You guys need a mens section for your bullshid pervertness! :rolleyes: Lily lucky you (for going away) and nice to know you will share rush hr with us

Hey Val- Thanks, I would really like for you to attend with your gang, but if you cannot make it, I will send you the address to send cheques to closer to the date.

^^Lily when are you coming back??

^^^WHy would I :confused: If I did it would be to take pictures and have a laugh! lol It is the friday gone.

Serenity, did you do that on purpose! Stop rubbing it in our face that you are working from home. I worked both days as well. Showing elements of workaholic behaviour. I keep trying to justify it with “there is so much to do” but now I’m not so sure, I’ve worked at least one day of the weekend as well as the whole week since I finished uni. Faheema go home early, you should've done what serenity did Sayid, why what happened to you? For a monday morning it is full in here, only Ngonge and CL missing

In a UK first, a mixed congregation prayer is to be led by a woman at Oxford's Muslim Education Centre (MECO) on friday. Amina Wadud is to lead the prayer just as she did in America in 2005. This has caused alot of controversy among mainstream Muslims where such an action is prohibited. This unique congregation is part of a two day conference on Islam and Feminism to which many speakers are expected, notably, Ruqaiyah Waris Maqsood. Other participants include Dr. Laleh Bakhtiar, Professor Margot Badran, Dr. Qudsia Mirza, Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, Abdennur Prado, Dr. Haifa Jawad. Rawand Othman, Dr Raja Rhouni, Erica Timoney. Our inbox has been deluged with comments on this story. Here is one such mail sent by Br Sultan from Oxford who had the following to say: I am sure you are all well aware of Prof Amina Wadud. This Islamic 'Professor' stirred up controversy by being the 1st Female to lead (mixed) congregation prayers in New York, 2005. She did this to show that Islam (supposedly) does not prohibit women from leading prayers. Her actions resulted in many mosques and scholars condemning this action. Well, the same professor is going to do the same this Friday Jummah in Oxford. MECO (the so-called "moderate" and "progressive" Muslim organisation) chairman, Dr. Taj Hargey invited Prof. Amina Wadud to lead the service as part of a two-day conference on Islam and Feminism. Dr. Hargey said he did not regard the decision as controversial, but as "historic and pioneering" and believed there was evidence that women led prayers in the time of Prophet Mohammed. I would like to know where Dr. Hargey gets his "evidence" as he clearly does not believe in HADITHS (just see the MECO website) and women leading prayers is not in the QURAN. He seems to be another one of these Muslims who get government support as he says the right things the UK likes to hear. Now, we are all for Mosque reform to allow sisters open rights to do prayers within mosques (if they wish to do so). We are also all for our sisters to enjoy their God-given rights as equals (something which the vast majority of our Muslim men fail to act upon) but I do have to say that I draw the line when women are allowed to lead congregation prayers (which consist of MEN and WOMEN) all for the sake of "liberty" and "progression". There is no evidence within the Quran or Sunnah that women can lead (mixed) congregation prayers. She is, however, allowed to lead a congregation consisting ONLY of women. Imam Muslim narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said that, “The best rows for the men are the front ones and the least good are the ones toward the back; and the best rows for the women are the ones towards the back and the least good are the ones towards the front.” This was for no other reason but to protect them from any embarrassment and to close the door before any evil thoughts or temptations come into the hearts of whoever might be looking at them otherwise. How could it be possible then that a woman can be in front of all rows leading the Friday prayer? I believe this is being done for the sake of stirring up trouble (controversy) and I have to say that I am appalled that the Professor is going to makes speeches on "Islam and Feminism" in WOLFSON COLLEGE - OXFORD UNIVERSITY, if she feels Islam allows women to lead Congregation prayers. By Dr Taj's definition I am an "extremist" for holding this view. This is funny since I always considered myself to be very moderate and balanced. Now, I know that the Christians amongst us will say that their churches went through this "reform" several decades ago to allow women to be ordained as priests, and that Islam should go through this sort of reform as well. This slippery slope ended with the churches splitting into two. Now, we have so called experts like Dr. Haj and Professor Amina doing exactly the same for Islam and mosques. This is not 'progression'. This is making a mockery of religion under the guise of "equal rights". Anyone against this event, should either Email MECO, OXFORD (do a Goggle search) or go outside Oxford Centre, 333 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 7PL on Friday to voice your displeasure. We welcome any comments you have for or against this UK first. Further Reading: http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?t=38255 http://www.thisisoxfordshire.co.uk/n..._lead_prayers/ http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...EAskTheScholar http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...EAskTheSchola

