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Shaykh 'Abdul-'Azeez Ibn 'Abdullaah Ibn 'Abdur-Rahmaan Ibn Baaz
Shaykh Muhammad Naasiruddeen al-Albaanee
Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Saalih Ibn 'Uthaymeen
Shaykh Dr. Rabee' Ibn Haadee 'Umayr al-Madkhalee
Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah
Shaykh 'Abdul-'Azeez Ibn 'Abdullaah Aal ash-Shaykh
Shaykh 'Abdullaah Ibn 'Abdur-Rahmaan Aal Ghudayyaan
Shaykh 'Abdullaah Ibn Muhammad Ibn Humayd
Shaykh 'Abdullaah Ibn Hasan al-Qu'ood
Shaykh 'Abdul-Muhsin Ibn Hamad al-'Abbaad
Shaykh Ahmad ibn Yahya an-Najmee
Shaykh Hammaad ibn Muhammad al-Ansaaree
Shaykh Dr. Muhammad Amaan Ibn 'Alee al-Jaamee
Shaykh Muhammad ibn 'Abdullaah as-Sumaalee
Shaykh Dr. Rabee' Ibn Haadee 'Umayr al-Madkhalee
Shaykh Dr. Saalih Ibn Fowzaan Ibn 'Abdullaah Ibn Fowzaan
Shaykh 'Umar ibn Muhammad ibn Muhammad Bakar Fallaatah
The Permanent Committee for Islaamic Research and Fataawa
Muhaddith Abdur-Rahman al-Mu'allimee al-Yamani
Shaikh Muqbil Bin Haadee al-Waadi`ee: Part 1
Shaykh 'Abdullaah Ibn 'Abdur-Rahmaan Abaa Butayn
Shaykh Abu 'Abdullaah 'Abdur-Rahmaan Ibn Naasir Aal Sa'dee
Shaykh 'Abdur-Razzaaq Ibn 'Afeefee Ibn 'Atiyyah
Shaykh Haafidth Ibn Ahmad al-Hakamee
Shaykh Hamood ibn 'Abdullaah at-Tuwayjiree
Shaykh Ibraaheem Ibn Muhammad Aal ash-Shaykh
Shaykh Muhammad al-Ameen Ibn Muhammad al-Mukhtaar al-Jaknee
Shaykh Ahmad bin Yahyaa An-Najmee
Shaikh ‘Abdullaah bin Muhammad Al-Qar’aawee
Al-Haafidh Zayn-ud-Deen Ibn Rajab Al-Hanbalee
[ November 21, 2004, 01:58 AM: Message edited by: Nur ]
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Bismillah!!!
as well
http://calgaryislam.com/imembers/Sections+main.html
Staying Steadfast upon the Sunnah :
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Part 1.
Allaah the Exalted said:
O you who believe, have taqwaa of Allaah and do not die except in while you are Muslims (in a state of submission to Him).
In every Muslims mind a question should arise upon reciting or reading this verse. This verse should make everyone think:
IN WHAT STATE WILL I DIE?
Death is something that cannot be avoided and will eventually come to every being, Allaah the Sublime said:
Every soul shall taste death
He also said:
Everything upon it (the earth) will perish
He also said:
Wherever you maybe death will overtake you, even if you were in towers, built high and strong
The disbelievers love this life so much that they are even willing to have their bodies frozen with the hope that in the future they may be brought back to life. It is strange that this hope and expectation does not lead them to believe in the plausibility of the resurrection. They think they can cheat that moment of death!
Yet there are others who wish they could live for a thousand years amassing wealth, children and belongings,
Death will certainly come to them all and also to us but,
IN WHAT STATE WILL WE DIE?
Will we die for example:
1. Bankrupt, devoid of any actions, never having done any good, or tried to do good or even had a desire to do good?
Until when death comes to one of them he says: "O my Lord, send me back so that I may do good in that which I neglected." But no! It is only a word that he utters and between them is a partition (barzakh) until the day that they are raised up.
2. Or will we die having gathered riches, wealth, status, power yet finding ourselves in the situation which Allaah has described:
The sinner would desire to ransom himself from the punishment of that Day by his children. And his wife and his brother. And his kindred who sheltered him. And all that are on the earth, so that it might save him. By no means, verily it will be the Fire of Hell!
and also:
But as for the one who is given his record in his left hand, he will say: "I wish that I had not been given my record! And that I had never known, how my account is? I wish that it would have been my end (death). My wealth has not availed me. My power and arguments (to defend myself) have gone from me! It will be said: "Seize him and fetter him. Then throw him in the Blazing Fire. Then fasten him with a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Verily he used not to believe in Allaah the Mighty, and urged not the feeding of the poor. So no friend has he here this Day, nor any food except filth from the washing of wounds, (which) none will eat except the khaati'oon (sinners, those who fall into the wrong disbelievers etc...)
3. Or will we die in a state of negligence. Having been neglectful of our duty to Allaah and at the same time finding fault with and mocking other Muslims? Mocking at them for sticking to the commands of Allaah, the Sunnah of His Messenger, laughing at their appearance and so on...Allaah said:
Or that the soul may say: Alas, my grief that I was undutiful to Allaah (i.e. I have not done what Allaah has ordered me to do) and I was indeed among those who mocked (at the truth)
4. Or will we die in the midst of the kuffar, having become like them, adopted their habits, customs and ways of behaving, having nurtured our children upon their ways and customs?
And you dwelt in the dwellings of men who wronged themselves and it was clear to you how We dealt them. And we put forth many parables for you.
And Umar (ra) said: "Whoever lives in the land of the pagans and disbelievers and celebrates their festivals and behaves like them until he dies, he will be resurrected with them on the Day of Judgement"
5. Or will we die in a state of kufr, disbelief, or doubt?
Verily those who believe, then disbelieve then believe, then disbelieve then increase in disbelief, never will Allaah forgive them and nor guide them to a (correct) way.
This is a great danger and many Muslims have already fallen into it. Some have actually been led to and fallen into disbelief.
Believing there is a better way than Islam is disbelief
Practicing magic is disbelief
Not treating the Jews and Christians or pagans as disbelievers, or doubting in their concepts is disbelief
Acting on Islam but out of dislike in the heart is disbelief
Thinking that Islam or the Sunnah is outmoded, outdated, of no relevance to the modern times is disbelief
And there are many other such matters which constitute or lead to disbelief
Allaah said:
Verily, those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers (in the state of disbelief), upon them is the curse of Allaah, the angels and the whole of mankind.
6. Or will we die for example in a state of HEEDLESSNESS, oblivion, like the animals?
The Exalted said:
And who is more unjust than the one is reminded of the signs of His Lord and then turns away from them.
And do not be like those who forgot Allaah so Allaah made them forget their own souls.
Closer and closer to mankind comes their reckoning, yet they turn away in heedlessness.
Those amongst us who couldn't care less, never bother about learning about the deen, or even reflecting upon the creation so that the possibility of the resurrection becomes vividly clear and certain and which in turn moves and excites the heart to Allaah's worship. There are some Muslims who we have heard saying, upon receiving advice and admonition: "Please leave us alone , as for us we will settle our matter with Allaah when the time comes on the Day of Judgement, give us a break."!!! Such ignorance and arrogance!!
