Today is a good day, finally Oodweyne is around. I am happy. Everybody in SOL knows this is a man who talks before he thinks and that he likes to vilify before verifying. But no one, I repeat no one, says he is boring! Welcome back Ood!, the village man.

Maybe you are right. I think about that nowadays to be honest. But then there is possibility his actions led to the radicalisation of the ICU. I don't think so, though. In many ways, I think Yey was right on this issue.

I support Ethiopian invasion 100%. As I said, Somalia needs stability first and political independence and soverignity second. It cannot continue to be a basket case and a money-making machine for the UN and Mahiga. What is going on is disgusting. Now the UN has issued a report saying three regions are out of famine, as if that is because of humanitarian assistance provided to these areas. IT IS NOT. It is because the rains have come and people have simply stopped to go to the camps that were set up during the Jilaal season. It is surprising that the downgrading of the needs comes at a week a survey on IDPs in Mogadishu revealed that there are 180,000 IDPs only (even this is false), while UNHCR and WFP were 'providing' food and non-food items to close to 1 million IDPs in the past few months in Mogadishu. It is causing a big embarrassment and the declaration of Bay, Bakool and Lower Shabelle famine-free is to pre-empt donor suspicions and backlash. So, Somalia needs dawlad la xisaabtanta the predatory UN and NGOs. Upon hearing Kenya is attacking the Jubbas, it was surprising to hear all the whites in the UN restlessly shouting 'why is this happening? the humanitarian situation will get worse'. Waxaa la diidan yahay meeshu inay accessible noqoto si loo qariyo malaayinta lagu cunayo nairobi in the name of 'there is no acccess to Alshabab areas'. Go Ethiopia finsish Alshabab. This is 2011 not 2006 when we all foolishly thought the ICU were bringing order to the country.

SayidSomal, Adiga inkaartu way kaa raacday arintii sheekha. So ma tihid ninkii markuu gabadha loo maherinayey, ee ay ku adkaystay aniga meherkaygu waa 5000 oo Dollar, sheekha ku yidhi ma tihid " Adigu sheekhoow iska maheri, aniga ha iga qaado waxay sheegaysee". :D

Currently, we are at number 8, but we will not be relegated. I can tell you that.

I don't know about Twitter waryaa. But I know the top 10 teams in the SOL premier league and Azania is one of them as you can see below: 1- Way Duushay United 2- Xinnfanin Pirates 3- Azania Wandarers 4- FC Qardho 5- Real SSC 6- 1998 Sheikh Sharif 7- Faroole Juniors 8- Inter-ONLF 9- Al-Aqoonyahan 10- Xaawaleey City

Budhcad weyn la qaaboow Farahaaga qalaniyo Labadaada qaaq laan.......(Faroole's two sons) Qalbiga uga duceeyee Aniga oo qab weynoo Quudhsada Somaliland Pirate’yahoow qorshaysan Maankayga qaadee Qawlka aan la yeedhaba Qaandi iyo qazaniya iyo Qorshahooda mooyee Qofna kuma canaantee Tuhun iyo qilaafiyo Qaxar buu dhalaayo Bal qabso AMISOM Waa lagu qafiifaa The full song: http://askarmotors.com/Maxamed.Nuur.Giriig.html

Whoelse! Indeed, it is the revolutionary and nationalist singer, the one and the only Sado. At a time, adolescent singers who mistake potential for proven success -like Nimco Dareen, kowtow to stooges of colonialists, fearless Sado is making us proud by blasting enemies of Somalia. Her shining page in Somali history is assured. Here is a play by the Qaylodhaan group, and Sado's lines below are moving. Maybe Xinnfanin will be moved too. Maybe it will exorcise the demon of 'Mahiga' that possessed the otherwise good soul of Xinn. Inkastoonu dilanahay Inkastoon daryeel jirin Inkastoon dayacan nahay Dadnimadu nagama tagin Somaalidu ma dabargo'in Dun xariir ah baan nahay Kana daga ku noo daran Doqanka iyo geesiga Dusha waanu ka ognahay This is a case where art has joined the forces of redemption in Somalia and fought the false charity and representatives of doom in Somalia. http://somaliradio.net/audio.php?id=1407

Some people are behaving like the village i.d.i.o.t who comes to funeral and sings wedding songs, something like arin ma aha uguboo , aadan iyo xaawaa ololaha bilaabee... Please respec the feelings of the grieving sister, oo tacsiyo dhexdii ha isku qabqabsanina.

Che, I concur! please pass the message around. Tan yari way waalatay, she thinks she is some big artist obviously mistaking promise for proved class. We even have her singing iyadoo tuutaha Liyu police ka ku heesaysa.

Che, we seek the same thing. But our priorities and how we read them differ.

I liked the Knight of Wisdom. Except the normal hot-bloodedness that comes when we join forums (which will pass), he was promising. I don't think Somalia deserves a ban. haven't seen him doing anything bad, to be honest. Also, he posts interesting threads. Of all people, why only focus on those who are keeping this forum alive. Do people want SOL to be a place where people only come in the morning and greet each other. "Haye, ma barideen?". BTW what does the rule say people who are banned two or three times and still manage to come back? Isn't time that we create a "ban-proof' nomads? :D I mean like dalaaq during divorces, Saddex jeer qofka ka soo noqda ban, I think in faraha laga qaado if for nothing for his tenacity.

I don't care about Azania. I said that as much but can't help somalis looking at who I am rather than what I am saying. It augurs bad for ONLF if Ethiopia takes Kismayo and Somalia, but it is selfish to hold Somalia hostage for the sake of Somaligalbeed. To a large extent the struggle in Somaligalbeed is in indigenous one and will not stand or fail because of what happens in Somalia. It can't get worse for ONLF, already every somali in Somalia is hunting them like expensive diamonds. I am convinced the political cost for Ethiopia (as they lose any pretext of we are fighting Alshabab) offsets any shorttime dangers for ONLF. Abtigiis Azaniyuu wataa is the useless talk of Xinn. Except a parody thread where I was reflecting the thinking among some Azanias, I have always stated my disliking of Gaandhi and the whole project. P.s. Ragga xanaaqayaa ha is dajiyaan. I am called a flip-flopper, a fickle, and yesterday Xinn was saying I am a PM away from going to his side. What is worse? To be accused of being a man with no stance or a soft-hearted one? Dee kaftanku one way ma noqon karee ha la adkeeysto. I admit my examples are rather harsh, but then if you can get some as bad throw them at me. I have mouth, which my comparative advantage in this dialogues and don't want to be denied that advantage.

:D loooooooool@Che, walee I succeeded to make him angry. He always passed as the calmest guy in the forum. runti, i had no purpose other than provoking him with that post. I don't apologise, I expect him to understand that it is between friends. Adkeeysa waryaa. Just to clarify I support Ethiopian going to somalia now. Let them even go and take Kismayo if they so wish. Alshabab should be finsihed and then we start another story, another struggle.

Dr. Xinn, If all of us here in SOL and those in TFG are naive,why don't you take over this bloody TFG entity with your cunning political skills and save us all from this national paralysis? Cid walba waa naive baad leedahaye, yaa wax garan oo somali u soo hadhay? Ma Che' gan qiiraysan ee the Aaliyah of the political section ah ee ilmada naxariistu ka soo horeysa iyo adigan cid waliba ku wareertay baa talo haya? :D

xiinfaniin;759679 wrote: Ironically recent developments in the South have one probable effect; help Alshabaab regain the political/moral support they've lost in the last year. ...from delusional nationalists who can afford to wait for somalia's redemption another 4-15 years sipping hot chocolates in the US and Europe. Infact, Che and Xinn have already offered this support by opposing reasonable and practical approachs that could end the reign of the budhcad-diineed. good Xinn finally realized he was all along mistaking a fog for real rain with regard to the Sharif and the TFG.

Ambushing healthy postulates Let us see what Omano Edigheji, a proponent scholar of the democratic developmentalist state, thinks about the defining principles of the liberal democracy that Meles is saying is a dead end. Liberal democracy offers citizen participation (meaning choosing their leaders), equality, political tolerance, accountability, transparency, regular free and fair elections, economic freedom, control of the abuse of power, a bill of rights, the separation of the powers of the executive, the legislature and the judiciary, accepting the result of elections, human rights, a multiparty system, and the rule of law. These are not principles one associates with the regime of Meles Zenawi. Knowing that these principles are impervious to the TPLF’s soul, Zenawi seized on the limitations of neo-liberal economic paradigm – market failure, rent-seeking and the absence of equity to perfume dictatorship; challenges recognized by mainstream economists all along, and whose solution does not lie in a fit-all prescription or on jumping onto state-led economy which itself is not immune to rent-seeking and market distortions. Serious economists have looked at all sides of the argument and arrived at the conclusion that the net gain of market liberalization has been positive. Some scholars even ascribe the success of Asian economies largely to these countries’ embracing of free-market ideals and not to the economic activism of their governments. With impish abandon, Meles disregards the nuance that ‘the specificity of certain political and economic conditions must be taken into account’ when prescribing a developmentist State. Meles invokes Korea, Scandinavia, Japan, Botswana and sundry to explicate the point that a dominant political party that rules for a century or half-century can only establish developmentalist state in Africa. The analogy is false and dishonest. The Social Democrats in Scandinavian countries ruled for many years by appealing to voters, not by intimidating the electorate. They did not steal elections; beat political opponents, closed political space for rival ideas. The Japanese transformation was led by the Liberal Democratic Party, espousing various economic growth and development models at any given time, but with leadership that was coming to power through democratic elections. They wore the cloak of the dominant party by charm, not by coercion and pilfering ballot-boxes. Edigheji warns against the type of dominant party that Meles is imposing on Ethiopia under the subterfuge of democratic developmental state, when he says that a “democratic developmental state requires a political system that is able to accommodate diverse political interests and not one that prescribes one party”. Ever selective, Meles travels to Italy to escape such reprimand. The differing social values and capital in North and South of Italy is raised to defer democracy. The reasoning is that the prevailing social organization in Ethiopia is similar to that of South Italy and therefore time is needed before opening up the political space for contending ideas. Indeed, all parties in Ethiopia, and idiosyncratically the TPLF, has every features of the Social organization in Southern Italy - the "amoral familialism", which is the ‘vertical linkage variety’ based on primordial/ancestral connections. The horizontal programmatic coalitions (based on common programmes and orientations, not on ethnicity) that is the defining institutional attribute of a developemental state is awfully lacking in the TPLF as a party and in the government it leads. The democratic developemntalist state paradigm emphasizes that an electoral system that promotes accountability is more important than the number of political parties involved in the election process; not that electoral democracy should be forfeited or deferred to ensure unelected dominant party stays in power until its ‘development’ goals are achieved. Register this willful misunderstanding by Meles!

Stretching semantics for mischievous ends A fraught political entity, inherently predisposed by the bankruptcy of its primordial birth, always stretches the semantic range of theories, concepts, and words, creating a new condition where same arguments end up undermining the very foundation that coined them, while supporting the cause against which they were instituted and fronted. I am talking about Meles Zenawi and the Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF). We have always known varnishing old or existing knowledge spheres, ideologies, and systems with fresh colours and marketing them as significant departures from dominant thinking regimes of any given time is the unmistakable attribute of novice intellectuals. We now know it is also the exclusive franchise of learned dictators who seek theoretical disguise to entrench dictatorship. These dictators hence fill hollow ideological jars with rebranded secondhand paradigms, made more alluring and malleable through ba.st.ar.dized and selective political and economic narratives that borrow from any and every tradition to justify profane ambitions of absolute and unending political power. ‘Paradigm shift’, ‘Thinking outside the box’, and ‘the third way’ are the much-maligned aromatic terminologies which are now at a risk of joining the growing list of overused clichés. There are genuine paradigm shifts. There is unpretentious thinking outside the box. There are always alternative ways, the middle ground. But these genuine breaks from orthodoxy are conspicuous in their ingenuity. They are not the ‘supplements’ that Jacques Derida derided as an ‘indication of a certain lack of originality’ (Of grammatology, 1976). They are not what adolescent Addis Ababa vagrants call ‘the same boqolo (maize)-different Joniya (Sack)’, with awesome insolence in heavily-accented Amenglish (Amharic-English). http://www.wardheernews.com/Articles_11/Nov/Mukhtar/18_The_political_philosophy_of_Zenawi.html

:D inaan soo daahaan moodayee, assay horta wali ma loo saaray gabadha? Waa la wada dhiman. kuligeen xagaas ayaan u soconaa. The Aakhiro of the cyberworld -Somalinet. Horta what is the matrimonial oath in this context? ..."To live togather in general section or politics section, to post and troll togather...till somalinet do us part!"

