The whole secessionist project is in big trouble. The Southerners are finding out how "low you can go" and the international community led by the US will not tolerate such nonsense.

Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: quote:Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Xaji dont worry, this link will be explored in the coming days and weeks. If the evidance is clear dont worry the boys who hunted down Caynab will be coming for you.. Try harder No adeer this is damaging to you lads and will be a fuel to the unionist fire.. Burco beng the epicenter of terror, now that’s a terrible thing.

Shabab Leaders are from Somaliland. Mahdi HaileApril 18, 2010Shabab Leaders are from Somaliland. Shabab leaders from the Northern Somalia are mainly to blame for destroying Southern Somalia. As far as The Southern Somalis are concerned, the people who are destroying Somali are from The Break away republic OF Somaliland who wants to entertain international recognition. Perhaps the Southern Somalia´s woes and wars; are the efforts of people from Somaliland who want to achieve international recognition for Somaliland. There has been no time for political settlement in the south, rehabilitation or reconstruction. The- population from southern Somalia have scattered around the world and Most do not know where their loved ones are and whether they are still living or dead. They live in fear under a heavy Shabab military presence, led Axmed Cabdi Goodane, also known as Moktar Ali Zubeyr Godane the Amir of Shabab who is from Somaliland. according Ahmed Abdi Ow Mohamud Godane was born in Hargeisa, the capital of Somaliland 10 July 1977. • He is from Arab sub-clan in **** clan, one of the dominant clan in northern Somalia . • He had received a scholarship in Pakistan funded by Saudi blind millionaires. • He used to visit in Afghanistan during holidays In 2001, physically tin, Godane returned to Hargeisa, Somaliland . He began preaching in Abu-Bashir mosque in central Hargeisa between 2002 and 2003. He was working for Ex-Barakat Telesom, Somaliland . Later Godane left from Somaliland follwing a row with some of his group over a large amount of money they roped from an Ethiopian businessman and then come to southern Somalia. Godane and Afkhani both had trainings in Afghanistan and made friends in southern Somalia where they diverted their mission and doubled it. When the Islamic Courts Union came to power in southern Somalia in 2006 Mr. Godane who gave himself the name ´Abu-Zubeyr became the general secretary for ICU. During the start of the war with Ethiopia late 2006, Godane got wounded and flown to Sudan for medical treatment. • He was brought back in southern Somalia February 2007 where he continued his terror mission. In southern Somalia, People suffer a continued armed Shabab presence, and daily human rights violations that are perpetrated with impunity and with no independent investigation of these crimes. According to reliable sources, then the former business man and man with money coming from Somali land is definitely the evil in southern Somalia. But should the Somali Landers covertly be backing him as their candidate to insatiability in Southern Somalia? Which I don't think so; he is implicated in war crimes and crimes against humanity. These men and many other Somalilanders in Shabab ranks were largely responsible for the instability of the South Somalia and kin and for the destruction of Somalia. They should be brought to court to answer for their crimes and, given that, I believe it is morally and ethically impossible to throw one's monetary or material support behind either of these criminals from Northern Somalia. Southern Somali have always been at warlord sponsored wars. However this war is different and it has to be one that is getting monetary and material support from Northern Somalia and other State sponsors. The international community should monitor this situation closely. The Southerners are waking up to this..

Originally posted by Suldaanka: quote:How can it be possible that the top leaders of Al Shabaab are now mostly from the Hargaysa clans? raganimo dooda. Duh! Again how is it possible? Unless the secessionist project is supporting this.. Or are we suppose to believe the stories that this man "escaped" from Somaliland and came to the South without any support from the junta? Yeah I would rather your other fairytales such as the Queen being your lost Mother.

Somaliland is behind Al Shabaab :eek:

Somaliland One-Clan Secessionist - The Godfather of Al Shabaab is the Culprit for the Bombings in Uganda Ahmed Godane, a Somalilander, the head of the Al Shabaab in Southern Somalia has the blessing and full material and financial support of the criminal break away secessionist Somaliland. In their twisted calculations, secessionist Somaliland believes to gain everything from the havoc and devastation Al Shabaab causes in Southern Somalia and across the border. Somaliland Secessionists are convinced that as long as the southern part of Somalia remains barbaric and appears hopeless in the eyes of the international community, they will win the sympathy and attention of the world (international community). This means recognition for the secessionists. Ahmed Godane, the Al Shabaab leader, sizable number of prominent leaders of Al Shabaab, and thousands of Al Shabaab militia are Somalilanders from the Issak clan of the North of Somalia. These Issak secesiionists admit they are allied to Al Qaida and their mission is to secure recognition for their enclave in the North of Somalia. The Somaliland secessionist leaders and supporters are adamantly opposed to any kind of intervention to solve and/or contain the threats of Al Shabaab by Ethiopia, other frontline countries, the African countries in the region, and the international community. The secessionist opposition results from their fear that the intervention will disrupt the mayhem in the south which they see as being fundamental for them in achieving international recognition. The media and many analysts recall how War Criminal Ahmed Silanyo, the incoming secessionist president, opposed the Ethiopian intervention in Somalia in 2006, and the subsequent intervention of AMISOM. The objective of the secessionists is to let Al Shabaab march on up untill they (the secessionists) are recognized as an independent country. Obviously, Somalia, the frontline countries, Africa, and the world is held hostage for the secessionist so called Somaliland - the driving force behind Al Shabaab. The Problems of Al Shabaab will only be solved when the international community understands the conspiracy of the secessionists, confront them, and passes an unambiguous declaration that there will be no recognition for the secessionists. In addition, the secessionist leaders should be held accountable for the criminal and terrorist actions they carried out in the south and neighboring countries, the last of them the terrorist bombings in Kampala – the capital of Uganda, if Al Shabaab's responsibility in these attacks is established. Eventually, the hijacked population of the Issak in the North of Somalia is to be assisted to participate in the reconciliation process of all Somalia. Also, please read this report

^^^Puntland never cared for him; it was he the "Minister of interior" who kept crying out loud. We found it amusing and you were just confused. Now you can thank me for clearing up things for you..

^^^Xaji dont worry, this link will be explored in the coming days and weeks. If the evidance is clear dont worry the boys who hunted down Caynab will be coming for you..

No wonder Gaboose started to cry "We will work with Puntland" every other day, he knew that his boys [sNM agents] were decimated in Galgala and had to hide the secessionist tracks.. Nice try..

^^^Adeer stop the fake smiles, you are shook right about now. Any go get some info which Habar this i Saciid Saalax Caynab belongs

The dead man Saciid Saalax Caynab, from the secessionist Traingle was fighting with the miltia's of Atam. Liibahe, the man and what remains of your agents are now being housed in Burco,. Thats the focus now.

Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: Duke where did i aplaud him i just said lot's of people are paranoid by him like you You called a mere thug "Emir" showing him a great deal of deference. Considering your emotional remarks at hearing of the reported death of Colonel David Rose, we can exclude any “religious” support for the man. Its clear that your support stems from knowledge of the importance of Godane & Al Shabaab to the secessionist project.

Originally posted by Gabbal: Don't be ridiculous. Godane would destroy Hargeisa faster than he did many southern cities in order to accomplish his objective. The Hargaysa bombing aside, and that was when he was on the rise. He has never attacked Somaliland. The PIS has stood as a major impediment to Godane & secessionist designs to destabilize Puntland as the example of Galgala clearly highlights.

^^^Nah adeer just go and find out which Habar the dead officer is from..

Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: Emir godane dad badan bu kaga qaylisiyey Thanks for making the point of the thread. Your "Emir Godane" is keeping Mogadishu in flames, blowing up Medical School Students, old men in Beledweyne, Hotel Muna and killing teenage girls in Beledweyne. And you applaud him, why?

^^^He was raving mad and even pushed the news agenda that was coming out of the Attam supporters. It made little sense unless you understood the motive..

^^^No wonder some SOL Nomads were so excited about Attam and his efforts? Whole threads were sustained by secessionists...

Somaliland aggressions Under Somaliland's former president, Mr. Dahir Riyale, Somaliland funded and provided military assistance to Atom's fighters in Galgala, according to Puntland government documents dating back to 2006. That policy was part of Somaliland's "illegal practice" to destabilize Puntland by using proxies and to turn attention away from the real issue of "Somaliland military aggressions in Sool region," the documents revealed. It is not clear what connections Mr. Atom might have with Somaliland's new administration under President Silanyo, but Somaliland security forces have raided houses over the past three months in Burao, seizing explosives material and arresting suspects linked to Al Shabaab, according to Somaliland officials. Since 2007, Burao which is Somaliland's second-largest town has been the primary transit hub in Somalia used by foreign fighters and Somali militants heading to wars in Mogadishu, and more recently, in Galgala area of Puntland. Somaliland's new Silanyo administration has publicly appealed for what Interior Minister Mohamed Abdi Gabose calls "security cooperation with Puntland," but authorities in Puntland say Somaliland must first take active steps against Al Shabaab elements inside Somaliland. "Somaliland wants to tell the world that its peaceful, while hiding dangerous elements in major towns like Burao," said a Puntland government official who spoke on condition of anonymity. Ahmed Abdi Godane, the elusive leader of Al Shabaab who hails from Somaliland, was quoted as saying that Al Shabaab insurgents "should not interfere in Somaliland until Puntland is destabilized first." " Plans to destabilized Puntland have failed and so now Atom and his Al Shabaab supporters have infiltrated a major town in Somaliland," concluded the Puntland government official, whilst referring to Al Shabaab's operations in Burao. Garowe Online Special Report contact@garoweonline.com