So these are some of the ways and states in which people will die, amongst many others which have been mentioned in Allaah's Book, and we seek refuge in Allaah from such a situation.
And worthy of contemplation is the saying: The most contemptible of people is the one who went astray in the final part of his journey, having approached his destination [Al-Fawaa'id of Ibn al-Qayyim]
source: Troid.org
By Amjad Rafiq
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By the Muftee of the Ummah, Shaykh ’Abdul-’Azeez Ibn ’Abdullaah Ibn Baaz (d.1420H) (rahimahullaah)
Q.1] ‘What do you say about the woman’s role in calling to Allaah?’
[A.1] ‘‘She is like the man, she should call to Allaah, and order the good and forbid the evil, since the texts from the Noble Qur‘aan and the Pure Sunnah prove this, and the words of the scholars are clear about this. So she should call to Allaah, order the good and forbid evil in accordance with the manners prescribed in the sharee’ah (revelation) which are required from the man. Along with this, she should not be diverted from calling to Allaah by impatience and by lack of perseverance due to the fact that some people belittle her or abuse her, or make fun of her. Rather, she should bear that and patiently persevere - even if she sees something from the people that may be counted as being mockery. She should also take care of another matter, which is that she should be an example of chastity and cover herself with hijaab in front of males who are not mahram for her and she should avoid mixing with men. Rather her da’wah (call) should be done while taking care to avoid everything for which she would be censured. So, if she gives da’wah to men, then she does so while wearing proper hijaab and without being alone with any one of them. And if she gives da’wah to women, she does so with wisdom and pure manners and conduct so that no one remonstrates with her and asks her why she does not begin with herself. She should also avoid clothing which, will be a trial (fitnah) for the people, and she should keep far away from every cause of fitnah, such as revealing her beauty and speaking in a sensual manner - which would be censured. Rather, she should take care to call to Allaah in a manner which will not harm her Religion, or her reputation.’’
[Q.2] ‘What is the knowledge needed by a caller to Allaah and for ordering the good and forbidding evil?’
[A.2] ‘‘It is necessary for the caller (daa’ee) to Allaah and who is ordering the good and forbidding evil to do so with knowledge. Allaah states: ‘‘Say: This is my way, I call unto Allaah upon knowledge (’alal-baseerah).’’ [soorah Yoosuf 12:108] Knowledge is defined as what Allaah has stated in His Noble Book, or what was stated by the Messenger (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) in his authentic Sunnah. Both actions should be based on the Noble Qur‘aan and the Pure Sunnah. The caller will know from them what Allaah has ordered and what He has forbidden. She will know the methodology of the Messenger (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) in da’wah to Allaah and disavowal of evil, and the method of his companions (radiyallaahu ’anhum). The caller can do this by looking at the reference books of hadeeth and paying close attention to the Noble Qur‘aan and referring to the statements of the scholars in this regard for they have written much on this topic and laid the necessary foundation. What will put one in position to fulfill these matters is to give attention to it to the point that they are upon clear knowledge of the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) in order to put matters in their proper place. The caller can put the call to good in its proper place and ordering to the good and forbidding the evil in its proper place clearly and with knowledge until they will not fall into disavowing or forbidding a wrong with what may be worse. Also to not call to good in a manner which may lead to an evil worse than if they merely left off calling to that good thing. The point is to emphasize the necessity of the caller possessing knowledge so that they may put matters in their proper place.’’
[Q.3] ‘If a believing woman sees someone from her near relatives committing some sins, then what should her stance be?’
[A.3] ‘‘She should forbid the evil in a good manner and with good words, gentleness and kindness - since it may be that the sinful person may be ignorant or ill-tempered and if they are strongly censured it will only make them worse. She should therefore forbid the evil with a nice manner and good words and with clear proof from what Allaah and His Messenger said and while making du’aa (supplication) for them that they be guided so that estrangement is not caused between them. This is how ordering the good and forbidding evil should be. It should be with knowledge, insight and clarity, gentleness and forbearance as will help the one being censured to accept it and not be averse and resist it. The one ordering the good and forbidding the evil should therefore endeavor to use words which one hopes will be a reason for acceptance of the truth.’’
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Capital Z saxib you must be hallucinating ,
The eagle picked up from where they left off saxib, that cheat shot on MCnab seriously damaged hopes, but we won’t cry over spilled milk, this is another year and another run, The girly pats will get what they deserve, if they ever pass the Steelers!
Qac Saxib what team are you a fan off or are you a typical Turncoat?
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^^^ salam do you actually see the prophet in a cartoonish format? do you also see the Sahabs in this form?!?
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Mockery of the Religion is Disbelief
Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan
Source: Things that Nullify One's Islam (p.41-46) [1]
[ In the Name of Allah, the All-Merciful... ]
The sixth one: Whoever mocks anything from
the Religion of the Messenger or Allah's
reward or punishment has disbelieved. [2]
The sixth kind of apostasy is mockery of what Allah sent down or of anything that the Messenger came with, even things from the Sunnahs (of the Prophet, sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) or recommended things like siwaak, trimming the moustache, removing armpit hair, or trimming the nails. If a person makes mockery of any of these things he becomes a disbeliever. The evidence for this is found in the Statement of Allah the Most High:
"And if you were to ask them, they would say: 'Surely we were
only jesting and playing.' Say: 'Was it Allah, His Verses,
or His Messenger you were mocking? Make no mistake,
verily you have disbelieved after your belief.' " [3]
So then the one who mocks anything that the Messenger came with, be it obligatory or recommended, he is an apostate from the Religion of Islam. So then what do you think about the one who says, "Growing the beard, trimming the moustache, removing armpit hair, washing the knuckles, these are insignificant things!" This is exactly what is meant by mockery of the Religion of Allah, the Mighty and Majestic. When they say this thing, and if they know (it is from the Religion), then they have apostated, since this is belittling what the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) came with. It is obligatory to have great reverence for the Sunnah of the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) and to respect it.
Even if a person falls into some kind of opposition (to the Sunnah) due to his desires, then surely he still must respect the way of the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam), respect his Sunnahs, and respect the narrations. He must not say, "These are insignificant things."
The proof is the Statement of Allah the Most High:
"Say: 'Was it Allah, His Verses, or His Messenger
you were mocking? Make no mistake, verily
you have disbelieved after your belief.' " [4]
The event that led to the revelation of this Verse was what happened with a group of people who were with the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) during the Battle of Tabook. They were Muslims. During a gathering they began to say, "We have not seen the likes these reciters of ours, the most untruthful tongues, the greediest stomachs, the most cowardly in the face of the enemy…" They were referring to the Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) and his Companions.
Amongst them was a young man from the Companions who became enraged at this speech and went to convey what this group was saying to the Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam). He found that the revelation had preceded him (in informing the Messenger).
