General Duke Posted May 18, 2009 After 20 years of militias and warlords and fake religious warlords. The Mogadishu clans have known suffered at the hands of the Jihadi's they gave refugee to. For all the talk of comeback on international intervention can save the day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meiji Posted May 18, 2009 You should really seek therapy for your problems with those you call ''Mogadishu clans''. Go seek help adeer, because hate & cuqdad is killing you from the inside. PS: What ''dreams'' are you talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 18, 2009 ^^^Adeer why take is personally, this is the politics section and we are discussing politics. The dreams of the warlords of the "Mogadishu is us fascist groups" and of the likes of Ahmed Diriye and the clan Jihadi's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meiji Posted May 18, 2009 You should really do something about your cuqdad for those you refer to ''Mogadishu clans''. It is clear to all how far that hate and cuqdad runs in your veins. Also, what dreams exactly. Explain it and let us see how far your cuqdad goes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 18, 2009 Adeer we are discussing politics and no need for the emotional outburst. The issue here is how the political, economic and military failures of the USC and its birth children have led to this point to today. The destruction of Mogadishu, the meaningless wars with the international community, the clan cleansing and occupations of the fertile south, has caused Somalia irreparable damage. Your point is to keep us quite, not to discuss the truth. We came to this point because of the failure of this group, not a clan failure but a group who high jacked the interest of the clan and condemned the clan and Somalia to poverty and destitution Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meiji Posted May 18, 2009 We came to this point because of the failure of this group, not a clan failure but a group who high jacked the interest of the clan and condemned the clan and Somalia to poverty and destitution So, let me get it correct: -Because of the factional leaders in Mogadishu Somalia is condemnded to poverty and destruction? So the poverty in Bosaso, Hargaisa, Burco, Kismanyo etc can directly be linked to the failure of those in Mogadishu LOL. Another thing, one time (like in the above quote) you talk about ''political groups'' and in your topic and its title you talk about ''Mogadishu clans''. Apparenlty you have difficulties hiding your cuqdad for Mogadishu clans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meiji Posted May 18, 2009 ''have led to this point to today. '' Besides, What point exactly are you talking about? The Islamists seem on their way to re-unite Somalia and pacify it. And they have their political birth in Mogadishu city. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 18, 2009 You made a valid point old boy so don’t laugh at it. Because of the faction leaders failures and the religious fake wadaads taking hostage of Mogadishu, Somalia has been condemned to two decades of underdevelopment. Mogadishu as the capital has always been viewed wrongly by the international community as Somalia. Thus no real assistance have been given to Somalia including the Northern states. No companies would come to Somalia and conduct business because of Mogadishu and no foreign embassies and international presence could be set up in Somalia because of Mogadishu. We have been condemned to two decades of isolation, lack of development and have been looted by criminal groups. Because of the actions of this group Nairobi has been the defeco capital of Somalia at the expense of the people of Somalia as a whole. Anymore wise cracks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 18, 2009 Mogadishu warlords Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somali Pirate Posted May 18, 2009 duke you're right in one thing. the stability of mogadishu is the key here. if the south is stable somalia becomes stable. thats why it's the ultimate price. however you're wrong in one thing. the islamists are doing what any sane political and military force is doing. pacifying the country once and for all. there has been too many players in the south. it's time only one player emerged from this and rules the south with an iron fist. the islamists are better placed. just like how they did in 2006. just like chairman mao united china which has the same clannish structure like somalia, the islamists will reunite the country inshallah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 18, 2009 SomaliPirate: Adeer as usual either you are too young or naïve? The issue here is instability and international isolation. These groups are enemies of the international systems and thus will not bring Mogadishu and Somalia out of the cold, but prolong the pain and suffering. The fake religious warlords are another face of the Mogadishu failures and thus will not elad to anything. International involvement might become to deep that it will be a new colonization of the republic. That’s the road ahead dear lad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somali Pirate Posted May 18, 2009 tell the people of kismayo and other cities whether the islamists brought them pain. tell the people of mogadishu who were dancing in the streets when the icu took over the south in 2006 if it is safer under them compared to the warlords who destroyed the country? you're are too focused on the international community. you seem to care about them more than the well being of somalis. if the ordinary somali wants the islamists to rule because they can provide security and stability like places in kismayo then why should he care about what the rest of the world thinks. duke. the world does not care about somalia. the sooner you understand that the better. infact some in intl community want the anarchy to continue. it's time we somalis learnt to not care what the world thinks. the only thing that matters sre the somali people and how to bring peace quickly under one single power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rudy-Diiriye Posted May 18, 2009 i see dukey is missing the amxaaroows! loool.. wipe those tears and then come down to the mosque and join us. time to jump on the jihad bus to save your country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 18, 2009 SomaliPirate: Again adeer lets have discourse, no need for one sided vomit. The international community I agree have done a great deal of damage to Somalia. However as the topic states it’s the Warlords & scrap merchants that have been the tools of the Mafia type NGO’s. The clowns under the guise of religious eladersgip who are taunting the international community with “liberation of Alska” and such nonsense are bringing the raw naked power of the west to Somali soil. Thus what ever small security the people of Kismayu, and others enjoy for now, it will be derailed if the West sees Mogadishu under the likes of Godane, Aways & Turki. My brother, Somalia and Somali’s need to realize what our limitations are, we are a sick man who has been in a comma for nearly two decades, and you want this poor sick man who’s muscles are mangled to run in the Olympics. The warlords have held us down for 20 years, and now the fake Arab wannabees would like to hold us for another 20. However we know the truth already all their running around will amount to nothing. Its time we think about our interests and those of our children and stop getting emotional over fake promises and fake power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted May 18, 2009 Originally posted by rudy-Diiriye: i see dukey is missing the amxaaroows! loool.. wipe those tears and then come down to the mosque and join us. lol... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites