Aaliya; Wlc to my side dear sis, lakiin Iraqi men are like Syrian men, like Egyptian men, Like Saudi men, like Asian men= less freedom then Somali men, their women are NOT are free and independent as SOMALI women, and they are more controlling (or rather take care of their women) so if you are not use to it, it will drive you up the wall. London seamen/ old Somali couples are great, the husband moves out and lives across the road when he reaches 60-70 without divorcing or re-marrying. Walahi I think that is classic, he comes home for lunch or dinner and sometimes stays over. It is so accepted and normal, this is so cool. Foreign men expect you to be literally there till death, no space. P.s. But wa waxad isla garatan, if you can communicate, know each other well and respect each other you will work it out, somehow! P.s.s. Good luck sister

Adam is in demand, Asga uun baa PM-ka diri kaar, wa one way system! Then you have to reply in public lol

LOOOOOOL loool, weliba iyad ba so taagan!! Loool Classic loool thanks Aaliya for the laugh! lol I feel for the kids, miskeen

Ailamos: Are you offended I think he was joking, dont be so sensative. Sherban I will answer you in the weekend inshallah, as long as you promise not to get upset or take it personal.

Looool @ The average American doesn't even know where (and what) Europe is! I watched that youtube video too, but I am sure the awareness level is not THAT low across the country. When and IF you ever call me up on it, I will explain it. and yes I did have to use it, 9/11 means different thing to people from the East.- half serious

^^^Ngonge let it go will ya, circle line baad noqotey! she is never going to see your point.

^^Then it will be just another "muslim" mosque/ prayer hall, and what is the use of having another one. Really? The fact people know and oppose or support this is a good thing, it means they are talking and this could lead to better interaction and coordination between the communities.

Sherban Shabeel: I think a cohesion center (as seeker and me said above) is just what that area needs and more appropriate than just a prayer place. I don’t think it is acceptable to build anything as such on ground zero itself, but I think a center for cohesion and understanding will be ideal somewhere it that area, because it signifies for the west at least the impact and influence of misinformation and misunderstanding between communities.

Juxa, you know you say that we say whatever, riffi and then have cake iyo barris. I think other people really don’t mix and so sensitive about each other. They don’t talk and tease so cuqdad bey la jifaan. Can you imagine san wax uu mago in real life ama I copy dialects and take the pis*s iyo sidaa ada adigu farah uu fiqfiq burco style is acceptable here where everyone acts like they are walking on egg shells :rolleyes: P.s. You think everyone who is not from hophop iyo xafadi dheer something is from SL. No wonder you think Nuune is SL. P.s.s. I have new jokes iyo chat up lines from your endz.

There are plans to build a 13 story $100 million Islamic cultural center and mosque a couple blocks from Ground Zero So it is not ground Zero, it is near it. Ground Zero can be a memorial, or a park or garden or even remain empty. But really keep the whole area Muslim free because Muslims caused the death of so many just increases the fear people have of Islam and Muslims.

Originally posted by muriidi: what's wron with them ? .. send u.s. troops to france .. hahaha lool

Seeker if that is th case, then I am all for it! See if you can find something on it I hate people/ communities who spend billions on building a mosque which is used just for praying and remains empty the rest of the time!

^^^Because there is nothing to defend and JB is away partying, did you not know today is May 18th?? since SL ciidi kama xiigto. LOOOOL Walahi C&H I nearly choked on lunch @ Odaygi waan cafiyey aniga iyo Ibtina we came together Hahaha

^^I disagree, we cannot afford to hide! We have to be open and not always act so gulity! There are opinions out there that say that Muslims should be respectful of the lives lost due to Islamic terrorist actions and build elsewhere. I don’t agree with these people. It would be a nice open Muslim center to look at issues like cohesion and greater understanding between communities. We as Muslims should not have to provide apologies for the actions of individuals, whether terrorist or murders or rapist!. Other people say that the mosque is an olive branch and not gloating, where people will come and pray daily. I am fine with it as long as it is NOT just a place of prayer, if they want a place JUSt for praying then it can be anywhere. It needs to provid answers to all the people who come or attack it/ Islam While some say compromise and dedicate one side the building to a memorial of the lives lost and educate against the stereotype of muslims are terrorist. A Memorial cannot be done as it goes against Islam. BUt educating people I think is a great idea.

