Blessed: Lol thanks, btw how is hooyo?? is she feeling better?? Xamax Gale: What if I do Serenity: Nicely avoided KK: LOL okay, but then you guys will not be able to breath if I use no shaqal dhers << see it looks wrong Nuune: I told you I was an experiment for a new language. My aim now that I’ve passed the curyaan Ngonge is inaan North siiga ku liqo

^^Why :confused: I'm glade they are related now, maybe they won't fight so much. I'm annoyed by small minded farah's on this section who somehow concluded that femininity is something laa isku caayo.

Cynical lady, lol you give such bad review then tell us to go and see it!! SS, haye, baal ii sheek how do I make this power tool work. I lack normal iyo abnormal imagination, I'm far too logical and I have control issues, so I can't let go

^^^It might well be Juxa, I'm having hard time remembering the wording iyo details. Sorry, I should've written them when I was a little younger, just clenching on straws haada. Serenity, I will inshallah look into few weekends at SOAS, you might want to come with me, you can improve on your speaking iyo reading. Then you won't get tired reading it

^^^No, I did not get that far, I got bored somewhere beween naag baad tahey iyo shankaroon, who is she married to iyo yaa daaley. :rolleyes: These days all the threads are blending in together, the same comments across threads.

^^My brothers are still children, we'll see what they become, I said "reer SOL", last time I checked my family was not part of reer SOL.

Reer SOL boys waax ii isku cayan :rolleyes: So pointless somali men.

Cynical lady, the guy is not interested in anything other than a new "Quran" which is not evil. What kind of dialog could possible take place. Here he is on hardtalk BBC in August 2008. Scroll down to listen. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7842344.st m

Islam film Dutch MP to be charged A Dutch court has ordered prosecutors to put a right-wing politician on trial for making anti-Islamic statements. Freedom Party leader Geert Wilders made a controversial film last year equating Islam with violence and has likened the Koran to Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf. "In a democratic system, hate speech is considered so serious that it is in the general interest to... draw a clear line," the court in Amsterdam said. Mr Wilders said the judgement was an "attack on the freedom of expression". "Participation in the public debate has become a dangerous activity. If you give your opinion, you risk being prosecuted," he said. Not only he, but all Dutch citizens opposed to the "Islamisation" of their country would be on trial, Mr Wilders warned. "Who will stand up for our culture if I am silenced?" he added. 'Incitement' The three judges said that they had weighed Mr Wilders's "one-sided generalisations" against his right to free speech, and ruled that he had gone beyond the normal leeway granted to politicians. The Amsterdam appeals court has ordered the prosecution of member of parliament Geert Wilders for inciting hatred and discrimination, based on comments by him in various media on Muslims and their beliefs," the court said in a statement. "The court also considers appropriate criminal prosecution for insulting Muslim worshippers because of comparisons between Islam and Nazism made by Wilders," it added. The court's ruling reverses a decision last year by the public prosecutor's office, which said Mr Wilders's comments had been made outside parliament as a contribution to the debate on Islam in Dutch society and that no criminal offence had been committed. Prosecutors said on Wednesday that they could not appeal against the judgement and would open an investigation immediately. Gerard Spong, a prominent lawyer who pushed for Mr Wilders's prosecution, welcomed the court's decision. "This is a happy day for all followers of Islam who do not want to be tossed on the garbage dump of Nazism," he told reporters. 'Fascist book' In March 2008, Mr Wilders posted a film about the Koran on the internet, prompting angry protests across the Muslim World. The opening scenes of Fitna - a Koranic term sometimes translated as "strife" - show a copy of the holy book followed by footage of the bomb attacks on the US on 11 September 2001, London in July 2005 and Madrid in March 2004. Pictures appearing to show Muslim demonstrators holding up placards saying "God bless Hitler" and "Freedom go to hell" also feature. The film ends with the statement: "Stop Islamisation. Defend our freedom." Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said at the time that the film wrongly equated Islam with violence and served "no purpose other than to offend". A year earlier, Mr Wilders described the Koran as a "fascist book" and called for it to be banned in "the same way we ban Mein Kampf", in a letter published in the De Volkskrant newspaper. Mr Wilders has had police protection since Dutch director Theo Van Gogh was killed by a radical Islamist in 2004. Correspondents say his Freedom Party (PVV), which has nine MPs in the lower house of parliament, has built its popularity largely by tapping into the fear and resentment of Muslim immigrants.