So then the group came apologizing once they heard that the Messenger had become aware of what happened in their gathering. One of them was hanging on to the front harness of the Prophet's she-camel while he (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) was riding it, saying, "O Messenger of Allah! We were just talking loosely to help pass the time during the journey! We did not intend mockery, rather we only intended to joke." The Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) would not even look at him, he only recited upon him this Verse:
"And if you were to ask them, they would say: 'Surely we were
only jesting and playing.' Say: 'Was it Allah, His Verses,
or His Messenger you were mocking? Make no mistake,
verily you have disbelieved after your belief.' " [3]
Notice His Statement, "Verily you have disbelieved after your belief." This proves that before they had uttered words (of mockery) they were Muslims, and that when they uttered them they apostated from Islam, even though they were saying that it was a joke. This is because the affairs of the Religion are not to be played with, so Allah had declared them to be disbelievers after their faith. We ask Allah for safety. [4]
This is also proof that whoever insults Allah, His Messenger, His Book, anything from the Quran, or anything from the Sunnah of the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) apostates from Islam, even if he was joking. [5]
Where are those who say that he does not apostate unless he intends it in his heart? They say, "If a person insulted Allah, the Messenger, or the Quran, we do not pass a judgement upon based merely on his utterance or his action." Where do they get these statements and these specifications from? Allah has judged them with apostasy while they were saying:
"We were jesting and playing." [3]
They were believers in Allah and His Messenger, people of tawheed, however, once they uttered those words, Allah said:
"Verily you have disbelieved after your belief." [3]
And He did not say, "If you had truly believed that." We ask Allah for safety.
So it is obligatory that things are put in their proper places and that we do not add things, take them away, or specify the texts from our own selves. Allah did not ask about what they believed, nor did He mention that they believed (what they said), rather He ruled on them with apostasy after having faith:
"Verily you have disbelieved after your belief." [3]
He based this (ruling) on a statement. He based this (ruling) on mockery, and He did not specify it with these specifications. If a person speaks with a word of disbelief without being forced into it, then he is judged with apostasy. However, if he was forced [6], then he has not apostated in this case.
This article was taken from BAKKAHnet (www.bakkah.net)
FOOTNOTES
[1] From the TROID publication: Things that Nullify One's Islam by Shaykh al-Islam Muhammad ibn 'Abdil-Wahhaab, explained by Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan. Click here for information about ordering the book.
[2] The words in the box are from Shaykh al-Islam Muhammad ibn 'Abdil-Wahhaab, and what follows is Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan's explanation.
[3] A translation of the meaning of Soorah at-Tawbah (9):65-66
[4] Shaykh Saalih was asked about the least amount of mockery that would cause a person to be considered an apostate. He replied, "There is no least amount. A small amount is too much, and the refuge is with Allah. Anything that is considered mockery or ridicule is disbelief. Even as they (the scholars) say: A gesture with one's lip, hand, or eye can be considered mockery, even if he has not spoken." Refer to Question #27 in Appendix I: Questions and Answers (of the published version).
[5] Refer to Question #30 in Appendix I: Questions and Answers (of the published version).
[6] Shaykh Saalih states, "The ruling on coercion differs depending on the situation. Something could be considered coercion in one affair and not coercion in another. So it differs depending on the case. However, the coercion that is a valid excuse is that which there was no escape from, there was no way for the person to escape from being killed, beaten or threatened other than saying what was requested from him, like saying a statement of disbelief for example." Refer to Question #18 in Appendix I: Questions and Answers (of the published version).
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Every year, on the evening of October 31st, millions of children across North America paint their faces, dress up in costumes, and go door to door collecting treats. The adults often decorate their houses with
ghostly figures, carve scary faces on pumpkins, and put candles in them to create "Jack-O-Lanterns." Unfortunately, among the millions of North Americans indulging in this custom, many are also Muslims. This article will shed some light on the significance and origins of Hallow'een, and why Muslims should not participate in it.
Origins of the Hallow'een Festival
The ancient Celtic (Irish/Scottish/Welsh) festival called Samhain is considered by most historians and scholars to be the predecessor of what is now Hallow'een. Samhain was the New Year's day of the pagan Celts. It was also the Day of the Dead, a time when it was believed that the souls of those who had died during the year were allowed access into the "land of the dead". Many traditional beliefs and customs associated with Samhain continue to be practiced today on the 31st of October. Most notable of these customs are the practice of leaving offerings of food and drink (now candy) to masked and costumed revelers, and the lighting of bonfires. Elements of this festival were incorporated into the Christian festival of All Hallow's Eve, or Hallow-Even, the night preceding All Saint's (Hallows') Day. It is the glossing of the name Hallow- Even that has given us the name of Hallow'een. Until recent times in some parts of Europe, it was believed that on this night the dead walked amongst them, and that witches and warlocks flew in their
midst. In preparation for this, bonfires were built to ward off these malevolent spirits.
By the 19th century, witches' pranks were replaced by children's tricks. The spirits of Samhain, once believed to be wild and powerful, were now recognized as being evil. Devout Christians began rejecting this festival. They had discovered that the so-called gods, goddesses, and other spiritual beings of the pagan religions, were diabolical deceptions. The spiritual forces that people experienced during this festival were indeed real, but they were manifestations of the devil who misled people toward the worship of false idols. Thus, they rejected the customs associated with Hallow'een, including all representations of ghosts, vampires, and human skeletons - symbols of the dead - and of the devil and other malevolent and evil creatures. It must also be noted that, to this day, many Satan-worshippers consider the evening of October 31st to be their most sacred. And many devout Christians today continue to distance themselves from this pagan festival.
The Islamic Perspective
Iman (faith) is the foundation of Islamic society, and tauheed (the belief in the existence and Oneness of Allaah) is the essence of this faith and the very core of Islam. The safeguarding of this iman, and of this pure tauheed, is the primary objective of all Islamic teachings and legislation. In order to keep the Muslim society purified of all traces of shirk (associating partners with Allaah) and remnants of error, a continuous war must be waged against all customs and practises which originate from societies' ignorance of divine guidance, and in the errors of idol worship.
Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam)issued a stern warning: "Whoever imitates a nation is one of them!" (Abu Da'oud). Muslims should heed this warning and refrain from copying or imitating the kufar in their celebrations. Islam has strongly forbidden Muslims to follow the religious or social customs of the non-Muslims, and especially of the idol-worshippers or those who worship the devil. The Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam)said: "By Him in Whose hands is my life, you are ordered to enjoin good and forbid evil, or else Allaah will certainly afflict you with torments. Thereafter, even your du'a (supplications) will not be accepted." (Tirmidhi). From an Islamic standpoint, Hallow'een is one of the worst celebrations because of its origins and history. It is HARAM (forbidden), even if there may be some seemingly good or harmless elements in those practises, as evidenced by a statement from the Prophet (s.a.s.) "Every innovation (in our religion) is misguidance, even if the people regard it as something good" (ad-Daarimee.). Although it may be argued that the celebration of Hallow'een today has nothing to do with devil-worship, it is still forbidden for Muslims to participate in it. If Muslims begin to take part in such customs, it is a sure sign of weak iman and that we have either forgotten, or outrightly rejected the mission of our Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam)who came to cleanse us from jahiliyyah customs, superstitions and false practises.
Muslims are enjoined to neither imitate the behaviour and customs of the non-Muslims, nor to commit their indecencies. Behaviour-imitation will affect the attitude of a Muslim and may create a feeling of sympathy
towards the indecent modes of life. Islam seeks to cleanse the Muslim of all immoral conducts and habits, and thus paving the way for the Qur'an and Sunnah to be the correct and pure source for original Islamic
thought and behaviour. A Muslim should be a model for others in faith and practice, behaviour and moral character, and not a blind imitator dependant on other nations and cultures.
Even if one decides to go along with the outward practises of Hallow'een without acknowledging the deeper significance or historical background of this custom, he or she is still guilty of indulging in this pagan
festival. Undoubtedly, even after hearing the Truth, some Muslims will still participate in Hallow'een, send their kids "trick-or-treating," and they will try to justify it by saying they are doing it merely to make their children happy. But what is the duty of Muslim parents? Is it to follow the wishes of their children without question, or to mould them within the correct Islamic framework as outlined in the Qur'an and Sunnah? Is it not the responsibility of Muslim parents to impart correct Islamic training and instruction to their children? How can this duty be performed if, instead of instructing the children in Islam, parents allow and encourage their children to be taught the way of the unbelievers? Allaah exposes these types of people in the Qur'an: "We have sent them the Truth, but they indeed practise falsehood" (23:10). Muslim parents must teach their children to refrain from practising falsehood, and not to imitate the non-Muslims in their customs and festivals. If the children are taught to be proud of their Islamic heritage, they themselves will, insha Allaah, abstain from Hallow'een and other non-Muslim celebrations, such as birthdays, anniversaries, Christmas,
Valentines Day, etc. The Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam)said: The Final Hour will not come until my followers copy the deeds of the previous nations and follow them very closely, span by span, and cubit by cubit (inch by inch). (Bukhari). Islam is a pure religion with no need to accomodate any custom, practise or celebration that is not a part of it. Islam does not distinguish between "secular and sacred;" the shari'ah must rule
every aspect of our lives.
"You must keep to my Sunnah and the sunnah of the rightly-guided Caliphs; cling to it firmly. Beware of newly invented matters, for every new matter is an innovation, and every innovation is misleading."
(Bukhari)
"When the people see a person committing a wrong, but do not seize his hand to restrain him or her from the deed, it is likely that Allaah will punish them both." (Abu Da'oud, Nasa'i, Tirmidhi)
"Whoever imitates a nation is one of them." (Abu Da'oud)
What to do on Halloween.
We have established, beyond doubt, that the celebration of Hallow'een is absolutely forbidden in Islam. It is HARAM. The question arises as to what to do on this night. Muslim parents must not send their kids out
"trick-or-treating" on Hallow'een night. Our children must be told why we do not celebrate Hallow'een. Most children are very receptive when taught with sincerity, and especially when shown in practice the joy of their own Islamic celebrations and traditions. In this regard, teach them about the two Islamic festivals of Eid. (Eid-ul-Fitr is fast approaching, and this is the perfect time to start preparing them for it.) It must also be mentioned that, even Muslims who stay home and give out treats to those who come to their door are still participating in this festival. In order to avoid this, leave the front lights off and do not open the door. Educate your neighbours about our Islamic teachings. Inform them in advance that Muslims do not participate in Hallow'een, and explain the reasons why. (Give them a copy of this flyer if needed.) They will respect your wishes, and you will gain respect in the process. "A person who calls another to guidance will be rewarded, as will the one who accepts the message." (Tirmidhi)
Finally, we must remember that we are fully accountable to Allaah for all of our actions and deeds. If, after knowing the Truth, we do not cease our un-Islamic practises, we risk the wrath of Allaah as He himself
warned us in the Qur'an: "Then let them beware who refuse the Messenger's order lest some trial befall them, or a grevious punishment be afflicted upon them!" (24:63). This is a serious matter and not to be taken lightly. And Allaah knows best. May Allaah guide us, help us to stay on the right path, and save us from all deviations and innovations that will lead us into the fires of Hell.
source: www.T.R.O.I.D.org
The Reign of Islamic Da'wah
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if we know it improves the situation of Muslims it is from the manhaj of the salaf to overthrow a rule who commits kufr al asghar or not ?2. How can an act of Kufr be considered as 'lesser evil', and what is worse than an act of Kufr?Ayub maybe its just me, but why would anyone wish to overthrow a ruler if they know it will not improve their situation but make it worst?
what you mean with the second question,
because like i said, if a ruler committs kufr and is labelled is a kafir, you can overthrow him if you have the means and as long as it doesnt leave to a greater evil!
what is worst then an act of kufr? nothing; because kufr alkbar removes you from islam!
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Salamu Alaykum Rahima i shall end with this, I am not a scholar but someone who is in consistant search of Ilm,
i asked Dr Saleh Saleh( by the way student of the Late shaykh 'Uthaymin) concerning our little argument!
Salafi_Online: salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa baarakatu, Oh Shaykh it is from the manhaj of the salaf to overthrow a rule who commits kufr al asghar?
fairness-1: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Salafi_Online: please shaykh explain to me why
Salafi_Online: there are so many who advocate this
Salafi_Online: * ruler not rule inshallah
fairness-1: These are Takfeeris and
Haakimiyyah devients
fairness-1: lesser Kufr are acts of disobedience brother
Salafi_Online: so if he oppresses we should be patient, even if we have the ability to ovethrow him, even though i believe a ruler would never oppress if we have the ability to defend ourselves
Salafi_Online: akhee so if he oppress the believers, we should be patient, due to the hadith of the messenger of Allah(saw)" be patient until you meet me at the pond" right shaykh?
fairness-1: yes
Salafi_Online: tayyib baarakallahu feek
fairness-1: even if "he beats you and take your wealth"
fairness-1: as the Prophet , sallaah Allaahu 'aleihi was-sallam
Salafi_Online: khair inshallah
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Salamu alaykum
First im sorry if I have offend you in a way, I seek your forgives and that of Allah! I ask that Allah overlooks my infinite shortcomings and keeps me on the path of the salaf!
The answer to you question is simple,
It is not from the manhaj of the salaf Us Salih to rebel, backbite or fight a Muslim ruler until one condition is met,which is; until that muslim becomes a kafir!
The proof for that is the hadith of the messenger of Allah(saw) “do not fight him except when he shows clear kufr which your have prove from Allahâ€
And the Salaf placed a condition on this hadith, which we do not rebel against the rulers until we have the means and that it doenst not result in a great evil! We both agree here!
And you can not fight a ruler or rebel against him, on any sin lesser then kufr, based on the Hadith of the messenger of Allah,†who ordered the companions not to kill a ruler who establish prayer outside of its fixed time†and he also orderedd the ummah to obey and hear their rulersâ€even if they stole their wealth and beat their backâ€
These are all sound hadith I accept and affirm! You on the other hadith resort to the very unclear and general fatwah by Bin Baaz! Its fine, however sister Rahima please and I plea to you, answer following question pertaining to bin Baaz’s fatwah!
The fatwah says this, “If this group which wants to get rid of this ruler who is openly committing kufr is able to do so, and can bring in a good and righteous leader without that leading to greater trouble for the Muslims or a greater evil than the evil of this ruler, then that is OKâ€
It clearily says a ruler who is opently commiting kufr!so...
What is the difference between a kafir and someone who commits kufr but is not a kafir? Since in reality they are both committing kufr(disbelieve)?
Again it is not from the manhaj of the Salaf us salih to rebel or overthrow an oppressive ruler( key word is oppressive) until he shows clear kufr(kufr alAkbar) and we have the means to do so, which does not result in greater evil!This is what islam says, not what you claim!
This is what i have been saying for the past 10 pages!
I thought i shed some light on this greater and lesser evil thing!
there are two scenerios
when the ruler oppresses, but does not have the ability to cause haram to the subject physically! his oppression could be via Ruling with man laws!
and second oppressin is harming the muslims physically and harm their interest!
In the first case, the rulers is not dumb, is most likely to listen to his subject because he knows they might rebel, prove for this is, the messenger of Allah(saw) when he conquered Mecca, he wanted to change the House of Allah, and make more doors, but he was afraid of the people he refrain from doing it, but when ibn Zubayr because governor he said"I am not afraid of the people so i will build it"
he is not likely he would oppress them physically if they have the power to defend themselves! its like a buddy he only picks on those who are weaker then him! and befriends those who are equal or stronger then him!
in the second scenerio, the ruler has more power then the subject, and he can crush them with a single blow, so no matter what they do, it will result in a greater evil!
When it comes to a ruler, these are the only opinions! either the ruler will fear the people and his position, so he will comply with their demands! or the ruler is too powerful and the people must comply with his demands!So this nagates your option of" can we overthrow a ruler if we have the ability and it will not result in a greater evil" the ruler will not leave his post willingly, so he has to be removed by force! thus either he has the power to crush you, if not he will comply with your demands, because he knows staying in power is better then not having any power at all!
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the funny thing though, you admit you have minimal knowledge, and yet you differ with with the people who have lots of knowledge like shaykh Fawzan, and muqbil who explained what he say in Saudi Arabia, and he is aware of the riba banks and praised them, and shaykh Alanjarree who is from the kibar( but i suppose you reject their kaalam because it is not in accordance with your views)! and i can refute you that having riba in the banks is merely a sin, which does not revoke a land from being upon the shariyah! As long as they carry out the HUddudd< punishment for sins committed! this ribb'a isa sin and its upon the rulers,while the people are not compeled to put their money in these banks! they can cash it and store it in a safe! So the fact that you again oppose the scholars is no suprise!resorting to your miminal knolwedge!
i go this from the webpage you posted!
some scholars say about the remove of the khalifah "Be patient, and let him lead, to avoid Muslim bloodshed. This is the strongest opinion: the majority of the ahl-ul-hadith and scholars of the Sunnah advocate this view including Malik, Ash-Shafi'i, and Ahmad." do u follow Ahlul Hadith?? while all the others who advocate rebellion are from the Khalaf!
Salaf what kind of an example is that, The prophet foretold the coming of the khawarij and the adviced that we fight them! not to just sit and do nothing!
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Rahima you said in one of your post that you followed the Quran and sunnah according to the salaf us Salih! interestingly enough your kaalam opposes everything they said! if you feel you did not oppose them, then by all means shed some ligh on them! here is where they oppose you and you oppose them!
Ibn Abee Shaibah (Rahimahullaah) said, “Ibn ‘Uyainah narrated to us from Ibraaheem
ibn Maisarah from Taawoos who said, ‘The Rulers were mentioned in the presence of
Ibn ‘Abbaas and a man amongst them began to censure them. He continued to
arrogate himself, standing and stretching out his neck in doing this until I did not see
in the House (i.e., the Haram) a man taller than him. Then I heard Ibn ‘Abbaas say,
‘Do not make yourself a trial for a wrongdoing people.’ Then the man constricted
himself and I did not see in the House a man shorter than him.†[Musannaf, 15/75]
Imaam Ahmed (Rahimahullaah) said, “Ninety men from among the Taabi’een, the
scholars of the Muslims and of the Salaf and the Jurists of the various cities are
(unanimously) agreed that the Sunnah upon which the Messenger of Allaah sallaahu
alaihi wa sallam died is:
Having patience under the banner of the one in authority, in whatever condition he
may be in, just or unjust and that That we do not set out (in revolt) against the Rulers with the sword, even if they are unjust and oppressive.†[usool us-Sunnah]
and this,i mean i got thousands of quotes from teh salaf!
Imaam Aboo Bark al-Aajurree (d.360H Rahimahullaah) said: ‘‘It is not permissible for
the one who sees the uprising of a khaarijee who has revolted against the leader,
whether he is (a) just or oppressive (leader) - so this person has revolted and gathered a
group behind him, has pulled out his sword and has made lawful the killing of
Muslims - it is not fitting for the one who sees this, that he becomes deceived by this
person’s recitation of the Qur‘aan, the length of his standing in Prayer, nor his
constant fasting, nor his good and excellent words in knowledge when it is clear to him
that this person’s way and methodology is that of the Khawaarij.’’ [Refer to ash-
Sharee’ah (p. 28)]
and then From Uthaymin talking about the fitnah in Algeria&Bin Baaz
"Are view is that its wajib(obligatory)upon them to put down their weapons and to meet in peace. and If not then they must endure the continuance of those who fight and take their wealth by force and rape women. Since they are responsible for it in front of Allah and the obligatory them to come back!
Shaykh Albani speak about the algarian fitnah
We support everyone who calls for the refutation of those who come out against the rulers and those who encourage the muslims in going out against them!
Shaykh Bin Baaz"If anyone from among the callers of algeria said about me, that i said" Assassinate the police or use weapons in the call of Allah', then this is wrong, its not true, rather its a lie"
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Sister Rahima when you where in IslamQ&A
why didnt you post this
Shaykh Abdul-Azeez ibn Baaz,
was asked, "Is it from the manhaj (methodology) of the Salaf to criticise the Rulers from the mimbar (the pulpit)? And what is the manhaj of the Salaf with respect to advising the Rulers?" He responded:
"It is not from the manhaj of the Salaf to publicise the faults of the Rulers and to mention such things from the pulpit because that leads to confusion, disorder and the absence of hearing and obeying the ruler in what is good. It also results in (the people) becoming engrossed (with these matters, arguing and debating) which causes harm and produces no benefit. The followed path with the Salaf, however is to give naseehah (advice) with respect to the matters which are between themselves and the leader, writing to him or by reaching him through the scholars who keep in touch with him (to advise him) until the ruler is directed towards the good. Repelling the evil occurs without mentioning the doer of the evil. So fornication, drinking of intoxicants and the taking of usury are curbed without mentioning the one who does such things. Warding off the evil and warning and the people against it is sufficient without it being mentioned that such and such a person does it, whether he is a ruler or other than the ruler.
And when the fitnah occurred in the time of 'Uthmaan, some of the people said to Usaamah ibn Zaid , "Will you not speak to 'Uthmaan?" So he replied, "You think that I will not talk to him without letting you know about it (also). Indeed, I will certainly talk to him regarding that which concerns me and him without initiating a matter which I do not love to be the first to initiate."
And when they (the Khawaarij) opened up the evil in the time of 'Uthmaan and rejected 'Uthmaan openly, the fitnah, the killing and the mischief, which has not ceased to affect the people to this day, was brought about And this caused the fitnah to occur between 'Alee and Mu'aawiyyah and 'Uthmaan was killed for these reasons.
(Furthermore) a large number of Companions and other besides them were killed due to this open rebellion and the open proclamation of the faults (of the ruler), until the people began to hate the one charged with authority over them and killed him. We ask Allaah for success." End of the words of the Shaykh.
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What Salafi Online is trying to convince us is you can use the 'lesser/greater evil' rule to invite Kufar troops to the holy land but the same rule cannot used to remove the Kufr leaders. How comes this rules applies to every aspect of our faith except when it comes to removing the tyranical rulers?perhaps there is a communication breakdown,
I do not accept the kufars being stationed in any of the muslim lands! I dont like that, and i have never justified it! however if the rulers decided to do it, and we have the ability we advice them then we do so, if they accept we say Alhamdulillah, if they refuse we say Alhamdulillah! Yet we do not remove our hand of bedience from them!
posted by rahima:You seem so dead set on tarnishing anyone who disagrees with you on any matter that it’s almost sad. I wonder, how do you all handle disagreements amongst yourselves? Do you all give each other labels? I mean do you ever become Salafi_online al-....?Hahah; Yea in issues of Aqeeda,im dead set on tarnishing anyone who disgrees with us on Aqeeda, not any matter( by Allah thats a lie, for the sake of Allah you should take that back) you do believe that some muslims are deviant, you even stated in one of your other threads, "the islamic state" that the author at times quotes deviant groups!(care to tell us what makes them deviant?)
sister, and i mentioned this over over and over again,i have nothing against you, i love your for the sake of Allah, for your manhaj, for your Aqeeda, though its sometimes questionable where you stand on innovation and their people! Albani says niqab is not wajib, Uthaymin differs with him, yet they do not refute each other claim one is wrong and we should not listen to him, rather they accept his point of view since it is based on the text(quran and sunnah!) but For Ibn JIbreen the scholars got mad and were upset someone like him would do something like that! They dont agree with his fatwah, and they told him to retract his words! You though are bend on following him, since his fatwah on merely ijtihad, not even from Quran and sunnah! but thats up to you, i never opposed you on that!
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Sister i tried to answer your questions please to me the courtesy and answer mine at the bottom of the page!
Also I accepted much more from you, Subhanallah, at least you could have answered some of my questions but you went on a tangent! for example i explain to you that the hadith of the messenger of Allah and the fatwa of Bin Baaz when in the general sense which needs to be look in a deeper depth! because if we to take the Hadiht of the Messenger of Allah it mentions we fight in when we see clear Kufr, however its does not say if there is greater evil refrain from this! we do not get this from the hadith
Likewise the fatwah of Bin Baaz does not mention wheter the Ruler is ignorant of his actions or acting upon Knowledge or wheter his sin is lying or killing! also i agree when he committs kufr with conditions ofcourse, so no need to keep going over this! i have been saying this from the get go, overthrowing him due to sins do u know how general this( what kind of sins, if he swore do we overthrow him) he is lies do we overthrow him)! let me give you and example to clear up your mind
for example the foremore Mufi of Saudi Arabia Shaikh Muhammad bin Ibrahim ussies a fatwah on ruling by other then Allah where he said whoever does that is a Sheer Kafir!Then Everyone stated used this fatwah as a source of prove; Shyakh Bin Baaz, and Shaykh Fawzan said, this is corrupt for people to say and use this fatah which is based on the general meaning! one's needs to get more specific! and they both go on explaining the conditions and rulers from many angles!
Therefore i will ask you a question based on that fatwa, can we overthrow a ruler who is commint kufr out of ignorant when he simple needs to be advice?
second its funny Wallah how you utilize Difference of Opinion in your reply! Do you know what difference of opinion mean! it means scholars differ on a issue where they both have prove from quran and Hadith, like Th niqab example you gave,this is called Difference of opinion!because prove from the text for both argument exist! however Overthrowing a Ruler is not a matter of different of opinion rather is an issue of Aqeeda and manhaj these are issues no scholar differs on!
As for your fatwah of ibn JIbreen i have already example what the scholars said about his, as he is not inffalable! He is still a salafi and i affirm his salafiyah, however i firmly believe he has errored in his fatwa!It is not I who says he has errored, But over 10 Shaykh, Formost Rabee' and Ubayd Jabiree, Zaid Madhakhali, Yahyah AnJaaree! it was not I who spoke out against him! As forthe speech of ABu bakr i have already addresssed that, did you not read it! scroll up and refute me, if im wrong i will admit my mistakes and repent!
ABout Shaykh Raabee'As Sunnah The Imam of Ja'h wa Ta'deel, sister nice try though, the shaykh says this;
I got this from the fatwah:
(1)That the Northern Alliance are greater disbelievers than the Yahood and Nasaaraa, and it is vile alliance, a gathering of Baatiniyyah, Rawaafid, Communists, Atheists, Secularists and Socialists(later down the page...)the Taliban are better than Ikhwan ul-Muslimeen, those who are linked with the Northern Alliance, such as the likes of as-Sayyaaf, and ar-Rabbaani.
Notice how he didnt make takfir of the Ikhwan Muslimeen!not only that he says
"Why did the Islaamic Jama'aat not announce that fighting this alliance is from Jihaad, despite the fact that this alliance has been in existence for over five years??"
here you affirm this here!
that Sh. Rabee’ states that to fight the northern alliance (&Americans) is jihad and this fatwa was at the time when Afghanistan was been invaded by the Americans (pay attention to the date, it was at the exact time when the occupation was taking place).thanx for point out the date of the fatwah, so Where they allies with the kufar five years prior to this fatwah??
Notice here
(2) That the Taliban are the best of those present in the Afghani plains, and that they are a thousand million times better than the Northern Alliance - and that Shaykh Rabee' himself advised the adherents to the way of the Pious Predecessors in Kunar and elsewhere to co-operate with the Taliban, and that this is better than showing enmity to them, alongside what they have of errors.
note:
[NOTE: The advice of Shaykh Rabee' to co-operate with the Taliban was said to be in the early stages of the Talibans' takeover, to the nephew of Shaykh Jameel ur-Rahmaan, and not recently, as the impression might be given from the above. This matter was made clear to us by one of the brothers Jazaa-Hullaahu Khayr.]
first i never called you names, I dont understand why you take things out of context, you say you follow the salaf, i posted lots of quote from the salaf, you sidestepped, and come out with some strange view which, i quoted Hadith you also sidestepped!If this is not from the manners and characterist of the hypocrites i do not know what is! and this is erhaps from what you have of knowelge its due to ignorant!
can you overthrow a ruler who sins? cause ever ruler sins?
can you overthrow a ruler who committs kufr out of ignorance, for example a ruler comes into power, and he swear on the quran, can we over throw him? based on that kufr? or show we simply advice him?
Second what do u make of this hadith
There will be, after me, leaders that will not seek guidance from my
guidance, nor will they follow my Sunnah. There will be among them men with hearts
of devils in the bodies of people. ‘
I said, ‘What should I do, oh Messenger of Allaah, if I reach that time?’
He said: ‘Listen to and obey your leader even if he beats your back and your wealth is
taken – listen and obey.’†[Reported by Bukhaaree, Muslim, Ibn Majah, al-Bayhaaqee]
Also sister what do you mean the salaf did not have the power to overthrow Alhajaj, are you serious, do u know Zubayr was the ruler of Mecca, and he had his army! not only that back then fighting was very primitive, so must people had access to weapons! and these are the companions, truly Allah with them! BUt they did not fight because they were commanded by their messenger not to fighter their rulers!
question,
the Companions asked
permission from the Messenger of Allaah (swallallahu alaihi wasallam) for killing the
leaders (Umaraa’) who delay the prayer from its proper time, saying, ‘Shall we not kill
them.’ So he said, “No, so long as they establish the prayer,†and he also said,
“Whoever sees something from his leader (ameer) something that he dislikes then let
him be patient and let him not raise his hand (away) from the leader’s obedience"
explain this to me, the messenger of Allah already mentioned we can fight them if they commit kufr(the salaf and the scholars illustrated the conditions to this hadith, they did not take it for face value), and in the above is this not in relation to sins? Allah said Woe to those who delay Salah, from their fixed time! Subhnallah this is a enormous sin! So according to you we should overthrow him, and according to our messenger we should be patient! what do u say about this?
Further as much as you like me to be, i do not belong to a group, I follow the Salaf i do not turn left or right! i do not belong to a Hizbiyah! if Salafipublication.com and troid.org contradicts the scholars due to whims and the prove is establish upon them, i will not do taqlid!, my post are all from the scholars! if i took their fatwa out of context or misunderstood them, and the knowledge is with you, then by All means shed some light on the quotation and clearify any misconceptions! most of your are taken out of context, i always took the time to explain them and put them in their correct context! You on the other have not!
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Almost any problem in the public sphere could be lessened by a government fully applying the principles of Islam. Just compare the Khilafa Rashidun to the poor excuses for governments ruling the Muslim world today.Abdullahi Do u knwo why the People Rebelled against Ali(ra)? Did they not claim he was not ruling by the Laws of Allah! Subhanallah this is Ali(RA)! Why was Uthman Killed? do you know? Do u know why Umar was killed? i assure you it was not for the sake of splitting blood!
Personally, I’m confused about the state of the Muslims, the problem is so large and saddening that if the solution was left in my hands I wouldn’t even know where to begin.Interested point, a while back you where adamant about the kindom NOt ruling by the Shariyah, yet if the ball was in your court you wouldnt even know where to begin! if you have no knowledge to begin with, how can u tell when someone is not ruling by the laws of Allah?!? :confused:
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^^Even the Abuu Bakr quote brother Salafi wanted you to post goes like this:"O people The strong among you is weak in my sight, so that I shall excat from him what is due. And the weak among you is strong in my sight, so I shall excat to him what is due to him. Obey me as long as I obey God! But if I disobey God you no longer owe me obedience."brother Ayub how do u understand this hadith!
what if i said, This saying means, if he orders you to do something which results in him and the people disobeying Allah then one should not obey him! this is how i understand it!
i put forward an example, Abu Bakr would tell the people to take Riba! is he not disbeying Allah here? so the people are not obliged to obey him here!there is no obedience to the creature when there is disbodience to the creator!
another example!
Abu Bakr swore, or maybe he neglected salatul Fajr one morning! these are clear Disobedience! after All ABu Bakr is only human, so its natural for him to sin! and we all know sining stems from disobeying Allah! therefore since he swore or missed fajr, therefore one can not conclude that his authority is invalid because he was sinner and he has disobeyed Allah! In that case, no HUman being would be Obeyed since every human is proned to disobeying Allah!
Wallahi BRother Ayub And Sister Rahima and any other Person who is reading this if you reject this Hadith! then who im I to convince you when teh Messenger of Allah(saw) can't do it himself!
‘There will be, after me, leaders that will not seek guidance from my
guidance, nor will they follow my Sunnah. There will be among them men with hearts
of devils in the bodies of people. ‘
I said, ‘What should I do, oh Messenger of Allaah, if I reach that time?’
He said: ‘Listen to and obey your leader even if he beats your back and your wealth is
taken – listen and obey.’†[Reported by Bukhaaree, Muslim, Ibn Majah, al-Bayhaaqee]
these Rulers do not even follow the Guidance or sunnah< what is more evil then That, if they are not following the guidance and sunnah, then they are acting upon other then it! and what is the oppose if the sunnah! and they have people who's heart is that of the devil as advisors!
Yet we are required to obey them!
We have free will, Brother Ayub do as you wish, like was rahima, do as you wish! our account is with Allah!
All this was not necessary, it was just a matter of hearing and obeying the messenger(sallalahu alayhi wa salam)
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Sister Rahima I wish you would stop speak without knowledge! Follow the salaf and do not innovate,stopped where they stopped! What was sufficient for them is sufficient for you!
I will make this brief!
Your wrote!
I speak of Abu bakr, you negate his point and come with the views of people who came after him (not that I disagree with what they say, but rather your understanding of the point). Maybe one of these days the points of the sahaba shall be enough for you .you sure? I think u need to go read my post again! I asked you to post it so that I can take a look at it! i was not positive of what he said, thats why my post was very vague! cheap shot though!
Osama, unlike the royal family was not fighting against fellow Muslims. I find this amusing though, the Saudi scholars (may Allah bless them), denounced the actions of the northern alliance (rightly so) for aiding the kuffaar (USA) against fellow Muslims, yet when there government did the same (aided the kufaar, again the USA against Muslims, the people of Iraq) they did not speak out. I have to say, very confusing, nevertheless it has to be for reasons of avoiding a great fitnah (regardless of what you may believe or think, i will not get into the bashing of scholars even if i disagree with their view point). I can only but imagine if they spoke out against the regime, a revolt at this time would only be beneficial to the enemies of Islam. Moroever, the royal family is only praised by the saudi scholars, you will not find any other salafi scholar outside of SA doing that. We admit that they do many good things for Islam, but they also harm Islam.Few thing!
do u know why the Saudi Bash the northern Alliance? Its not because they aided the kufar( I don’t think they care) if so prove it! Prove it!if you cant you remain silent of that which you have no knowledge of! not one single proof the Saudi scholars bash them cause they aid the kufar, instead the Norther Alliance are shiayoon(Walacadubillah)! and Shia are the enemies of the Sunnah, are u suprised they would aid the Kufar!
Shaykh Muqbil(rahimullah) is not from Saudiyah, he is Yemeni and resided in Yemen! Perhaps you do not know Shaykh Muqbil and you speak without knowledge!Itaqillah
Its interesting how you take from the scholars of Saudi or anyone for that matter as long as they agree with your view! If it is not in accordance with your view they are wrong as far as your concerned! if Bin Baaz defends Salman and Safar you jump on his his banwagen! if he praises His government, This is a no no he is clearily wrong! If Uthaymin praises Hasan Albana, you will quote him at will, because here it suits your needs, but God forbid if he praises his government! you wil never quote him for this! I do not know your personaly, but this is only from what i witness from your post, as long as they agree with you opinions it all good, you will quote them, but if they dont they somehow made a mistake!
“If this group which wants to get rid of this ruler who is openly committing kufr is able to do so, and can bring in a good and righteous leader without that leading to greater trouble for the Muslims or a greater evil than the evil of this ruler, then that is OK.â€You highlighted this part,its a significant point!So let me ask you this What is the difference between the above quote and this
The Companions asked the Prophet sallaahu alaihi wa salam, “O Messenger of Allaah!
When you mentioned that there will be rulers, ‘you will approve of some things from
them, and disapprove of others things.â€
They said: “So what do you command us to do?â€
He said: ‘‘Give them their right, and invoke Allaah, since He is with you.’’
’Ubaadah (radiyallaahu ’anhu) said: ‘‘We gave the oath of allegiance to the Messenger
of Allaah sallahu alaihi wa sallam that we would not oppose the command, not its
people.’’ He said: ‘‘Except if you were to see clear disbelief (kufran bawaahan) about which you have a proof from Allaah.’’ Related by Muslim (6/17)
You would agree the "proof from Allah" here is the Quran and Hadith! So what is the difference between bin baaz’s fatwah and this hadith! Didn’t I not say you can fight a person who committs kufr! go and revise my post!
Just in case you pull a fast one; Inshalalh I shall cover my tracks!
a person who commits open kufr is not necessary a kafir nor do we hold him accountable for his kufr until we inform him of his actions, since he might be doing this out of sheer ingnorance, perhaps he was he was taught this and knows no better, after all he people of ILM!(in generality )! Thus its upon the people of knowledge to advice that person! But after the advice/ (lets say knowledge) reaches him, however he insist on this kufr and remains consistant, then no matter what he is sheer Kafir who has left islam( why; because he is now acting upon knoweldge and not ignorance)! a person who commits kufar without knowlege is not blameworthy, until knowledge reaches him! So your fatwah is general, as general as the hadith is ! So if anyone is speaking without knowledge my sister, it aint me!
Is the Shaykh referring to the one who committs open Kufr and left islam after knoweldge reached him! or the one who committs kufr openly due to sheer ignorance and lack of knowledge, and yet is a muslim! This is why you must get more specific!
according to you, we would have to kill Abdullahi Yusef and all those people who swore on the Quran! this is clear kufr!(irregardless of his past sins) this act alone would get him killed! Sis Dont be so quick on the trigger my sister!
Islam allows for the overthrow of a leader (the decision being made by the influential people of authority and power) so long as there is no greater fitnah that will come of it. You disagree with this point which is based on the teachings of our prophet s.c.w.I don’t know if its lack of knowledge on your behalf (in that you’ve never heard this before) or you sincerely believe we have to always put up with any leader even if they wipe out every single believer (because technically killing does not take one out of the fold of Islam).this is another rabbish with all due respect, based on the teaching of the prophet right! then why dont we see a hadith or even a quotation from salaf! Empty words thrown on the scene! This habit of yours is truly a bore!
Did you read what the salaf did during the reign of AlHajaja?!? '
here have a read!
"And similarly, Banoo al-‘Abbaas, they conquered the lands of the Muslims forcefully, with the sword - and not one of the People of Knowledge and Religion aided them in that - and they killed hordes of people and many of the creation from among the Banoo 'Umayyah, their leaders and their deputies. And they killed Ibn Hubayrah, the ameer of 'Iraaq and they also killed Marwaan, the khaleefah - and it was reported that the murderers killed around eighty people from the Banoo 'Umayyah in a single day - and then they placed their blankets above the corpses, sat upon them and then called for food and drink.So along with all of that the conduct of the leading scholars - such as al-‘Awzaa’ee, Maalik, al-Layth ibn Sa’d, ‘Ataa Ibn Abee Rabaah - with those kings is not hidden from the one who has a share in knowledge and realization. And then next generation of the People of Knowledge such as Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Muhammad Ibn Ismaa’eel, Muhammad Ibn Idrees, Ahmad Ibn Nooh, Ishaaq Ibn Rahawayh and their brothers … their occurred in their time what occurred from the kings of the great innovations and the denial of the Sifaat (Attributes of Allaah) and they were called to [affirm] these things and were put to trial by them] and whoever was killed, was killed such as Ahmad Ibn Nasr. But along with all of this it is not known that a single one of them raised his hand against obedience [to those kings] and that he saw fit to attack them…""Do u follow these salaf!Alhajaja was worst then any ruler we have seen! he Killed the companions; some of the best people who walked on earth" perhaps you follow them, the knowledge is with Allah,BUt your post do not indicate such! Following the salaf is not mere speech my sister, rather is following and micmicing their way and habits as much as your able! Aight!
What is tedious is that you are praising (it would be one thing if you kept silent on the matter), leaders who are tyrants.Praising? All I said was obey the rulers if they are muslim, and one should not rebel not matter how oppressive they are unless they commit clear kufr! And if they do show kufr, fight them when you have the ability to do so! if Is this praising? Then lets see who else is praising them!
Lets see
Look did the messenger of Allah praise them?
He(saw) also said,
“Whoever sees something from his leader (ameer) something that he dislikes then let
him be patient and let him not raise his hand (away) from the leader’s obedience.â€
According to you the prophet just praised a tyrant ruler!
‘There will be, after me, leaders that will not seek guidance from my
guidance, nor will they follow my Sunnah. There will be among them men with hearts
of devils in the bodies of people. ‘
I said, ‘What should I do, oh Messenger of Allaah, if I reach that time?’
He said: ‘Listen to and obey your leader even if he beats your back and your wealth is
taken – listen and obey.’†[Reported by Bukhaaree, Muslim, Ibn Majah, al-Bayhaaqee]
The prophet(saw) just praised a tyrant ruler!
The Prophet said, “Listen and obey, even if the ruler seizes you and beats your back.†Related by Muslim (6/19)
Not again!
Al Barbahaaree (d. 329H) also said, "It is not permissible to fight the ruler or rebel against him even if he oppresses. This is due to the saying of the Messenger of Allah (salallaahu'alayheewasallam) to Abu Dharr al Ghifaaree, "Have patience, even if he (i.e. the Ameer) is an Abyssinian slave," (Reported by Muslim.)
Not again, even a salaf, just praised him!
Did u see this?
Abud-Dardaa (radhiallaahu anhu) said, “Beware of cursing the Rulers (Wullaat), for
verily, cursing them is clipping (i.e., of the religion) and hating them is barrenness.†It
was said, ‘0 Aboo Dardaa, then how should we behave when we see in them that which
we do not like?’ He said, “Have patience, for verily, when Allaah sees that from you
He will take them away from you with death.†[As-Sunnah, 2/488]
Poor Abu Darda, just praised the oppressive ruler!
About this
Hudayfah (Ra)replied: If Allaah has on Earth a caliph who flays your back and takes your property, obey him, otherwise die holding onto the stump of a tree.
isnt his not exactly what i have been trying to convey! Subhanallah sister the salaf are sufficient for me!
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Zaynab where were you born and raised?
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Innalhamdulillah; Very All praises belongs to Allah!
Brother nur I have few Question inshallah!
Swearing by the Quran? Would this not constitute swearing by other then Allah! Is this not shirk or at least a replication of the lowest of mankind!
As for your Quiz inshallah here is my answer
Allah knows best!
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Ya Akhi, Baarakallahu feekum, you can find the complete book online inshallahu ta'ala, mashallah, by our imam the Muthadith Al Albani!
on a side note, that was a sick jam!!!!