"Your ladies" dont be so paranoid, maybe thats why you hate the Pirates so much, money is quite an attraction these days, and the boys Eyl got plenty of money. As for not defending Riyaale, how can you he is an uneducated man who used to arrest and bully the SNM clan folk. Oops he still bullies and arrests the SNM groups and now they sing he is the man, much like they used to sing for Siyad Barre. Our leaders are once we belive in and we can always change them come election time.

Funny was he on a religious trip to the holly city of Harar or begging Melez for help.

Meiji: Adeer Al Shabaab fought the Ethiopians, you took credit. They fought the TFG, again you & Ahmed Diriye took credit. Now they have crushed the "Islamic courts" in a mater of days and have proven it was them and their allies led by Xasan Turki that were the muscle, all you were was the wailing victims who took credit. Now we wait for the fight back, 80% of Mogadishu as Juje can attest is in Al Shabaab, Ras Kamboni hands.

^^^Whats Riyaale's educational background, Aside from selling Qad & being and NSS spy? I know you envy the Pirate money, and hate the way the ladies love them but thats a small issue to us. Our President is a religious man, who is working hard to transform the state.

MMA: Adeer I have already outlined your main issues and problems. You suffer from an anti Puntland syndrome and this from observing you over the years. Inferiority complex aside yours is based on sheer ignorance and fake nationalisam that stems from the fact that you were surrounded by the stories of failed old individuals. Hence is it not fascinating that all the things you used to attack and accuse the ex President and legend are now being done by the weak and hapless men you supported. Who is coveting Ethiopian support, who can not run even their villages and have even sold the sea? As for the illiterate Sharif Xasan, a corrupt uneducated man you support him for what ever reason and it shows your measure as an individual and your understanding of Somali politics as a whole, which is weak, ill-informed and quite confused. Your main problem is a deep seated hatred for Puntland or the North East state of Somalia. That’s a problem you have to deal with and reconcile your fake outburst of nationalism and resentment towards 1/3 of Somalia.

This project insha Allah will give education a boost throughout Somalia

^^^Nothing to worry about, since our President Faroole is an honest devout religious man, who does not smoke or chew Qad and has an MBA. Unlike some in NW Somalia.

waxaan waa imaginary weeyaan, Markaad Kenya galaysid oo Soomaaliya ka soo baxaysid iyo markaad Kenya ka baxaysid oo Soomaaliya galaysid waa in aad ogsoon tahay calaamadda, xarriiqada meesha ay marayso, waayo hadda dawlad rasmi ah ayaan is tusaynaa in ay Soomaaliya ka dhalatay. Hawl galkeena wuu soo bixi doona. Laakiin xuduudaha labada dhinac maadama aysan talis ka jirin labada dhinacba, hadda war meeshii intee ahayd aan xarriiqno oo waddo yar aanu marino oo markaad ka baxaysid oo dhanka kale galaysid ilaa dadka ku nool labada dhinac waa dad isku beel ah, taas way dhacdaa adduunkoo dhan wax dhib ah oo aan u arko ma laha, dabcan wax kale oo aan aniga ogayn oo adinka ogtihiin mooyee. The issue the Speaker is talking about is the MOU. You ahve been sold a lie old boy and Somalia is worse for it. Kenya would like to clear up the "imaginary" border as he states :mad:

^^^ Meelkasta ayey taalaa UN-ka, latitude-kii iyo longitude-kii iyo bearing-kii oo dhan ayaa la hayaa (Dhigo, Lool iyo Xagasha ama jihada uu ku socdo xadku). Waa in sidaas loo xaqiijyo uun weeyaana, taasna waa dawladaha wax markastaba dhaca. Laakiin hadda wax cusub ma aha. Maadaama Soomaaliya aysan 18-sano dawlad ka jirin waxaa loo baahan yahay in meeshii xuduudku ahaa ee u horeysey hadda in la is tuso ayaa loo baahan yahay. You are talking about one thing Mr Farax the speaker is talking about another, he is saying we need to make the boundary clear. For some reason people forgot about the border because as he states above Somalia has had no government for 18 years and they needed to clear the boundries. You adeer are quoting some international agreemnt that seem to have little baring on the issue at hand VOA interview: audio

RR Maybe you are more insightful on this deal in comparison to the sell out Somali ooops Kenyan deputy speaker. Faarax Macallin, Guddoomiye Kuxigeenka Baarlamaanka Kenya, oo Shaaca Ka Qaaday in Heshiiska Dhexmaray Kenya iyo Soomaaliya La Saxiixay Dhawr Toddobaad Ka Hor... "...haddii aad tagtid Archive-ka ama Libreeriga Congress-ka Maraykanka waad heleysaa EXACTLY BEARING-ka (jihada xadku u socdo) oo ilaa inta uu qalin gaaro ku tusaysa, waa wax record-kii meesha jiro (Diiwaan). Marka wax la isku deyi karo in ducfiga Soomaali lagaga faa'iidaystaa ma aha, ninkii isku dayana khasaaro ayaa ka imanaysa." Faarax Macallin.. source RR: Nothing to do with your seabed and extra land claims. This is about Somalia's sea itself and the boundry we have with Kenya. :rolleyes:

^^^He is confused, he is not expert yet can tell the future gains for Somalia. Adeer the man is trying to defend Shiekh Hotel & Co for the biggest blunder in modern Somali history.

Sheegashada Kenya Qayb kamid ah Badda Soomaaliya Sida Kenya shaacisay xogteeda rasmiga ah ee Qalfoofka Qaaradda Baddeeda (Continental Shelf) waxaa kucad cabirkan aan soo aragnay in Kenya ay badda Soomaaliya ka goosatay (116,000km2) - waa cabbir aad u wayn oo aad loola yaabo, qofkastana uu is leeyahay macquul ma'ahan. Arintaasi waxay ku cadahay xogta rasmiga ah ee Qarammada Midoobay maanta shaacisay. Waxaa laga yaabaa in akhristuhu ku wareero akhbaartaan horay u siidaynay ee sheegaysay in Kenya cabiratay (38,000km2). Xogahaan oo dhan ma'ahan kuwo isdiidan ee waa xog laga soo xigtay dowlada Kenya Qoraalada rasmiga ah ee kasoo baxa (mid hordhac ah, iyo mid rasmi ah). Qoraalkii cilmi baarista waxaa kamid ahaa in Kenya ay gudbisatay March 10, 2009 xog hordhac ah oo Badda Soomaaliya ay gashay (38,000 sq.km) xogtaasna uu ku saxiixnaa Madaxwaynaha Dalka Kenya ee hada Mwai Kibaki , sidaas waxay ku qornaynd waraaqdii Mwai Kibaki ku saxiixnaa ee aan soo aragnay. Sidoo kale qoraalkaas waxaa lasocday in cilmi baaristu sheegtay qoraalka rasmiga ah ee Dowlada Kenya markay soo gudbisato ayaa la ogaanayaa cabirka kama danbaysta ah ee Kenya ay badda Soomaaliya ka cabbiranayso. Cabirkii Kama danbaynta ah ama qoraalkii rasmiga ahaa wuxuu cadeeyey in Kenya ay badda Soomaaliya ka goosatay dhul-badeed ah (116,000km2) - Arrintaas waxaa lagu soo koobi karaa oraahda ah : 38,000sq.km waxay ahayd tijaabo hordhac ah, 116,000sq.km waa rasmiga ay Kenya doonayso in loo sharciyeeyo. Kenya waxay ku andacootay in baddeedu ay soo dhex gasho badda Soomaaliya. Si ay arrintaas u qurxisna waxay tiri, sidoo kale badda Kenya waxay isdul fuulaan badda Tanzania, laakiin ayey tiri, Kenya iyo Tanzania waxay xadka badda ka heshiisyeen markii ay xog is dhaafsadeen 17 December 1975 iyo 9 July 1976. Sidaas daraadeena Kenya iyo Tanzania waxay heshiis ku ahaayeen xadka baddooda laga soo bilaabo 1976. (Hadalkii ugu horeeyey ee C/shakuur waxaa kamid ahaa Tanzania-na Kenya waa lasoo saxiixanaysaa asbuucan, hadana Kenya waxay leedahay horaan uga heshiinay). Kenya ayaa doodeeda ku dhisaysa in baddeeda iyo badda Soomaaliya isa soo dhexgalaan, taasna waxay ula jeedaa siday horay meelo kale ugu sheegtay in marka laga hadlayo aaga la kordhinayo ee Qalfoofka Qaaradda ay labadda dal cabirkoodu isku meel ku dhacayo, taasna waxaa keenay Kenya oo cabirkeeda usoo qaloocisay dhinaca bari, halkii laga rabay in cabirkeedu maro Koonfur Bari. Sidoo kale Kenya doodeeda waxay ku dhisaysaa in kordhinta aaga ganacsiga ee cusub uu marayo xuduud aan laga heshiin, aag lagu muran sanyahay. Hadda su'aashu waxay tahay goormaa labada dal u dhexeeyey dhul-badeed lagu muransanyahay ama goormaa Soomaaliya iyo Kenya xuduuda baddeeda isa soo galaysay, maxayse kordhintii hore ee aaga ganacsiga 10kii December 1982 markii laga dhigayey (200nm) Murankan ujiri waayey ama xuduudu isu soo gali waysay? Su'aalahan iyo kuwa kelaba gadaal ayaan ka faah faahin doonaa, ee marka hore aan milicsano heshiiskan yaa Kenya ka caawiyey ama yaa ka qayb qaatay?.