A Dutch MP who called the Koran a "fascist book" says he still plans to travel to the UK despite being banned on public security grounds. Freedom Party MP Geert Wilders was invited to show his controversial film - which links the Islamic holy book to terrorism - in the UK's House of Lords. But Mr Wilders, who faces trial in his own country for inciting hatred, has been denied entry by the Home Office. He plans to fly into Heathrow later, saying: "Let's see what happens." 'Offensive' Mr Wilders' film Fitna caused outrage across the Muslim world when it was posted on the internet last year. Its opening scenes show a copy of the Koran followed by footage of the 9/11 attacks in the US and the bombings in Madrid in 2004 and London in 2005. The Dutch prime minister has said the film served "no purpose other than to offend". Mr Wilders was asked to show the film at the House of Lords by UK Independence Party peer Lord Pearson. However, he received a letter from the British Embassy in the Netherlands telling him he would not be allowed into the UK. The Home Office said there was a blanket ban on Mr Wilders entering the UK under EU laws enabling member states to exclude someone whose presence could threaten public security. "The government opposes extremism in all forms," it said in a statement, adding that it had tightened up rules on excluding those engaging in "unacceptable behaviour" in October. "It will stop those who want to spread extremism, hatred, and violent messages in our communities from coming to our country." The home secretary has the power to stop people entering the UK if she believes there is a threat to national security, public order or the safety of UK citizens, but she cannot exclude people simply because of their views. Mr Wilders described the decision as "cowardly" and said he still intends to travel to the UK on Thursday to take part in the event. He told the BBC: "It's incredible that an elected politician who was invited by one of your parliamentarians to a discussion with people who are against me, or in favour of me [was banned from the UK]." Mr Wilders added: "I was surprised and very saddened that the freedom of speech that was a very strong point of UK society has been harassed. I thought Great Britain had the mother of all parliaments." The Dutch government is reported to be trying to overturn the ban. In the past, Mr Wilders has called for the Koran to be banned and compared it to Mein Kampf. Earlier this year, a Dutch court ordered prosecutors to put Mr Wilders on trial for inciting hatred and discrimination by making anti-Islamic statements. Labour peer Lord Ahmed, who expressed his concerns to the Parliamentary authorities about Mr Wilders' visit, said he welcomed the decision to ban the MP. "It would be unwise to have him in the UK because this man's presence would cause hatred," he said. "He has a case against him in the Amsterdam court for inciting hatred." 'Attacked obviously' Lord Ahmed, who said other Muslim peers shared his concerns, stressed that Mr Wilders' views would certainly present a threat to public order. "When Muslims are attacked obviously you will see people react to that." And Chris Huhne, Lib Dem home affairs spokesman, said he had watched the film, which he called "revolting", and backed the ban. "Freedom of speech is our most precious freedom of all, because all the other freedoms depend on it," he said. "But there is a line to be drawn even with freedom of speech, and that is where it is likely to incite violence or hatred against someone or some group." But Lord Pearson said the decision to bar him was "weak and unacceptable in the extreme". "The Home Office is guilty of appeasement on this, clearly." The peer said the screening would still go ahead on Thursday whether Mr Wilders was present or not. He said the parliamentary authorities were happy for the event to take place but had ordered extra security for it. "The film does not threaten anyone," he said, adding that it simply showed how violent extremists justified their actions. He said the screening would be followed by a debate on issues relating to the Koran, extremism and freedom of speech. Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7882953.stm

Today's statistics are brought to you by... terrorism legislation Section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000 allows the police to stop and search people. In 2008: Number of people stopped nationwide by British Transport Police using s 44: 160,000 Number of people stopped in London by the Metropolitan Police using s. 44: 200,000 Number of people amongst the 360,000 stopped under s. 44 and found to have any terrorist material or links: 0 Source: http://conservativehome.blogs.com/centreright/2009 /02/todays-statisti.html I've been stopped by the British Transport Police three times in Kings Cross station, I now avoid getting off at the stop.

JB where the party @ ,,

You moan too much adgi, did you not read the first page, already fatixa aya loo akhriey the Somali language. Serenity, you of all people, I expected you run a mile when you see a thread titled Ibtisam Somali 101! I mean what did you expect P.s. Serenity, have I improved? Malika, I'm working on that one now, you wait and see! hehe

^^AKA daadqaal I think is the other word, although they are not the same thing. Ever heard the above sheeko?? The song was laster used in the cities to bully girls. How was your birthday yesterday, belated wishes.

