Che -Guevara Posted November 27, 2010 ^You mean no Somali State? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qodax Qorax Posted November 27, 2010 This article is a complete distortion of History. The only historical relevant fact the author didnt mention is, that 'his' people have been under Ethiopian rule for centuries and that there is absolutely no evidence for being a State before being ruled by Xabashi's. But to be honoust nobody would like to admit being ruled by Xabashi's for centuries, I would say the same thing if I am resisting and fighting the Ethiopians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted November 27, 2010 Centuries.....? Any source to back up your claim? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted November 27, 2010 SOL has an uncanny prediliction to attract buffons of all types. Who is this Q&Q? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted November 27, 2010 ^You should invite Q&Q to sit down with the secessionist elements within the TPLF so they could discuss Ethiopian history Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted November 27, 2010 Originally posted by Al-Haji Abtigiis & Tolka: SOL has an uncanny prediliction to attract buffons of all types. Who is this Q&Q? Not sure of the historical context but he is right about the article. Mr Farah wrote it in 1978 so you could hardly expect him to be objective (that word again) enough. Still a good read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiLaaL Posted November 28, 2010 Excellent read. Thanks for sharing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayidSomal Posted November 28, 2010 Trust, But verify! - good read indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qodax Qorax Posted November 28, 2010 Originally posted by Che -Guevara: Centuries.....? Any source to back up your claim? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted November 28, 2010 ^You claimed Ethiopia ruled Somaligalbeed for centuries , your map only reflects the scramble for Africa. Do you have any evidence showing Abyssinia enjoyed sovereignty over Somaligalbeed before the era of colonialism or era after Imam Ahmed Gurey when largely Muslim Somali army was defeated. Please provide the source of the map you posted! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qodax Qorax Posted November 28, 2010 This map is from more then a century ago. So Ethiopia has been ruling the particular region for more then a century. Before this period, no evidence exist for a Somali State, but there is only Ethiopian evidence for rule in that region. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted November 28, 2010 ^The area came under Ethiopian rule in the late 19th century so your claim of Ethiopian presence in the Somaligalbeed for CENTURIES is false. Ethiopia lost control of Somaligalbeed when the Italian invaded and Somaligalbeed was incorporated into Italian Somaliland.When Italians lost WW II, Britain took control of the area and the idea of Greater Somalia was entertained but it was struck down by the Yanks after lobbying by the Ethiopians. It was 1948 that Ethiopia was given sovereignty over Somaligalbeed despite Somali objections! Historically, Somaligalbeed was under the control of different Muslim states including the Adal empire-a Somali state.Even without the presence of any Somali political entity, the ethnic Somalis didn't belong to the Abyssinian empire and they had no desire to be part of Ethiopia. There's no historical evidence to suggest the Highlanders even controlled Somaligalbeed before the scramble for Africa. Even after the scramble, they lost the control first to Italians, then the Brits, and finally the Somalis in 77. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 28, 2010 che Little correction the Amirs of harar used to rule parts of the Somali region with in Ethiopia , but the amirs of harar were not Somalis they were Muslim Ethiopians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 28, 2010 Also the the adal Empire did not rule all of the somali galbeed region just the northern part ,the jigjiga zone and dhagaxbuur zone and danod and the Shinile zone. They did not rule the southern part of the somali region with in Ethiopia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qodax Qorax Posted November 28, 2010 Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: che Little correction the Amirs of harar used to rule parts of the Somali region with in Ethiopia , but the amirs of harar were not Somalis they were Muslim Ethiopians. So, I am right. Ethiopians(muslim and christians) have been ruling the particular region? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites