Originally posted by NGONGE: Norf, maybe you are right about the education but that will bring us to the educators (which in turn will take us back to the mullahs). Wax fahan. I did say 'wholesale' changes. Wax fahan.

I'm watching it now. It will be online as well.

What is the point posting this if you're not prepared to discuss it Che?

^Everything you said there makes sense saxib but none of it detracts from there being a lack of a proper Islamic education through infant and secondary school ages. The questions on suicide bombings women’s issues etc can be tackled early on. If one understands why at a young age then he/she will ‘probably’ not be ‘as’ influenced by the xaraam brigade and the media in their adolescent/adult years. All I’m saying is that a properly structured and sincere Islamic education will set him/her in good stead. I doubt this new trend will continue or that there would be as much confusion and disillusionment (relatively) if that happens. What do you propose?

http://thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100713/SPORT/707129850/1004 D: Defensive Dunga’s Demise Dunga, the Brazil coach, was cast as a pariah by his nation’s media for his willingness to disregard the Selecao’s tradition of playing beautiful football. Opting instead for defence-oriented tactics, Dunga approached the tournament having lost just four times in 55 games, but when his side crashed out to Holland in the quarter-finals, the former World Cup-winning captain was promptly dismissed. E: El Diego Diego Maradona dominated the 1986 World Cup and this summer he, once more, revelled in the global limelight. The charismatic Argentina coach’s press conferences were constantly great value as he refused to bite his tongue slammed, among others, Pele and Michel Platini. When La Albicelestes were winning “El Diego” was a delight to watch and when they were eliminated, he appeared emotionally ruined as he spoke of his heartbreak.

^Thats terrible Val. Khayr bay noqon doonta IA Is this due to the tories getting in?

^I disagree. If the problem is an individual's confusion by what is being said by mullah surwaal gaabsaday and today's zenophobic media, then it is obvious there existed a lack of understanding in the first place. This is often due to no understanding given at malcaamad stage (if they did attend it anyway).

^How much do they charge these days for the sports package?

^Good. Bring Warnock back

Actually, La Liga should be very interesting this year and the NBA will be even more so. Bal u yara kaadi

^Wholesale changes and integration of malcaama/madrasa/dugsi studies on the weekends. At the moment we all know its done in a haphazard way and kids just memorise quran without anything in the way of understanding. A whole new network of teachers and assitants needs to be set up. It should be taken seriously by the Muslim community. More seriously than normal schooling. 1. Dugsi/Malcaamad on weekends should be more than just lectures and Quran recitations. 2. Structured course work should be given out on a weekly basis. From basics to intermediate to advanced etc 3. Teachers should be better qualified both Islamically, linguistically and culturally (he/she should be aware of the culture the kids are growing up in and have adequate teaching skills to combat any clashes). A good early understanding is the key.

I'm in denial the WC is over and watch a replay of a game evey night Ngonge, want to buy an AJ Sports Card?

Wake me up a day before the big kick off.

Can't believe its over

^ma Robbie?

Forget UK and USA. He should do a report on Somalis in the khaliij :cool: I knew the programme was coming on but completely forgot. I did see another programme on Somalis though. It was Ross Kemp's In Search of Pirates

Afternoon all My body clock is still on UK time. Yawn

Geel Jire, Sincere brotherly advice. Look at AS, their cause and actions strictly from an Islamic perpective. Whether or not these bombing were as a consequence of what is going on in Somalia is irrelevant saxib. Islam does not condone their actions and you shouldn't condone them either (leave everything else aside).

Come on Bob. If Arsenal had Masch they would have won the title last season.

Too many of these.........

I went into a few shops looking for a new suit. I was teated like a king. I have been in the same shops wearing khaki shorts and t shirts. They would just huff at me

Ngonge, how was Sat?

^Fair enough

Mullahs? What Mullahs? I doubt she has paid attention to what Mullahs have said / say. It’s a case of getting bogged down in studies and falsely believing her own intelligence is enough to get her through life. In other words madaxeedaa ka weenaadey.

I went and stood in a dark corner and watched my friends dance with fat old white ladies. These things happen. People become intelligent enough to leave their religion but not intelligent enough to try and understand it FIRST. Funny thing is she wouldn't write a conclusion without doing her research if it was an essay/assignment. Somehow, she thinks that is not required on this occasion. Adunyo!