Ok okay, lets see. Beri hoore Waaxa jirtaey gaabad qurux badab, bislaatey as nuune would say. Waax qaabay nin xoolo baadan leeh and iinan bay u lahaayd ninka. One day, ninkii wuu iska tegey and naag kaley ayuu guursaaday, then xoolihiis gaabadi minweytahad waa laa qiibsad and the new one baa loo soocay, guuri weyen naag tii cuusbade waa looaga dhisey. Markay aragety meesha waaxa kaa daacey, the new house, half of her xool gone, habeenkii ayey intay innakedi xambaaratey kaa daaqajisey. Ninki was of course with the new wife and waax baa muu ogen till subaxdii. By then she was long gone and waa laga quustey gabadi iyo iinanki. In her misery and anger, gabadi weye luuntey, reerohoodi meeshi uguu tambaysay bey garanweys. She walked for days and nights with son till ii gaadhay dooxadii nogaal. Meeshasu waaxa ahadi meel lago baqo oo lagu yaaqaano qor iis marais [JB tell em what that is ] After a while, just before dark, waxey aragtay siigo soo kaacasey iyo waax soo ordaya at great speed. Then she feared for her son, so cagaha aya waax ka dayday, babababac juuf style. Markaasuu qoor iis maraiskiin iska tab dhigey. The gabad iyo iinakedo, they were buurranayeen, so qori iis maraiski hungry baa kaa soo dacey. So he intensified his chase. Iyaad na naflaacaari by this time so tab yar mai shidanyni, sii laa iisu baacsanye baa lug soo daac Boholaha Xargaga. Gabaadi markiiay aragtey inaanay bohosha diinac uga laaban kaarin without losing ground, said bisinka and weye kala dul booday, son and all. The qori iis maariis wuu ka dul boodii kaarii wayeh, so he said with ciil iyo caado: Bal naag taa baadheda dayaa bal bowdayo caadanata daya bal buluq-baluq deeda daya bal inanaki sidato daya hoh iyo Boholaha Xargaga qof xiimayeh ayah xidhaan qof duulayah ayah dabraan

Panorama - Gaza: Out of the Ruins, Monday 9 February at 8.30pm on BBC One. Review after Inshallah.

Has any been looking outside wondering how they are going to get home, the wind is slaming my window about, not to mention the rain :eek: Bet all the trains are going to be delayed due to flooding :mad:

^^^I heard same as Cawaale, it does not take him out of Islam if he remains gay without denying that the act is against Islam. He will just be committing one of the major sins, right up there with those who have relations with animals and family members. Val thanks, ignore Ngonge, he thinks I am radical. :rolleyes: Ms Dd please do. Cawaale, thanks for all that, his english is not the best, so I was thinking of getting him a childrens or basic for dacwa sort of books inshallah. Ducaynase: Waaxa waalan

^^^I think it is great! Sad but funny in a strange way. It has a different feel to it. I think Abdul would appeal to basic somalis like me rather than those with degrees in somali poltics. Amin's ones sometimes goes over my head, where as this takes simple concepts. Thanks for that. About Latuuf, sorry, indeed it is a man, no idea why I wrote her all over this thread,, I don't know what I was eating that day :confused:

^^^I'm telling you, this one looks more hindi then even Ngonge :eek:

^^Maa Hindi baa?? Man everyone is jumping on this SL bandwagon.

The way of qabil is NOT going to be history in Somalia, and people who theorise about the emergency of religion as a dominate factor or replacement for the qabil factor in Somali social interactions and alliance are peddling ideals rather than reality. As it stands, regardless of whether we dislike it or not, qabil is in the foreseeable Somalia future. There is no reliable evidence to suggest otherwise, particularly since all these so called religious groups are each rooted in one clan or another. As for what you mean eradication: Well, it seems I mistakenly took military eradication as your suggestion, so my bad, sorry. However it would seem to be the only plausible suggestion, because eradication by re-programming and re-educating the people who are in these “Islamic groups” requires an environment where they are the weaker, controlled subjects without any control or say over their destiny, it also requires technological and unavailable resources and stable environment. I’m sure you are aware that Saudi Arabia who launched this same brainwashing and re-engineering subjects who were adopting harmful interpretation of Islam has not been all that successful despite the resources that were poured in. Likewise in the UK, the idea has not passed the proposal stages despite many attempts to try and launch it. Considering it has not worked in stable, richer countries, who have dominate and almost completely control of similar groups, it would be illogical to think that it would work in Somalia where they [Who require re-education] have the space, weapon, dedicated followers, foreign backers and the superiority and control of most of the country. If anything iyaga aya re-education saminayah.

^^Well I will use the computer, you can direct from your bed. lol Okay Ms DD it is then

^^^Not true, he told me something else :eek: He said, he would be more than happy to marry you, but he knows you would say no. How is your holiday going?? I agree, you can be friends with male under strange circumstances, but even if you are sure of your intentions, you can never be sure of theirs, and they might have the wrong end of the stick. Best to just get them to admit it and then move beyond it, rather then keeping it in the closet and letting him have false hope. After that you can be friends. I can be very good friends with none- Somali, none- African males

I hate that word, eradicating :eek: :eek: By advocating such move, you are as bad as them. Acuudubililah, no one wins in Somali warfare. In any case, regardless of what Islamic group they are, when someone attempts to "eradicate" them, ninkaast qabilikiis baa soo taagan, that is Somali politics for you. Maybe selective eradication for those who have no clan that defend them is what always happens.