Fanta ku dishay! Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool Loool Maa shaali baad tiim dear??? Looooooooooooooool Bless you crack me up loooooooooooooool hahah

^^^They have animal fat in them, read the ingredients next time old man! Yes the current order is: Ducaysane Dabshiid Che JB A&T FB Ngonge Geel_Jire Lab Xiinyood I would like you to drop off the list all together or stay near the bottom if you must be included Dumaashi [Can't have oodeye ciiyaal xafad list kuu jiira calling me Dumaashi now, can I!]

^^^^Lol JB is female! I agree with Blessed iyo Malika.

Lily Lol, don't put ideas in my mind! I'm going to be looking around caawa! lol Ngonge what did you have for breakfast? :confused: I think you too have been hanging around with that dude Ducaesany. You are getting out of hand old man. Now you are on JB level. Baal halka haa daafin!

^^^Loool Slap him into another race.

Tea Drinking & Toe Kissing: The perfect Breakfast in Bed With The New Minyaro :eek: :eek:

^^^Loool @ kiss my toes. Hahaha. Minyaro :rolleyes: Ngonge you better behave.

Looool Ngonge, when did CL become the tea lady lool CL what is going on. Lalalala

^^^Well angi suuq maan joog, the suuq wuu shidan till 5am, but I was nerding out, and there was no one there. White paper.

Looool @ JB. My eyes never ever ever go red. Even when I'm all cried out, they are white as paper. I think something wrong Morning CL, how are you dear. You would be proud of me, I stayed at uni till 11.30pm and did lots of work. then I got on the train and I saw a guy with a T-shirt that said "I could Kill You" :eek: I had to force myself to sit down! lol

I woke up at 7am, even though I went to sleep so late. It was too warm...but it looks like it is going to rain bucket load. Morning people.

Ngonge: Alhumdulilah I have tons of e-mail listings who have my back! I don't need your fakeness You supporting me is a really not the point. You missed a whole post, I did not edit, I just added a new post same time you posted. Anyway are you happy with my clarification with regards to MPAC and MCB? And will you come to an event and check your sight for yourself? P.s. The essence of arguing with someone is both of you are open minded enough to consider the other side and willing to switch if they are proven wrong. However you are not willing to do that, because you just want too be negative about everything, regardless of what it is. Neither I’m willing to change because I KNOW I am right! Therefore us arguing is unproductive and a waste of time. So sheekada inno Xiid.

^^^I believe they have responded to you directly already. I'll send a reminder out again 2morrow inshallah. How many responses do you have all together already? Although registering for Somalis does not translate to them showing up. If 50 register, count on only 30 or less turning up. Lool squabbling over 200k grant Somali communities are like NGOs in Africa, a "get rich quick" way for selfish people who just use and abuse those they are suppose to help.

^^Ok okay I'm gone. P.s. CL nice to see you care dear Ngonge I believe we are done here. I gave you all the evidence you need. Stick you head in the sand, ignore me or keep shouting.

Ngonge This is when they made there peace with each other. had been misquoted and worse then damaging myself, I had unwittingly damaged the MCB and Dr Abdul Bari, and for that I apologise unreservedly and without hesitation. Let’s make the situation between MPACUK and the MCB clearer and then the relationship between Dr Bari the CEO of the MCB and myself (Zulfi Bukhari) the CEO of MPACUK. And that should put into context the truth of the matter. MPACUK have for years avoided criticising the MCB in public (and in fact defended them countless times) not because they are above criticism but because regardless of their limitations they are trying at least to make a difference and with that they have our support. MPACUK have a policy not to hold to account those who are trying to improve, it’s the ones who aren’t that we have an issue with. The MCB are under the cosh by the government and the Zionist media because the MCB’s disapproval of its laws aimed at the Muslims, the war in Iraq and for its refusal to attend Holocaust Memorial Day, because of the way that Zionist have politicised the event to support Israel. And on all of these issues MPAC stand shoulder to shoulder with the MCB and there isn’t a cigarette papers difference between us. The relationship between the two heads of the organisations is one of respect and collaboration. Yes it is both early days to see how well we can work together but our goals are the same our tactics are different but that is irrelevant we understand and respect each other. To confirm it was not my intention to compare him to his predecessor or question his independence or decision making capability. here Since (2006), following several meetings, they have been working together rather than against each other. Although they still have many differences. My invite stands

You are you not being truthful when talking about MPAC and the MCB (I'm disappointed in you here). How so?? I happen to know for a fact. If you wish please do come to their next joint event. In fact I will send you an invite and you can Asghar or Dr Bari's . Just because you see attacking MCB on TV you think you know what is going on. I think I invited you a long time ago, and I invite you again now. Ngonge you don't have a point dear. Did you watch the video?? P.s. In the meantime I'll dig something up for you.

^^^Loool. I doubt you will be able to do anything else but answer all those pleas and queries! lool @ Photo op. You guys have a good strategic location, the Somali community should use it well, and you can be the token immigrant community!

Ngonge I found something that suits you to perfection. "The Art of Complaining" I tired of you and your madness. In time you will see, I was right all along. p.s. Yes Ken, in the Mayor election, I remember going in circles with you, in fact I think it is when you gave me the busybody label. I can't remember if you commented on the other. Now you are telling me that you've judged me based on the shike/award and the M&S campaign As for MPAC and MCB: with overlapping membership and campaigns and egos aside, they are like me and sayid, rather than like me and you P.s. Ngonge I'm going to take a break and join you to see what your boring, selfish lifestyle is like What do you say we swap lifes for a week... ok okay two days?? Here is your first attack on me Israel wipes its shoes over British law- Straw Apologises and YES MCB was on board for this one, they published the same story :rolleyes: P.s. Listen to North P.s.s. You've attacked me more than three times Ngonge, it is like a hobby for you, a favourite past time. However you've karbaash me three times.

HAHAHAHA LOoooooooooooooooool. you've just shot yourself in the foot, and illustrated that you really are clueless and on top of that have just been attacking me for no reason. 1) I am a member of MCB, in fact I'm a volunteer for their campaigns team. 2) Many of the campaigns I've highlighted here on SOL often overlapping with work I do for them or MPAC. Do you remember the Ken Livingston campaign? The niqaab campaign? women in the mosque?? boycot Isreal? 3) Most of the articles I post here are credited to prominent members of MCB. In fact the ones you attack the most are from Inayat Bunglawala who is now the assistant Secretary-Generaland previously the head of MCB. 4) Although there are minor differences in approach between MPAC and MCB, they have been joining together for campaigns within the last six months. Have you seen the MCB new directives on democracy and engagement? When you do come back to me. In any case my goal is to draw all these organisations together. Now I just need a way to influence the Sufis and BMF. Now tell me what you were saying again?? Any other suggestions Ngonge? EDIT: Looooooooooooool @ Sayid. Ngonge is so much potential. It makes me sad to give up on him, so I keep trying!

I just had lunch. Now I want to sleep.

I only know MCB (Muslim council of Britian) and the British Muslim Forum, WHo is the British Muslim Council and what do they do??

^^He is not your friend

I'm too tired to argue with you and go in circles again Ngonge. I can't help you if you refuse to listen or if you've put me in a little box and refuse to change your mind. On the one hand you agree with me, on the other you think I'm wasting away and blindly following people. You say theoretically I am correct, but I am misguided practically. You speak of countless Islamic organisations, but you don't like none of the ones I've ever mentioned. So where are these organisations, what have they achieved?? Tell me, prove it and I promise I will leave it all alone and join them. If you can't, if you won't then don't waste my time

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ Hint: A whole site dedicating itself to reporting on and exposing Islamophobes. Not someone casually coming across offensive material but someone actually going out of their way to look for and unearth such material. Now that's the essence of being a busy body. This is akin to the proverbial old lady with her twitching curtains, dear. She too does not think she's doing anything wrong. She's protecting the neighbourhood after all. ^^^Sometimes waan kaa yaab. You seem to think that if you don't see or hear it won't harm you. I cannot believe I am going to have this discussion with you of all people. But here it goes anyway. 1)So you object to the Islamophobe watch because really you think they are raising the profile of Islamophobes and if we were to ignore them and pretend they don't exist they will go away. 2) I can't get past this first point, in fact it is hurting my head. SO let me keep it brief and flip it for you. Ngonge, if you have an interest or an agenda, then no will protect it for you other than YOU of course. The media and everyone Tom, Dick and Harry will mock you and your agenda, regardless of what you do. This mockery and false information goes into the mainstream society, shaping the views, perceptions of millions. These will translate into direct action against you, either in forms of policy, physical attacks or verbal abuses, there by impacting on your life. This will surprise you, as the whole time you had your head in the sand, and since you do not read 15 news papers a day and watch every news channel, you do not know what was said about you, nor did you counter it. So whose faulty is it?? Who do you blame? Not someone casually coming across offensive material but someone actually going out of their way to look for and unearth such material. Now that's the essence of being a busy body. Actually that exactly what it is, a bunch of people, who have regular life’s, each reads a certain news paper and keeps their ears and eyes open and shares if they come across anything. Lastly I know you know that nearly all media outlets have a special teams handling complaints and comments only. Therefore, they are happy to hear from you and welcome your views. The reason they are there is so you can indirectly shape what they portrait. Now THIS one you may not know, There are no other collection of organisations that are more dedicated to encouraging Islamaphobia than the Zionist organisations. They have specialist teams for no other purpose than to lobby the media and politicians and pressure them in to portraying Islam in a bad light and their own cause in a favourable light. I cannot for the life of me understand, why you continue to stick your head in the sand and refuse to use the same tools they have so successfully employed?? It is like the Muslims who still learn how to fight with swords :confused: I'm really annoyed with you, because I know you know better, but you insist on joining the happy clappers. WHY?

^^^Explain, with or without respect, its all the same to me, so knock yourself out.