Cabdulaahi Saciid Samatar needed to go. He was a big fialure. Will see how Ina Axmed Kheyr fares.

^^Where is that happening? Your misunderstaning with Maadeey, that is. I wanna watch

^^you have been outran NGONGE, lagaa dheeree What was your job ?

^^Look the man above you, NGONGE. He has more passion than I do for this issue. Remember per your motto, Qabiil is everything

Emperorow aan kula taliyyo ee internet iska xir Allaha kuu barakeeyyo

Somalidu wax walba waa ka murmayyaan

yes it is. Since Juxa took the helm of Education Dept. in Puntland, Education has made into Puntland's top priorities

Castro, we are on the 9th page welina meeshii aan ka bilownay baan maraynaa, why do you think that is awoowe? NGONGE, waxaan macno badan lahayn baad ku nuux-nuuxsanaysaa maantoo dhan that is what i meant shallow

Originally posted by Abtigiis & Tusbax: quote:Originally posted by xiinfaniin: NGONGE, waa markii ugu horreysay aan ku arko adoo caadhifadi ku hayso Ngonge is my friend. Laakin waa born-again SL waagaan ku idhi ma dhaweyne ma wax baad iga qori. I think it is not the first time Ngonge oo caadiifad wado aynu argano. That he does it in a gentle and subtle way doesn't mean, he hasn't shown it before! Without a doubt NGONGE is the sharpest knife in the secessionist drawer. But in this thread he is being shallow in his analysis.

NGONGE, waa markii ugu horreysay aan ku arko adoo caadhifadi ku hayso War Samatar anigu qaaraan uma aruurin ninyahow. It was a kaftan waryee And dont be deluded adeer for Somaliland is not going anywhere. Blanket cafis is better approach than this selective suit.

^^This sue-if-you-can attitude depicts a literalist Castro that does not exist in reality. Don’t you think there are other considerations i.e. limitations of legal statues, lack of consensus of the alleged criminality of the man, and the potential of further divisions among community… What is holding Ducaysane back? Minneapolis is very progressive city, and Somalis that reside in it seem to have become enlightened about the fundamentals of justice and fairness . The criminals among us reached a critical mass that arbitrary legal action against one or two may do more harm than good awoowe. Cafis iyo masaamax bay ku dhammaanaysaa

^^It's very simple really Ha la is cafiyyo, ama dadkoo dhan ha la maxkamadeeyyo edit: Dacwada odoga xaggee ka taagantahay adigu Abwaan ?

^^You think so. Somali baadan aqoon awoowe

More direct funds is what Somalia needs

^^Shaah baan maalin walba la cabbaa, raggii rag ahaa awoowe Gabadha ina Samatar qaaraankeeda wax ma ka bixinaysa ?

Africa Somalia can handle more funds directly: AU 25 Feb 25, 2010 - 9:05:28 AM By Abdiaziz Hassan NAIROBI (Reuters) - Somalia has made progress restoring state institutions and accountability and its administration can now handle more funds directly, the African Union's deputy head of mission to Somalia said. For nearly two decades, the Horn of Africa nation has had no functional central government and its transitional administration controls only sections of the capital Mogadishu. Wafula Wamunyinyi, the deputy special representative for the AU Commission for Somalia, said the government received inadequate direct funding, and that there were still some impediments to them getting more aid. "They were working hard in re-establishing state institutions, coordination and implementation of the plans; they are making progress ... and taking care of the accountability system," he told Reuters in an interview on Wednesday. "They are now making progress, working some specific budgets for the first time, and that kind of thing shows there is a direction ... Then, donors will release the funds to them eventually." Wamunyinyi said the mission had received more than half the $213 million donors have pledged to help restore Somalia's security and public services. International donors agreed last April to provide the money to help Somalia's transitional government and the 5,000 AU troops providing security to the government. "I think over $120 million ... has been directed to trust funds, and some progress has been made on that," Wamunyinyi said, speaking in his office in the Kenyan capital. "The pledges have been flowing until now, I am sure we have received most of the funds." Rebels fighting the transitional government frequently attack the AU troops, who have been able to do little more than protect the city's air and sea ports, its presidential palace and a few strategic blocks in between. Wamunyinyi said more troops from Uganda and Burundi were waiting to be airlifted to bolster their numbers. "These two countries will send an additional battalion each. As soon as the logistical arrangements are done, they will move in," he said. He said the AU's rules of engagement were adequate, and the mission could help the government hold the capital if it decided to push away the rebels. "We are not there to fight on behalf of Somalis. If they keep away the insurgents, that would be very good idea, a good step in the right direction." Source: Reuters

