xiinfaniin Posted January 3, 2007 ^^More like give Ethiopia a chance to rule! Go right ahead and defend that point yaa ThePoint! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted January 3, 2007 ^Ooh Adeer - why would I defend that point? It is, after all, your point not mine. I turn it to you to defend your point. *Rubs hands together in eager anticipation* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted January 3, 2007 Why ? People who support the warlords in Mogadishu and Baydhabo find very easy to defend that point! I thought you hold the intellectual string of the whole thing! Maa caleesh! *I am disappointed in you yaa ThePoint* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted January 3, 2007 ^Adeer - I never made that point. In fact - it is your point. As such any disappointment you have with me stems from your pigeon holing of me and my position(and then expressing it). The George Bush mentality is alive and well on SOL *Yaa Xiin - stop the pigeon holing* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted January 3, 2007 ^The question you must answer is - why is allowing the TFG a chance to govern equal to Ethiopia governing? Defend your point - that is all I'm saying. Not terribly unfair, nooh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted January 3, 2007 ^^The why is complex but I hazard to simplify it for you, ThePoint, without Ethiopia there is no TFG! Hence every thing or great deal of it hinges what Ethiopia does, and not what you dream TFG would do. Since Ethiopia had been, for ages, and still remains to be our archenemy, it strikes to me as an extreme fantasy that it would help its enemy stand on its feet and govern smoothly its Somali subjects. The reason Ethiopia is in Somalia has a zilch to do with enabling old man’s entity to govern and everything to do with preserving Ethiopia’s regional interest in Somalia. One of Ethiopia's cheif nterest in the region, yaa ThePoint, is to keep Somalia’s status quo: weak and divided! Now unless you have a particular revelation to share with us, Ethiopia’s invasion in Somalia is to keep the TFG the way it’s as it serves a perfect diplomatic cover (we are invited by a sovereign government) and that sadly aligns well with Tigre’s regional agenda toward Somalia! Ethiopia’s invasion, it goes without saying, represents for some as a notional tragedy and for others, it’s the beginning of the Somali republic they wished to have. That’s why tfg equals Ethiopia! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted January 4, 2007 Quote:Kenya closes border with Somalia; US joins hunt for Islamists NAIROBI, JAN 4 (AFP) US naval forces have joined the hunt for Islamist militants with suspected Al-Qaeda ties trying to flee Somalia after being defeated by Ethiopian-backed government troops, a top US official has said as Kenya closed its border with its lawless neighbour. The US forces, based in Djibouti, were patrolling the seas off Somalia in a bid to capture some leaders of the Islamic Courts movement, including suspected Al-Qaeda agents wanted for the 1998 bombings of US embassies in East Africa, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said. The United States was working closely with Somalia's Horn of Africa neighbours "to ensure that these individuals aren't able to transit those borders," he said in Washington, without providing details of the US deployment. Kenya's Foreign Minister Raphael Tuju meanwhile said his country had closed its border with Somalia to prevent an influx of weapons and fighters. The closure, which came a day after Ethiopian helicopters bombed a Kenyan position by mistake, left thousands of would-be refugees stranded on the Somali side. Kenyan police prevented aid workers from reaching refugee reception centres and forcefully escorted at least 700 people in northern and coastal regions back over the border to Somalia, drawing a protest from the UN refugee agency. Tuju said that "we are not able to ascertain whether these people are genuine refugees or fighters and therefore it's best that they remain in Somalia." He insisted that Kenya would not budge on the issue "unless women and children are in danger inside Somalia. Where is the t.f.g in this? did the t.f.g suddenly acquire fighter jets to bomb somali "islamists" wadaado in somalia?Furthermore the t.f.g was hosting the alliance of shaytanic warlords who where regrouping and blatently stated they would get their old jobs back with the help of ethiopia.How can a government lie to it's own people?Did they not tell us there was no ethiopian troops and after that they changed their story to say there was only "a few trainers" well the few trainers occupy half of somalia and killed many somali youth. Even Zenawi stated himself that he had made all "preparations for war" with the islamic courts.Logically this means that during the khartoum meetings the t.f.g knew that a third party was making preparations for war. The principle of the i.c.u was simple, remove ethiopian troops from Somalia. Anyone with a slight bit of intelligence can tell that this whole scenario was ochestrated by the boys in Washington, due to their paranoia of islamic movements after Afghanistan.The t.f.g and the hizb of shaytan warlords are merely tools in a greater game. What will they say to ALLAH on the day of judgement? "ya allah we killed them because they where jihadist or ya allah we killed them because they where islamists"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted January 5, 2007 TP The invitation by the TFG for Ethiopian troops was illegal thus making the ceasefire between TFG and ICU valid and was not connected to Ethiopian troops in the country (even when invited by TFG)as it was illegal. ICU didnt need to ask for permission to attack the Ethios. They did no wrong in my view. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by Wadaad_Waranle: [QB] Anyone with a slight bit of intelligence can tell that this whole scenario was ochestrated by the boys in Washington, due to their paranoia of islamic movements after Afghanistan.The t.f.g and the hizb of shaytan warlords are merely tools in a greater game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites