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  3. Posted

    Originally posted by TheSomaliEconomist:

    Wishful thinking.

     

    when Mogadishu becomes a solid and renewed capital and the farms of the south is activated no so called 'somalilander' will call for independence but unity. If you don't believe me just wait and see for yourself in the coming 20 years.

    Wishful thinking huh lol....

  5. Posted

    At the end of the day..I am in favour of Somaliweyn considering Mogadisho home to me.

     

    I Been to Somaliland for the first time..Just couple of years ago and returned twice after that. Its obvious the people over there want absolutely nothing to do with the rest of somalia.

     

    I support Somaliland independence because that's what the people want, its simple as that...You have to give the people what they want.

     

     

    If I was on the other side..I will quickly let these people go. I'll hate to make people that don't want to be part of us to join us.

  6. Posted

    Originally posted by Garaad:

    if it is the Hijab was to be banned, that unacceptable and untoleratable, but if is the veil yes i agree it has to be banned since it has no plce in our culture and also no where in the Quran and Haddis it says women has to veil their faces.

    No place in your culture therefore it should be banned?Hahaha..Pathetic &*#%RE@W$%$#@.

     

    I swear to Allah these TFG supporters are most &%$$#$%R#$%# in the face of earth.

  9. Posted

    Originally posted by Captain Xalane:

    quote:Originally posted by NGONGE:

    Who are the defeated lot here? The people from Puntland? The people from the capital? Somalis in general?

     

    Ngonge,the Clan court movement and their co are the defeated lot.They represented no area and thus,represented only themselves.Again,the wasted clan court movement is the Defeated lot!
    Say if they represented an area...Would that have changed things?

  10. Posted

    Originally posted by Violet:

    quote:Originally posted by Tone:

    quote:
    Originally posted by Violet:

    quote:
    your signature chooses to wipe off an entire country

    You mean Somaliland? Well, technically, it's still apart of Somalia and until the two sides sit down and work things out, that's how it shall remain. That doesn't mean I hate Somaliland, I understand why Somalilanders would want to leave the union and I honestly have no problem with it.

     

    Abaayo, its one thing to dislike the TFG..you even have the right to dislike President Abdullahi, but to you say that his clan doesn't care about Somalis or Somalia and you dislike them..Don't you think that's taking it a bit far?
    Work what out? lol...Somaliland people made it clear they wont ever go back. You people need to let your wishful thinking go.
    They have a lot to work out, like the situation in SSC.
    Just stop posting all together....Thanks

  11. Posted

    Originally posted by Violet:

    quote:
    your signature chooses to wipe off an entire country

    You mean Somaliland? Well, technically, it's still apart of Somalia and until the two sides sit down and work things out, that's how it shall remain. That doesn't mean I hate Somaliland, I understand why Somalilanders would want to leave the union and I honestly have no problem with it.

     

    Abaayo, its one thing to dislike the TFG..you even have the right to dislike President Abdullahi, but to you say that his clan doesn't care about Somalis or Somalia and you dislike them..Don't you think that's taking it a bit far?
    Work what out? lol...Somaliland people made it clear they wont ever go back. You people need to let your wishful thinking go.

  14. Posted

    Originally posted by Violet:

    quote:Originally posted by SOO MAAL:

     

     

    Reading between the lines, organisers and orchestrators of these activities, for example those demonstrations against the Ethiopian invasion and the ailing president were probably the same characters that were divided among themselves along clan lines when the warlords were causing mayhem in Mogadishu, but have now found unity and reason d’etre thanks to an alien intervention. Also, it may well be that those who were honouring the president were mainly from Abdullahi Yusuf’s lineage and relatives and some characters from other communities who have political ambition and wanted to be closer to his “Excellency entourage.” Hence the meetings were not inclusive. In addition, those braving the cold, demanding an ever elusive recognition for an entity they called “Somaliland” are probably from the same clans or lineages but would like to portray and show the world that their cause is an inclusive project for a legitimate self-determination when a large numbers of people in the Northern regions of Somalia are against the secession project.

    That's the truth.
    "when a large numbers of people in the Northern regions of Somalia are against the secession project."

     

     

    ^^^^

     

    That's the truth? lol

  16. Posted

    - After Saudi Arabia last month surprisingly lifted its damaging 2001 ban on the import of live livestock from the Horn of Africa, a lucrative export trade has been revived. But this has sent Djibouti and non-recognised Somaliland into a new fight over becoming the region's leading export harbour, with Djibouti even expelling Somalilander diplomats.

     

    Apart from Djibouti, Somaliland's city of Berbera is the only port on the northern coast of the Horn able to serve land-locked Ethiopia, with its large trade on a regional scale. The small state of Djibouti - which has its greatest revenues from its port facilities - is best connected with the Ethiopian hinterland; by road and train, but relations between Djibouti and Addis Ababa are not always the best.

     

    With the December lift of Saudi Arabia's 5-year livestock import ban from the Horn region, trade passing through the ports of Djibouti and Berbera are expected to boom. Before the ban was announced in 2000, livestock was among the main export goods from Ethiopia, Djibouti and Somalia/Somaliland.

     

    As soon as the ban was lifted, Djibouti authorities announced that their diplomacy had plaid a vital part in achieving this aim. The Saudis and other Arab nations officially had imposed the ban in 2001 after an outbreak of Rift Valley Fever among cattle, but critics claim that the outbreak had never occurred on the Horn. Also the exceptionally long ban indicated that it was rooted on protectionist policies.

     

    Several diplomatic efforts to have the ban lifted failed throughout the years, creating a crisis for the regional livestock industry. Livestock constitutes the backbone of the Somaliland economy and is essential to most rural communities in Djibouti, Ethiopia and Somalia, with Saudi Arabia historically being the main market.

     

    Djiboutian diplomats claimed they were to be thanked for the lifting of the Saudi ban. Djibouti had launched several proposals to assure animal health for exports to Arab nations. Therefore, the nation's Foreign Ministry held in December, other countries in the region should award Djibouti by using its port facilities to export livestock. Djibouti would now become a regional "hub for livestock exports," the Ministry said in a statement.

     

    At Djibouti port, the Ministry claimed, quality would be assured due to the August 2004 establishment of a quarantine centre with a veterinary clinic and laboratories. These modern US$ 6 million facilities would assure that another regional livestock would be avoided in future. Shortly after these statements, President Ismail Omar Guelleh inaugurated a new port terminal worth US$ 40 million, mainly aimed at serving Ethiopia's trade.

     

    Neighbouring Somaliland however for long has been suspicious on Djiboutian efforts to secure a monopoly situation for its port. Two years ago, Somaliland authorities accused Djibouti of trying to control its economy following a proposal by Djibouti aimed at making its ports a gateway for Somaliland's livestock exports to Arab Gulf countries.

     

    Somaliland's Berbera port is seen as the country's greatest potential for economic development, and only last week, port authorities disclosed they had made a purchase of US$ 640,000 worth of dock loading and stacking equipment used for lifting goods and container freight - one of the first major investments for around 20 years in this port.

     

    Answering the Djiboutian initiative to capitalise on the lifting of the Saudi ban, Somaliland authorities in December banned the sending of home-grown cattle to Djibouti for re-exportation. Somalilander livestock heading towards Saudi Arabia was to be shipped out from Berbera, authorities ordered.

     

    With its modest investments in the Berbera port, Somaliland also hopes to gain a part of the Ethiopian livestock export market. Ethiopia is not uninterested, as it currently has better ties with Hargeisa than with Djibouti, following the latter's low-profiled support for the defeated Somali Islamists.

     

    Underlining the seriousness in the harbour fight between the two neighbours, Djibouti immediately expelled Somalilander diplomats in what has been described as a tit-for-tat reaction. No country, not even Djibouti, officially recognises Somaliland, which nevertheless has diplomatic stations in most countries of the region.

     

    Indeed, without securing transit revenues from other livestock exporters, Djibouti is to gain little from the Saudi ban lifting. The Djiboutian livestock industry is in a deep crisis after years of drought. According to the US agency Famine Early Warning System Network (FEWS), the 'Heys/Dada' rains - which are essential for the viability of coastal dry season grazing areas - performed poorly also in November 2006.

     

    "These rains serve a vital function in the migration cycle of pastoralists," the latest FEWS report on Djibouti warned, noting that pastoralists were facing a crisis. "Successful recovery for pastoralist communities requires prevention of distress livestock sales and continued restocking over several consecutive seasons," the US agency added.

     

    Also in Somaliland and Ethiopia, the last few years have not been the best for pastoralists, but in large parts of these two countries, relatively sound stocks of livestock are still present, ready for exportation to the Saudi market.

     

    Exports of Somaliland livestock has started already. In late December, the first consignment of over 400,000 livestock heads were supposed to be exported to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, to coincide with the Hajj, whose rituals require that every pilgrim kill one sheep as a sacrifice. Reportedly, almost a quarter of these sheep had however been smuggled to Djibouti for re-export to Jeddah. Berbera port authorities have yet to report how many went through their facilities.

     

    Also Djibouti port authorities rapidly reported cattle export successes after the ban was lifted. Only four days after the lifting, over 10,000 livestock heads - of unclear origin - were shipped to Saudi Arabia. The port has been made ready to receive "thousands of animals on a daily basis originating from bordering countries," Djibouti port authorities state optimistically.

     

     

    http://www.afrol.com/articles/23556

  19. Posted

    Originally posted by NGONGE:

    ^^ Were all the Talibans and your beloved ICU as fond of hearsay and rumour as you are?

     

    How do you know that Abdullahi Yusuf gets the taxes from these 'illegal' drugs into his bank account?

     

    These days, the supporters of the ICU (on this site) are turning out to be shadier, more duplicitous and more partisan than those sharing a bed with the Ethiopians.
    :(

     

    A bloody shame really.

    Pick your side of the fence. Already...

  20. Posted

    Originally posted by B0B:

     

     

    I lost one of my childhood best friends and his entire family after the boat that was carrying them and hundred others capsized just few hundred miles off the port city of Mombasa and he was few days shy of his 11th Birthday.

     

     

    Wallahi I remember that. The boat came from Kismayo Via to Kenya(Mombasa)....We had family friend on that boat. The mother lost 6 of her children and she was the sole survivor from her family while the father was in Europe. Very small kids around my age all gone....This was back in 1991 I think.

  22. Posted

    Originally posted by Garaad:

    Ceergaabo & Buuhoodle!!! it is good to talk abt the truth and facts, not ur elusion and dreams,,, the only 2 city in s/land control are Hargesa and berbere,

    Yeah lets do talk about facts please...Why don't you take a trip to those areas this upcoming summer? Erigavo,Burco..and the rest of the areas you claim Somaliland not to control. Find out who controls where in the ground...