RR and other SOL members you need to read the in depth campaign of Somali-talk.com that exposes this charade. source

Adeer you don’t make sense at all, you are not an expert but you know that Somalia will gain 350 nautical miles, for all I know Somalia has lost much sea area in the south. Thus this deal smells like the Arusha one which we gained nothing and lost all of NFD. The title stays and until proven innocent one can not trust the likes of Sharif Sakin and the clowns holed up in the Villa.

Peacenow: Adeer go spew your insults somewhere else, this thread is about an educational institution to be build in the Muslim country called Somalia.

RR: Adeer as Somali it does bother me when dodgy deals are made behind closed doors, as a student of History one understands that the Arusha agreement was not a mutually beneficial deal between two nations. We always lose out because of idiotic leaders. Also don’t contradict yourself, you ay you are not an expert yet you are confident and know that Somalia will gain additional terrirory and I quote " least territory as much as 350 nautical miles “ , either you are in the know or you are bullshiting just to sound good and make these clowns who could not defend a mere city seem enlightened. I believe you dont have a clue what’s going on adeer. So far this deal has been scrutinized and many Somali’s including the few true experts in the Diaspora agrees it was unnecessary and detrimental to Somalia’s sovereignty. However be clear that I would rather everyone is wrong here than lose an inch of land for our children’s future like we lost the NFD to Kenya, and that agreement is not being renewed like this one if it goes through.

The library & center is for these beautiful Islamic children

RR: Brother one ascertain a few things first of all how much sovereignty does one secede and also did Somalia’s government have to put this request in when it was not prepared at this time, this is not conspiracy adeer, a weak government that controls a small area should not sign agreements with Neighbors who’s last agreement we signed with gave away the NFD. Thus all the info you have provided makes it look like a dream come true but one is not buying this and also we should reject it until things are made clearer. Kenya & Norway seemed to have a deep vested interest in getting this signed, maybe if we ignored it we would have been in a better position in two decades to exploit that area.

RR: First of all you did not answer any of the questions posed. If we Somalia is going for additional sea area outside of its exclusive zone, that is owned by the UN and no sovereign nation why did we sign an agreement with Kenya ? Brother, no one on Earth would like to not get extra, but in the real world nothing if given for free specially territories. So again while one thanks you for the effort answer the question.

Sherbeen Shabbele, ok mate.

Emperor you made some valid points which need to be answered by the supporters of this deal. RR: The important wording here is “claim additional maritime territory”, now are Somalia & Kenya are claiming or competing for the same territory, separate territories together or are just signing agreements to be part of the 69 nations or 75% of the worlds states that are rushing to claim additional continental shelf territories. Do explain as you understand it my brother.

Waxaa kaloo kalmado kooban ka jeediyey Professor Mohamed Hassan kana mid ah Macalinta Minneapolis halkan ka dhagayso.

Cabdirahman Cumar Cabduraxmaan Shaacir oo ah Abwaan Soomaaliyeed hase yeeshee ahaa maantay Xiriiriyaha Barnaamijkaan ayaa Gabay dheer oo aad u xiisa badan ku soo dhaweeyey Saciid Saalax Axmed oo ah Abwaan Mu alifweyn oo Somalidu wada taqaan laguna Xasuusto Alif la Kor dhabay Alif la hoos dhigay Barnaamij yadii Wasaaradda Waxbarasha Somaliya ka hor 1991. Abwaan Shaacir ayaa aad iyo aad oga yaabiyey Somalidii iyo ajanbigii ka soo qayb galay Gabygaan xiisaha leh ee loo tiriyey Mu'aif Saciid Saalax iyo Gabaygii halkan kadhagayso , sidoo kale hadalkii Saciid Saalax halkan ka dhagayso .

Sh Cabdiqani Qardhaawi ayaa kalmado qiiro leh oo ku saabsan baahida loo qabo aqoonta iyo in la taageero qorshahan ku dhiira galiyey Soomaalidii ka soo qayb gashay waxuuna shiikhu goobtaas ku aruuriyey lacag aad u fara badan walow aanan la sheegin inta lagu deeqay. Sh Qardhaawi oo dad ka Dhiira galinaya oo Kaftamaya halkan ka dhagayso. Waxaa kaloo Goobta ka hadlay Ibraahim Aaye oo ah mid ka mida Macalimiinta Iskuulada Minneapolis wax ka dhigta waxuu sheegay in Gurigiisa buugaatu ka bateen ka dibna uu ku guray Sariirta hoosteeda asaga oo tilmaamayaa Jacaylka uu u qabo buugaag ama aqoon korarsiga waxuuna tilmaamay Dhalin yaradu waxa ay akhriyaan in ay fakar ka qaataan isla markaan wax akhrisku uu tarbiyadooda qayb weyn ka qaato halkan ka dhagayso.