Maamulka Puntland oo la sheegay in la Taageerayo Kor u qaadista Tayada Waxbarashada Khamiis 25, Feb 2010 (HOL)Madaxda Wasaarada Waxbarashada ee Puntland iyo hayado Waxbarashada Qaabilsan oo shalay Galinkii danbe kulan ku qaatay magaalada Garowe ayaa ka wada hadlay Halka ay marayaan hawlaha waxbarasho ee Puntland. Waxaa kulankaasi Maamulka u Matalayay wasiirka Waxbarashada Puntland C/Faarax Juxa ,Waxaana inta badan ay isla soo qaadeen dhaliilo ka jira Puntland oo ku aadan dhanka Waxbarashada. Wasiirka oo la hadlay warbaahinta ayaa sheegay in ay isla gaareen qodobo Muhiim ah ,kuwaasi oo kor loogu qaadayo Waxbarashada Puntland,si loo kordhiyada tayada Iskuulaadka ku yaala Meelo ka mid ah Puntland. Waxaa kaloo Wasiirka uu sheegay in laga wada hadlay Waxyaabihii Qabsoomay Sanadkii tagay ee 2009 ,Waxaana uu intaa ku daray in dugsiyada loo samayn doono Manhaj Midaysan. C/Faarax Juxa Wasiirka Waxbarashada Puntland ayaa intii uu socday kulanka waxaa uu jeediyay hadalo Muhiim ah oo ku aadan in Puntland laga taageero Waxbarashada,Waana Kulankii labaad oo uu Maamulka la qaato hayadaha Muddo labo asbuuc gudaheed ah. Sidoo kale Waxaa la sheegay in Kulan ay ka qayb galeen hayado Dawli ah oo dhanka Gar gaarka ah sida WFP ,WHO ,kuwaasi oo Puntland taageeri doona waqtiyada soo socda. Ugu Danbayntii Maamulka Wasaarada Waxbarashada ee Puntland ayaa laga sugayaa war qoraal ah oo oo ku aadan Heshiiski ay la qaateen hayadaha ,kaasi oo intiisa badan ku saabsnaa waxbarashada Puntland. Faisel Maxamed Hassan (Boston),Hiiraan Online

^^we are reading hearts now, are we? Adeer I am not excited about an old man sued while younger and more energetic criminals are still running the affairs of the ummah back home . It's silly really

Castro, I have a soft spot for Samatar. Dadkan gocoshadda ku jirana layma tuso

Castro, Dhaawacu ninkuu ka cusubyahay dhiiggu farihiisa, Oo shalayto kaa dhaansadaa dhoorre kula yaalle, Dhaqaalayna mayside naftaad kala dhaqoolteen’e How many other equally responsible men live in the west that could not be touched because they belong to more strongly organized clans? Was the individual who filed the criminal complaint against Samatar motivated by his personal experience with Samatar or was he after justice to the atrocities committed during Barre’s reign? I do believe this is a selective prosecution of an old man who might have once occupied in the second post in Barre regime but might not necessarily had been the most criminal or the most influential. Samatar have never been apologetic in putting down the rebel movements that took army against the Somali government he served. Today in hindsight, and in the context of what has transpired, I don’t believe Barre regime was as bad as we were led to believe, for more heinous crimes have been committed after it collapsed. It’s the nature of Somalis to die senselessly, and one cannot blame those in power who were forced to kill the ignorant, armed beasts who were motivated not by higher ideals but by clannish agenda----a clannish agenda that we all saw in our old ages what it amounted to. Awoowe SSDF would’ve loved to bring Barre to court. The USC folks wish to file criminal complaint against Ina Yusuf if they could, and the SNM gangs would still want to claim the moral summit of Somalia’s conflict. So what you are applauding is as silly as the Maliki government’s trail of Sadam Hussein. The fact that Samatar belongs to minority group will not factor in how Supreme Court would decide the case. That much I agree. But the whole thing is nonsense la kordhabay awoowe. Ha la is cafiyyo, ama dadkoo dhan ha la maxkamadeeyyo ps. Gabadhiisii baa magalaada joogta, oo taageero rabta, oo tiri odaga aabahay tol ma leh ee hay lay hiiliyyo. But I am not buying that