Somaliland aggressions Under Somaliland's former president, Mr. Dahir Riyale, Somaliland funded and provided military assistance to Atom's fighters in Galgala, according to Puntland government documents dating back to 2006. That policy was part of Somaliland's "illegal practice" to destabilize Puntland by using proxies and to turn attention away from the real issue of "Somaliland military aggressions in Sool region," the documents revealed. It is not clear what connections Mr. Atom might have with Somaliland's new administration under President Silanyo, but Somaliland security forces have raided houses over the past three months in Burao, seizing explosives material and arresting suspects linked to Al Shabaab, according to Somaliland officials. Since 2007, Burao which is Somaliland's second-largest town has been the primary transit hub in Somalia used by foreign fighters and Somali militants heading to wars in Mogadishu, and more recently, in Galgala area of Puntland. Somaliland's new Silanyo administration has publicly appealed for what Interior Minister Mohamed Abdi Gabose calls "security cooperation with Puntland," but authorities in Puntland say Somaliland must first take active steps against Al Shabaab elements inside Somaliland. "Somaliland wants to tell the world that its peaceful, while hiding dangerous elements in major towns like Burao," said a Puntland government official who spoke on condition of anonymity. Ahmed Abdi Godane, the elusive leader of Al Shabaab who hails from Somaliland, was quoted as saying that Al Shabaab insurgents "should not interfere in Somaliland until Puntland is destabilized first." " Plans to destabilized Puntland have failed and so now Atom and his Al Shabaab supporters have infiltrated a major town in Somaliland," concluded the Puntland government official, whilst referring to Al Shabaab's operations in Burao. Garowe Online Special Report contact@garoweonline.com

^^^I believe they are big supporters of Godane & Afghani. Now if this story is true then it explains allot. Even the love of Godane from our own SOL secessionists groups make a great deal of sense.

Originally posted by Fiqikhayre: This is clear a breach of International conventions aiding a terrorist group to destabilise a stable region in a war-torn country. It's illegal and shows how immature Somaliland is and their irresponsibility. They're playing with fire and the danger is quiet evident. The Intelligence Agency of Puntland need to pass this sensitive information to the relevant parties in order for them to deal with these danger unparalleled.

Garoowe:Sirdoonka Puntland oo Faafiyey Magaca Sarkaal katirsan Sirdoonka Somaliland oo ku geeryooday Dagaaladii Galgala…(Xog Hoose). 28. oktober 2010 APL Garoowe:(Allpuntland)-Ciidamada Sirta ee Dawlada Puntland ayaa Fashilyey islamarkaasna sheegey Dhimashada Taliye sare oo katirsan Ciidamada Sirdoonka ee Somaliland kaas oo ku geeryooday Dagaaladii todobaadyo ka hor kadhacay Deegaano kamid ah Tuulada Galgala gaar ahaan Colmadow oo ka tirsan Toga Sugure. War kasoo baxay Ciidamada Sirdoonka ee Dawlada Puntland ayaa lagu sheegey in Taliyahan oo lagu magacaabi jiray Siciid Saalax Ceynab uu ka barbardagaalamaya islamarkaasna la shaqeynayey Kooxdii uu hogaaminayey Maxamed Siciid Atam kuwaas oo ay Dawladu ku guulaystaya Dagaalo lagu soo afjaray. Taliska Sirdoonka Dawlada Puntland wuxuu sidoo kale sheegey in inkabadan 70-Askari oo kamid ah Ciidamada Sirta ee Somaliland ay kamid ahaayeen malayshiyaadkii Atam,waxaana sidoo kale ay sheegeen in Dawladu ay baaritaano ku hayso Saraakiil kale oo la tuhunsanyahay inay ku geeryoodeen dagaaladii ka dhanka ahaa Atam oo Todobaadyo ka hor ka dhacay Deegaano kamid ah Tuulada Galgala. Warkan kasoo baxay Ciidamada Sirdoonka ee Dawlada Puntland ayaa imaanaya xili ay Dawladu horey u muujisay sida ay uga walwalsantahay in Maamulka la magacbaxay Somaliland ay wadashaqeyn dhow la leeyihiin Malayshiyaadkii ay Dawladu soo afjartay,waxaana ay horey Saraakiil katirsan Ciidamada Sirdoonka Puntland APL u xaqiijiyeen in dhaawacyo kamid ah Ciidamada Atam lagu dabiibayey Magaalooyinka Burco & Hargeysa. Cabdiqani Xayir Allpuntland

They are not just mourning Col David Rose today then...

This is troubling, and there will be a clear response if its found to be true..

lagu magacaabi jiray Siciid Saalax Ceynab uu ka barbardagaalamaya islamarkaasna la shaqeynayey Kooxdii uu hogaaminayey Maxamed Siciid Atam kuwaas oo ay Dawladu ku guulaystaya Dagaalo lagu soo afjaray.