A kettle to make tea? Well I never :eek: JB, waxaad tahay dhagan aan dhoofin

Afternoon slackers a kettle to make tea, two packets of crisps and a bottle of water Erm, just like any other hotel? Where are the pics?

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Juje, summary in English duqa

I'm glad they've gone down. They won't be taking up all the radio and tv football debates now. Maybe some deserving teams can get some recognition. Fulham have done well and so have Wigan and Spurs. 86 points only 2 losses double over Man Utd and Chelsea scored the most best goal difference but 7 draws at home lost us the title :mad: maybe next year

BUMP Now that JB is back

^Lightweights mate. Lighweights. Not worth a Kilogram!

Originally posted by NGONGE: Norf, A discussion cannot really continue if you keep on rewriting history and attempt to present your own perceptions as fact. The situation today is not that much different than the one two years ago. The opposition are being stubborn and refuse to negotiate. The government is using foreign troops. The Ethiopian monster lurks in the shadows. We all watched this film before, saaxib. Only this time, you seem to have changed your mind about the lead actor! The problem with you, and many that share your new view, is that you want to be right both times. Sorry mate, it can't be done. It is either you were right the first time or you are right now (and regret your previous stance). Politically, I don't hold much hope for Sh. Sharif. I believe him to be the worst ever choice for Somalia and would actually pay money to see Abdullahi Yusuf back. It's a case of trust, you see. I knew the former president has an evil streak and did not mind that because it was out in the open. What you see is what you get, so to speak. This president though, is extremely naive and has been proving this naivety on countless occasions in the past three years. You support him because you think he's a good man (and he may well be that), but you have no concrete proof for this perception you have of him. Well, nothing other than his quiet and reasonable demeanour. Most sensible people would judge a man on his actions though! The actions of this Sheikh have been extremely disappointing thus far and he is yet to do ANYTHING that force one to rethink or extend him the benefit of the doubt. I have no love for Al Shabab either. In fact, I have no love for any Islamic movements. I had years of getting excited about them and believing them to be the salvation for the Islamic world only to get slapped back in the face and discover that they are yet another group that only think about itself and is happy to play with the faith in any way that will lead them to power. However, this is an argument of positions and support. This is one where you (and others) try to badmouth Al Shabab for their actions today when you were supporting them for exactly the same actions yesterday. In fact, and if we look closer at the positions you have, Sheikh Sharif (and you) are not much different than Al Shabab! May Allah never put you or Xiin in charge of any Somalis (I say it with the utmost respect, for your sakes and ours)! LG, Though I would love to pull your hair and twist your nose, I know I can't. Your position has always been consistent. You just love Sh. Hotel. Ps I cannot apologise. The Ugandans killed Somalis. Sh. Hotel is the president of Somalia. Therefore, he shares the guilt. If they had any other president, I would be supporting the TFG. But I never bet on a losing horse, and this horse is useless. Nice footwork saxib. You very conveniently side stepped the FACT that it was the TFG who refused to travel to Khartoum and subsequently went into a speil about things being no different between the ACTIONS (keyword) of the former and new presidents. In addition and just like our resident lightweights you refuse to acknowledge that there is a clear difference and tangeable difference between the Ethiopian occupaying forces who were out to kill Somalis to those who are there to protect the government (AMISOM) and it's key installations. You have for the length of this discussion maintained this simplistic stance knowing full well that there is a very clear difference between the ACTIONS of yesterday's and today's TFG as well as the Ethiopian troops (and their intentions) and AMISOM (and their intentions). You have to-date failed to come up with an argument on how the actions of AS and co are the same today as they were yesterday considering that the Ethiopians are no longer thus making any such justification null and void (I would very interested to here your take on that). You have failed to explain how you feel AMISOM is the same as the Ethiopian forces who forceably entered the country with the aim of killing Muslims whilst AMISOM's mandate is very clear (unless you somehow believe AMISOM's clear UN mandate is the same as the Ethiopian's internal one - FACTS adeer FACTS). To the lighweights, stay in your other threads posting one liners.

Lazy, preach dear, preach! Ngonge, Timetable June 06 - UIC defeat warlords July 06 - Ethiopian troops enter Somalia July 06 - Jowhar overtaken 2006 (not sure when) - Yeey and TFG refuse to attend talks in Sudan. UIC attend. Whatever the pre-conditions stated from both sides, it was Yeey refused to meet! The talks collapsed and the Ethios were given a licence to build towards a full scale invasion whilst stationed in Bay****. The 7 day ultimatum came towards the end of 2006 long after the Khartoum talks collapsed (what did you expect them to do anyway? say nothing?). As for the Sharif using Ugandans etc, it will depend on whether or not you agree with the above (they are linked). Zaylaci, stop your peripheral rabbit punches and jump in saxib. Don't worry I won't be offended.

^Save it saxib. I'm talking to Ngonge and Kash here.

Ngonge, Are you saying AY did not refuse to travel to Khartoum for talks with the UIC? Also, do you realise the Ethios confirmed their presence in Somalia at the time (the UIC was telling the truth)? I think my memory is better than yours saxib If you say Al Shabab should 'obey' their ruler then they (and you) should have obeyd Abdullahi Yusuf. Faith is not a supermarket where you pick and choose the parts you want to buy, ninyo. 1. Yeey did wrong (refuse to talk and bring Ethios to kill muslims). 2. One should not obey wrong-doing ruler. 3. Resistance justified. 4. Ethios leave 5. Sharif is made prez 6. Sharif is ready and willing for talks 7. AS and co are not Get it?

A crime that occurred in Dubai with convictions in Cairo :confused: ,,, http://news.bbc.co.u k/2/hi/middle_east/8 060810.stm

^We need Africans saxib. Runners.

Liqaye, thanks. One shall ponder.

Ngonge, Is it me or are you deliberately avoiding addressing the different situations under Yeey’s TFG and Sharif’s. Heck do you even see that there is a difference between Dec 06 and May 09? Looking at things in simplistic terms is not your style saxib so why now? On top that you’re not aware that it was Yeey who refused to talk with the UIC and not vise versa! Yeey Situation 1. Once upon a time there was an organisation called the UIC. They rooted the warlords and gained control over swaths of the south. For 6 whole months there was peace. 2. Then, and prior to any discussions taking place between the TFG and the UIC, thousands of Ethiopian soldiers crossed over into Somalia under the pretext that they were simply training the TFG army and there were only 200 of them. 3. The talks between the TFG and the UIC started with no success whatsoever after, and get this, Yeey had agreed to a broad based government which included UIC members before flying to Addis. The rest is history as they say. The talks collapsed because of the TFG and not because of the UIC. 4. Yeey and the TFG refusing the path of peace and choosing to remove the UIC with the help of Ethiopian soldiers is, in my humble opinion, islamically incorrect. The opportunity for peace was not embraced and he (Yeey) as a leader was now fighting his brethren with the help of gaalo. Looting and raping in the process. This is why I supported the residence who later emerged as the AS and were victorious. Did I hate Yeey? Of course I did. Sharif situation 1. After the prolonged presence of Ethiopian soldiers and the situation deteriorating, the same man who was the head of the UIC lead the peace and helped initiate the withdrawal of the Ethiopian troops. 2. He later became president and promised to try and reconcile all. He introduced and passed through parliament Sharia Law to try and sway some sort favour from AS and co. 3. AMISOM are his protectors. AMISOM are not out killing AS and co. Actions of AMISOM against the Somali people are known and yes they should leave. However, the situation on the ground would be no different. AS would still attack the govn’t. 4. Having been in power for 3 or 4 months Sharif has not been given the chance. The same people who are today shouting and refusing to talk to the government were previously in discussion with Yeey. Refer back to what I wrote to Kash about the rights and wrongs of opposing a government/ruler. The TFG was wrong under Yeey whilst AS are wrong today. Do I like the Sharif? Of course I do. One needs to recognise the difference to make such a stance and I say well done for those who have.

Faheema, i know Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ He's five, mate. He played in every position. Two good feet but can't head the ball at all. He's a dirty player too. So did they win? Nuune, Emirates way qaaligaroodey'e maxaa jira?

Ngonge, I've been waiting for that. Surprised it has taken you so long Will response after a cuppa,,,,,, ps you keep refering to Kash's consistency without giving your opinion on whether or not his position is indeed correct. See waaye duqa?

^How was it then? Did you pick up the Indglish? Are you moving your head from side to side when answering yes? Morning

^The park is empty during the week but the kids can't go in the day time because they're at school. Weekends are better even though there will be alot people there. I went in Jan once and didn't really enjoy it.

^School, college and Uni is off. Plus everyone takes their break in the summer.

Reading numerous nonesense threads posted by our resident lightweights is getting tiring. Where are the heavyweights? Lets get your opinions boys and girls. Question 1: Have the events of the past few weeks made it impossible for the government to bring about a peaceful resolution to the Somalia situation?

The argument that the government is being imposed on the people by foreign powers is rather lame. Granted Somalia has others meddling in it’s affairs but those who have been entrusted with over-seeing the transition process after an invasion and occupation should be given the chance to govern. AS flatly refused to take part in any of the peace talks in Djibouti thus making the call that they represent the people a redundant one. The support shown to the legitimate new president when elected was there for all to see. In addition, prior to the Ethiopian invasion, weren't the very same individuals in talks with the then government of Cabdillahi Yusuf? Talks were being held in Karthoum we all remember now. The UIC stated that they wanted to work with the TFG. The faces of the TFG might have changed but it still operates under the same charter. Did we forget this little fact cyber mujahidow? What has changed? Oh, AS today have more guns and there are no Ethios around (aar meesha aan qabsano). This is no jihad by any means. Now, lets have a look at the Transitional Federal Charter. The same charter that stipulates the following: ARTICLE 2 THE TERRITORY OF SOMALIA. 1. The Territorial Integrity and Sovereignty of the Somali Republic shall be inviolable and indivisible. 2. The territorial sovereignty of the Somali Republic shall extend to the land, the islands, territorial sea, the subsoil, the air space and the continental shelf. 3. The Somali Republic shall have the following boundaries. (a) North; Gulf of Aden. (b) North West; Djibouti. © West; Ethiopia. (d) South south-west; Kenya. (e) East; Indian Ocean. and ARTICLE 8 RELIGION. 1. Islam shall be the religion of the Somali Republic. 2. The Islamic Sharia shall be the basic source for national legislation The government have now formally stated and ratified that Shariah Law will be Somalia's governing law and are working towards bringing the relevant qualified people into the necessary positions. I shall leave you with the following: Volume 9, Book 89, Number 257: Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said, "If somebody sees his Muslim ruler doing something he disapproves of, he should be patient, for whoever becomes separate from the Muslim group even for a span and then dies, he will die as those who died in the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance (as rebellious sinners). (See Hadith No. 176 and 177) Volume 9, Book 89, Number 258: Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "A Muslim has to listen to and obey (the order of his ruler) whether he likes it or not, as long as his orders involve not one in disobedience (to Allah), but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed one should not listen to it or obey it. (See Hadith No. 203, Vol. 4) Volume 9, Book 89, Number 259: Narrated 'Ali: The Prophet sent an army unit (for some campaign) and appointed a man from the Ansar as its commander and ordered them (the soldiers) to obey him. (During the campaign) he became angry with them and said, "Didn't the Prophet order you to obey me?" They said, "Yes." He said, "I order you to collect wood and make a fire and then throw yourselves into it." So they collected wood and made a fire, but when they were about to throw themselves into, it they started looking at each other, and some of them said, "We followed the Prophet to escape from the fire. How should we enter it now?" So while they were in that state, the fire extinguished and their commander's anger abated. The event was mentioned to the Prophet and he said, "If they had entered it (the fire) they would never have come out of it, for obedience is required only in what is good." (See Hadith No. 629. Vol. 5) Saxix Bukhari Obedience to the government who have stated their desire to reconcile Somalia through peaceful means is an OBLIGATION as, I and many others, believe such obedience is NOT contrary to Islam whereas disobedience of the same IS purely because of the reasons given for opposition and not giving the government the chance to implement their desired measures nor have they opporessed the people (me no scholar by the way). Ma ila socotaa mujaahidow? I will next address the AMISOM issue.

I guess the week is over. Good stuff Ng (still think your pics could have been better though ).

Originally posted by NGONGE: Off to belittle the heir to my throne in his first ever school football game! Laterz. What position did he play and did they win?

1 piece of Chicken 1 chicken burger Large Chips Tub of Coleslaw (sp) 1 Bread roll 7up That 3 hours ago and I'm hungry now.