Even Alshabaab caught the bug

SHEEKH CUMAR SHEEKH MAX'ED FAARAX: "Hadafkii aan u dagaallamaynay ma ahay inaan jagooyin ka helno dowladda Soomaaliya" Talaado 23, Feb 2010 (HOL) Guddoomiyihii hore ee Ururka Ahlu Sunna Waljamaaca ee Gobollada Dhexe Sheekh Cumar Sheekh Max'ed Faarax oo shir jaraa'id maanta ku qabtay Muqdisho ayaa sheegay in hadafkii ay u dagaalamayeen uusan ahayn inay jagooyin ka helaan Dowladda. Sheekh Cumar iyo wafdi uu hoggaaminayo oo muddo todobaad ah ku sugnaa Magaalada Muqdisho ayaa sheegay in hadafkoodu uu ahaa mid ay ku doonayaan inay ku badbaadiyaan diinta Islaamka, ayna dadka baraan. "Ujeeddadii aan ula dagaallamaynay kooxaha dagaalka aan kula jirno ma ahayn inaan jagooyin iyo mansab kaga helno dowladda Soomaaliya, balse waxay ahayd inaan diinta Islaamka badbaadinno hadafkaasna kama leexanayno" ayuu yiri Sheekh Cumar Sheekh Max'ed Faarax. Mas'uulkan wuxuu sheegay inay soo dhaweynayaan tallaabo walba oo sababaya in dowladda iyo Ahlusunna ay isku soo dhawaadaan, isagoo aan mucaaradin shirkii ka dhacay dalka Itoobiya ee dhexmaray dowladda iyo Ahlusunna, sidoo kalena ma sheegay inay ku qanacsan yihiin. "Dowladdu waxaan ka doonaynaa inay garab nagu siiso sidii aan ula dagaalami lahayn kooxaha naga soo horjeeda, ayna diinta u faafin lahayn, inagoo raacayna jidadkii ay Islaamku diinta ku faafin jireen" ayuu yiri mas'uulkan. Sidoo kale wuxuu sheegay inuu la kulmay markii uu Muqdisho yimid madaxda Dowladda sida Madaxweyne Sheekh Shariif, Ra'iisul wasaare Cumar C/rashiid iyo xubnaha kale ee dowladda ayna kawada hadleen xiriirka u dhexeeya Dowladda iyo Ahlusunna. Wuxuu sheegay inay u sheegeen inaysan dowladda ka doonayn xil, balse ay aad ugu faraxsan yihiin inay isku soo dhawaadaan oo ay xiriir wanaagsan yeeshaan Dowladda iyo Ahlusunna Waljamaaca. "Waxaan sheegaynaa wixii khalad ah ee ay dowladdu gasho, sidoo kale waxaan sheegaynaa wanaaggii ay sameysay, taasina waa waajib saaran dadka Soomaaliyeed oo dhan" ayuu yiri Sheekh Cumar oo sheegay in ujeeddada safarkooda ay qayb ka tahay in ay mideeyaan garabyada Ahlusunna. Hadalka Guddoomiyihii hore ee Ahlusunna ayaa kusoo beegmaya iyadoo Dowladdu ay shaacisay in heshiis hordhac ah ay gaareen iyaga iyo Ururka Ahlusunna, kaasoo lagu wado in la saxiixo horraanta bisha soo socota ee Maarso. Maxamed Xaaji Xuseen, Hiiraan Online

Rift emerges in Somali Sufi group Tuesday, February 23, 2010 Senior leaders from Somalia's main Sufi group Ahlu Sunna wal Jamaa on Tuesday denounced a deal struck last week by some of its members with the government during a meeting in Addis Ababa. The Ethiopian foreign ministry had issued a statement on Saturday announcing an agreement between the embattled internationally-backed transitional federal government and the Sufi group to combat the country's Islamist insurgency. But some of the Sufi movement's top figures argued that those who reached the deal in Addis were not representative of the group and not authorised to set policy. "The so-called agreement reached and discussions that took place in Addis Ababa were misleading and created a rift within Ahlu Sunna followers," Sheikh Omar Sheikh Mohamed Farah, a top Ahlu Sunna leader, told AFP in Mogadishu. He argued that "the Addis deal does the Shebab and other anti-peace groups a favour by promoting some individuals over others and undermining a planned Ahlu Sunna general assembly to be held soon." Abdulkadir Mohamed Somow, another leader, said that one faction with Ahlu Sunna had "hijacked the process" by dealing directly with the federal government in the organisation's name. Ahlu Sunna wal Jamaa took up arms in 2008 to counter the growing threat to its traditional brand of Sufi Islam posed by the Shebaab, a self-declared component of al-Qaeda's global jihad. While inexperienced and poorly trained, the ad hoc Sufi militia is seen by observers as an important component of a planned government-led offensive to root out the Shebab, who currently control 80 percent of the country. The Sufi group has wide popular support is well established in the Galgudud and Mudug regions of central Somalia but some key federal government members remain deeply suspicious and see them chiefly as political rivals. Source: Independent Online

Given the level of grief voiced by qudhac, one is left to wonder which qudhac is telling the truth; the strong qudhac that chases the Garaads from Hol-hol and imprisons women and children in Lasanod, or the grieve-stricken qudhac that continues to bear the wounds of civil war, wishing to have his day in court against those who wronged him.

Originally posted by Castro: ^^^^ lol @ tuhmay. Yes, the US Supreme Court knows about Samatar's minority clan membership and based on that , has decided there's little political price to pay for prosecuting him for war crimes. That he's the highest ranking member of Afweyne's military junta to live in the United States has nothing to do with this. You are being a bit religious on Samatar's alleged crimes, ma istiri! Also, it's my understanding that the US Supreme Court did not decide Samatar's culpability. The fact it accepted to hear the case does not say much where they will come down on it, Castro. I can certainly understand one would find the minority argument quite silly. I find the selective prosecution of Somalia’s former strong men silly.