Lool @ Malika, I am going through so strange body/mind habit changes, I was thinking it is old age creeping in, now you tell me youth eh! +Faheema Do you have the day off?? I am not suprised, Somali people are mad! anyone working with them has to be also a little mad. But it was fun and fantastic. Well done Nuune lol

Aaah it is monday already. Something strange happened today. I went to sleep at 4.45am, slept through my alarm at 6.15am and then woke up on my own, without an alarm at 7.30am! I think it is the first time I have ever woken up without an alarm. even more strange I feel really fresh and awake. It is spooky! Morning all

Ms DD, Now I'm tempted to swing by yours for tea after work. I need to get back to work. Guys relax, I am talking general. Shiid, gossiping old men

The begining of a relationship, why is it always so exciting? Ms DD Is it the one I knew about or a new breed?? I'm glade you are excited about it

Ngone, I'm afraid ayeeyo has already made me promise some things. You know Islamicly if I am checking one option you can't offer me another, so I am sorry to declain your lovely brother. As for the topic, Those are not choices one can possible prefer, shiid, But when air is short and you are dying I doubt one cares what the first aid person had for lunch.

aaah wats is the topic?? Ngonge congrats.

^^I left the leaflets at home today, but I can pass by with them on sat or mon. 10pm!!! I hope to finish work by 7pm

I don't care how long it goes no for, as long as we go SOMEWHERE at the end of it. I don't mind if it is on or off the island. Budget, if it is Nov, I don't mind either, whatever is going to get me there.

^^Coool. And I like your Abaya Selling style. Send me your e-mail. I will call you 2night,don't go to sleep early or coffee, I am in your ends today? I need no more that 100 people, at £20 each. I was thinking of giving each charity £1,000. P.s. Meanest face, yeah right! lol you could not scare anyone. As for advertising, tell a friend, to tell another friend and another friend, e-mail, phone, shout, find em. Talk is in english, so I guess english speaking sisters, without kids. No kids please (over 11 is okay) I also have nice gloss coloured printed leaflets, if you need any to give to people on the bus, train, events, mosque, I can drop them off to you.

^^^Did you not read the poster, I promised them a 3 course meal. The fingure food will be the starters. Ms DD We need to talk about you having a stool with your abayas. Sheh, I will PM you when I start moving things along.

^^Lool. Malika Thanks, better late congrats than never. Today I'm good alhumdulilah, I feel fresh, full and beautiful. It is the friday feeling (I working 2morrow, so don't even know, but I'm trying to be super cheerful) How you doing??

I'm not big on pigeon shooting or paintballing, one is painful and the other looks boring. I want to walk, climb, run, not stand around shooting, saas baan kaa qaabah shooting guns. Somalia ayan gun uga iimi, now you want me to play with one and PAY to do so! lol I like the weekend idea of Malika and MS DD and serenity idea. I want to get away from London. I need a break. Sheh if we are going to do something, can you make it good, I promise to make time. Oh and I am good with what ever You all agree.

^^Yes please, I do [i told you I never say no, somali people have a habit of saying yes, yes and then not showing up] Cool, I need a really mean person at the door who won't let people in unless they have a ticket, otherwise everyone will just walk. Nearest station Whitchapel or Bethnal Green. Buses 25, 253, 106, D3, 205 Also I need some ideas as to what kind of food to order. (Some hard working, smart, money saving people what to cook, but I'm not so sure about an event with somali wedding food) Any ideas?

^^I'm still tying to learn normal somali, but when ever I write it wrong I will say I was trying to write gadaal gadaal. Good excuses for me eh! lol Morning Malika

Thanks guys Owwe that is so cool Cawaale, thank you so much brother, that is great MAshallah may allah reward you, for I can't think of how to, other than thank you thank you. Che lool, and it is £20, not $20 dude! thanks. Red sea and Cabdiyo and Sayid, thank you guys. +Faheem, yep I never say no to extra help, even if they just turn up early to calm me and fix the possible mess ups. so thanks in advance.

NGonge where did you go?? To be honest I've not been around, but yeah I did notice you was gone..for a day maybe. Sayid what language is that?? Hello Nuune

Salam people

Headach

Can you guys get together and at least get them to call you the right name. Moslom. Issh caaleek it is like saying somalian.