continue." China already consumes more copper and steel than the US. As the Chinese economy continues to grow, it is putting pressure on the mining and metals markets to keep up with demand. This is pushing up the prices of raw commodities. And China is starting to hurt other countries, particularly the US. On some estimates, it has caused the loss of 2.8 million US manufacturing jobs since 2000. John Crawford, the Henderson investment group's main Asia watcher, has seen the pace of expansion. He said: "I was there in April, and I was staggered by the changes, especially the emergence of an affluent middle class. In the coastal cities, which have gained most from the economic growth, 5 to 10 per cent of the population has enough money to buy a house and car, and go on foreign holidays. That amounts to 40 to 80 million people who have aspirations and want to spend, and that can only be good." This has not escaped the attention of Sir John Bond, chairman of HSBC, a global bank with roots in Asia. He told his shareholders: "In developing countries like China, we believe we will see a growing demand for all kinds of financial services as it grows its per capita income and new consumer markets emerge." As Mr Crawford pointed out, this means the Chinese economy is being driven by two engines. Until now, exports have led the way, thanks to the country's rock-bottom wages making its goods cheaper than nearly anywhere else. But to that is being added consumer spending. It adds up to an exciting prospect, especially as the UK's low-inflation environment looks as if it might keep the London stock market subdued for the next few years. But the key question for investors is how best to tap into the China story. Fund managers agree there are three basic ways to invest in China: buy its companies' shares direct, buy a fund which invests at least partly in the country, or buy shares in western companies which stand to gain from trading with China. Local companies can be listed on the Shanghai or Hong Kong stock exchanges, but Mr Crawford advises against tangling with those in Shanghai. "It's like a casino," he said. "The standards of accountancy and transparency are not as high as in the West." But the most-established companies are listed in Hong Kong, where they have to conform to international standards and are more likely to have proven management. The Hong Kong-listed Chinese companies tend to be in telecoms, property, ports and oil. Not as exciting as making motorcycles and in-car entertainment systems, perhaps, but probably more reliable. From Shanghai, Nancy Wang, Jupiter Asset Management's China specialist, said: "Historically, the biggest excitement on Hong Kong-listed shares is speculation about allowing domestic Chinese to buy. Many companies have been quietly restructuring for better earnings and balance sheets, which with the strong growth in the Chinese economy means earnings have ballooned as have dividends. And there is speculation about renminbi revaluation." Mark Breeden, who runs Investec's Hong Kong and China fund, said: "It's not going to be a smooth ride. Economic growth is running at 9 per cent a year, several times the UK rate, money supply is growing 25 per cent, a third of all bank loans will not be repaid and property prices in cities such as Shanghai are soaring. It's not sustainable, so we are bound to see higher interest rates. The potential is there, but there will be a crunch, and that will mean volatile share prices." Some experts counsel caution. John Hatherley, head of Global Analysis at M&G, said: "Buying China shares is a game for specialists, and private individuals are best off investing through a fund. But even a China fund is a dangerous game, so better to go into a well-managed Asia Pacific fund invested in Korea, Hong Kong and Taiwan. Or you can invest in blue-chip companies benefiting from the China phenomenon, such as HSBC or Standard Chartered Bank." China shares have risen sharply this year, but the bulls are convinced this is only the start and there is more to come.

i feel for the brother, i can only hope and pray that he gets justice for being an innocent business man in these difficult times for all! ameen!

ELM TREE (NobleMinded) - pleasant shape, tasteful clothes, loudest demands, tends not to forgive mistakes, cheerful, likes to lead but not to obey, honest and faithful partner, likes making decisions for others, noble-minded, generous, good sense of humor, practical. lol, seems accurate enough! this is all a trick, say nice things about ppl and they love it, thats why most of us feel it is a representation of us in real life. But is it? The same things are repeated thru out the trees but are said differently so we all think we are darlings!!!!!

lol@gaad wade! u can say that, if i'm late i'm the Somali Schumacher, if not, i drive like Miss Daisy! Dont think its a good idea to stray from the topic or Shaqsi will get annoyed, but we cant help it can we?

lol, too right, everyday i have problems, gettin home is the worst! i have become this agreessive driver u dont wanna mess with! :mad:

http://www.itisholdings-info.co.uk/ UK taffic info, whereever u are, very usefull when negotiating these chaotic london roads!

http://news.independent.co.uk/ http://www.bbc.co.uk How do u guys change the link text to something else?

lol@MMA Phil Mitchell his name is!

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=457979

lucky, sorry sis, when yr at work u know how it is, i read the title and this following line, "I aLways hear girLs you had better be extra carefuL...." then came to the conclusion of women being careful in ramadan, then refered to fact that gossip must be 'controlled' during this holy month. i better leave it there, for my own good!

"look like they are trying to jump onto the potential grave train at the expense of ordinary somali people"---i agree with you here The guy is not a leader by a stretch, instead of being calm and concise, he worsens the situation by increasing tensions within the coutry. While he and his goons are too busy eating at Ming Sing and Xaraf restuarants and building villas on the outskirts of H Town with the countries money, many ppl have just realised how incompetent Udub realy are. No control in many parts of the country, which is really controlled by Kulmiye, this just could'nt be more clear. Having said that, the ppl arrested are locals who were assigned to protect the school, so this just shows how much he knows about the situation. Jumping the gun and publicly stating that it was this group or that group again further put forward my point that this is NO LEADER!