Following the self-immolation of school teacher Yenesew Gebre in Dawro, Southern Nations, Nationalities and people’s region of Ethiopia on November 11, 2011, the story is the talk of the town in Ethiopia . Yenesew, the Ethiopian Bouazizi, spoke of the injustices of the Meles regime and said he will highlight the plight of oppressed Ethiopian by sacrificing himself for the cause of freedom. You can follow the story on the BBC and elsewhere. I raised this issue after reading a deeply moving, tear-inducing poem, Asradaw, a first-rate Ethiopia poet composed in tribute to the martyr of liberty. I am not doing justice to the poem, and have posted the link so that those who read Amharic can see for themselves. Here is the poem “I will die standing”. I won’t wait for death, sleeping on my bed I will go to it, riding the macabre horse Nor will I bath with tears, sitting and weeping I won’t kneel down, bending my knees I will not wait for it, to come and take me I will go to it, so it doesn’t come for him (other Ethiopians) Let it know my pride, let it see my courage I will die standing, I will never kneel down! I won’t look for a cave, to hid myself in I don’t want jungle, where I disappear into My neck will not stare down, nor will I turn my face My bones will not tire; I will not fold my limps I will wait for death, beating my chest Parading the shield of honour, of valour No! I will not kneel down, I will die standing Let it know I am brave, the progeny of a brave I won't wait for death, in the darkness of night! So that it takes me, while no one sees and hears Never will I beg death, to spare me today To procrastinate, and donate more ages to me To make me bed-ridden, and mishandle me there And later on take me, roughing up my body Never! I will wait for it, under the clear sun Let this be my oath, to the earth, to the sky I will die standing, like Jesus Christ Until I resurrect, in a homecoming triumph! Wishing it offers me, fractional more years I will not wait for death, in a reclining respite I will go to it, so it doesn’t come for him (other Ethiopians) Let what comes come, I will not hide from it I will not wait sleeping, so death comes and takes me It will meet me standing, I myself will go to it I will not kowtow to death, out of a longing to live Never will I beg death, beseeching it to spare me I will never kneel down, I will die standing Let it know I am brave, the progeny of the brave!! The Amharic link: http://www.ethiopiazare.com/art/poem/1948-asradew

'The angels are always near to those who are grieving, to whisper to them that their loved ones are safe in the hand of Somalinet'. Be strong at this difficult time of your cyber life. Just when we thought we will send you congratulations for a happy marriage, do we wake up to this tragedy. Dare you say the Knight is dead! He is not. 'While we are mourning the loss of our friend, others are rejoicing to meet him behind the SOL, at Somalinet.' And indeed, 'Unable are the loved to die. For love is immortality'. You are not alone. You will never grieve alone. We are with you, daughter of the Somali soil. Inaa-Somalinet, wa inaa Somalinet raajicuun! May God make the soil lighter on his body. Our son, who died before he was born. The Knight of Wisdom.

I ask to be forgiven if I make a factual mistake, but from the information I have on the Jubbas, no clan can claim singular ownership of the region. So, I believe Gabbal is right. It is a place where many diverse clans live and some who claim it today haven't been there some decades ago, while others who claim it have arrived a decade or so before. The solution is to have an administration that goes beyond this clan identity and brings all togather. Azania is not that state, admitedly. But if Gandi reaches out to others in the region and demonstrates with action that this isn't a one-clan project, it can be used as a framwork to build on. I don't think this will happen, judging by the attitude of Gandhi. That said, today is about Alshabab and I am fully behind the efforts to dismantle this horror group. In the process earning the usual condemnations and accussations of putting clan interest before the national one. I see the bigger picture, the liberty for the people who can't speak, smoke or dress the way they want. That is more important than the condemnations of someone sipping tea in the US, free from all this oppression.

The Zack;759535 wrote: Shariif has finally been forced to stop opposing Azania. I am not sure how can exactly that was done but it was done. He has changed his stance and now fully the support the Azania State of Somalia. This is premature celebration and The mighty ZACK knows it. We all know the Shariif is like a wet soap, and evolves fast. It depends who sees him last and if those oppossed to Azania have breakfast with him this morning, you may hear a different tone this evening. Having said that he will be reckless not to welcomea regional state that is willing to bolster the TFG. What other alternative does he have in the Jubbas? Alshabab? warlords who doesn't obey him? He should be sensible. But I fear this Ghandi character. I think the man is power-hungry and potentially a trouble-maker. Azania led by people who see the bigger picture of national reconstruction could be an asset. The Ghandi Azania is a cause for concern.

See my advice before this game. I knew the defining moments will be after the hour mark. I know that place and the kids are flat out. I am sure Ethiopia is missing many open goals. The coach is to blame. The kids should have not run themselvs out in the first half. Egyptians never life a leg in the first half when they came to Addis. They sleep around, feign injury and push the hour. get yellow cards after yellow cards for play acting, but in the second they play well and bring their good players in. They usually get a draw.

Juxa, that is fair. One of the best friends in SOL is Xinnfanin, and he is a man who detests my other stories. I accpet your clarification.