Originally posted by chocolate & honey: quote:C&H, inappropriate thread, yes, performing at a funeral NO; let’s not get too ahead. Al shabaab is not a rumor or something he made up for attention seeking. IT is a bigger reality than everything else in Somalia (including SL) put together which is facing us. The only point I wanted to make was: It was inappropriate and it seems like you agree with me. He didnt make Al-shabaab up, we know that. I dont get this whole SL v.s. Somalia thing. I havent met a single Somali person who takes joy in South's misery(they might say iyaa isku keenay but never I'm glad). Like Juxa, I'm glad that there are some places in Somalia that are safe. There is no cuqdad. Just a misunderstanding. C&H, I was replying to Juxa comment that there are some (few) who make jokes and stupi*d comments about somalia problems. NNC: JB posted a picture comparing SYL to AL Shabaab :confused: If he called you names, THAT is wrong too. :cool:

NNC you are the only calling people names and attack other nomads, and I am glad that you also accept your own Ciyaal suqnimo. And you dirtied you own topic, and you have no one to blame but adiga, you could have just as easily said JB I want to focus on SYL and look back at the past for now, instead you threw your toys out. C&H, inappropriate thread, yes, performing at a funeral NO; let’s not get too ahead. Al shabaab is not a rumor or something he made up for attention seeking. IT is a bigger reality than everything else in Somalia (including SL) put together which is facing us. Juxa: Had someone OTHER than JB (by this I mean someone not associated with SL politics) made this comparison (say Nuune or Tuujis) I will bet you my bottom £ that people would not have got worked up. Cuqada ba ka qaadeen dadku. ibti, SYL lama kala xigo waa runtaa, lakin makula saxsantahay the issue/problem of somalia iney noqoto wax reer s-land (not all, some) ey ku jeesjeesan and they make snide and yes silly comments at every opportunity? No clearly I don’t agree with such xasiidnimo iyo uncaring nature, however I must also say that this paranoia that everyone is getting pleasure from Somalia’s current state is greatly exaggerated, just like northerners exaggerate that the rest of Somalis supported and enjoyed the bombardment of northern cities during Sayid’s time. As I said wa cuqdad, nevertheless people in this forum are always going on about our issue iyo not your business over everything Somali; Song, flag, SYL, poets, you name it; really, are kidding me? Somalinimad mey ka baxin just because they support SL, and therefore they cannot have a view? Or is the fact that they are from the North mean that they have to tiptoe around other Somalis just in case they think they am being xaasid or get joy out of others misery? If people have those kind of hung ups, it is not for other to walk around with an apology or disclaimer taped to our forehead! Malika: you must have missed the part where I said I agree it is not the right thread. the MAY 18 thread I mentioned is in the general section, not politics, and you have people saying all sorts of things. As I said it is today's reality, whether it be inability of being happy that others are nto in choas or being sensative to other people suffering or making inapporpiate comparison. Storm in a tea cup.

NNc, grow up, it is a public thread, he can post billion pictures of al Shabaab, after all AL shabaab is part of todays reality and SHOULD concern us more than the long gone SYL. If you dont want your position question or other views posted then don't make it public on here because you have no control over how or what people respond with. I can't believe I am explaining the basic of foruming to you.

^^The thread is not Ciyaal, adiga aya ciyaal aha, quite crying and bitc*hing. so people have a differen view, oye or bacthan dilac if you wish.

^^^Adigu maxaad shaqo uu yeeland weydi, wax ku qabata ayaad weyd. SYL ciidna kama xiigitid and by the looks of it you are closer to the ones you call the shitan than SYL. Are you crying because qoof ba ruunta ku sheegy? JB was not making a joke, was stating the obvious truth and although I don’t think this is the right thread to point it out, nevertheless it is the truth (sad or otherwise). If you don't like sour taste don't get into Somali issues. What is with the double standard on this forum? there are people on the May 18th Thread venting and people just ignore them and carry on with their business or if they respond do so in good nature, but suddenly things that have no Somalia/ Somaliland divide ba a little bad manner youth oodanya mind your business. When you are ciyaal, you dont know your emotions, meel faadiso until you can handle your own tears and angry. Geel ma laga dacey? :cool:

^^I so agree, I would be on the last flight out before the ban to less petty country.

^^Oh please, spare me the drama; You seem to think the burqa is more tolerated or liked and that they have a problem with just the niqab. European countries can tell the difference you say (what does that even mean?) but the public cannot and to them a Muslim is a Muslim, regardless of whether she is in tight jeans and a tiny headcover or a jalbiya or Burqa, it is the other community. The people who CAN tell the difference don't care, nor have reason to fear or buy into these random legislations.

^^^You are hardly going to see a niqabi in mini dress :confused: Chance is she is also wearing a Burqa. These are just terms it makes no difference if they ban niqab, burqa, dresses, headscraf.... It will affect the same community.

A 60-year-old lawyer ripped a Muslim woman's Islamic veil off in a row in a clothing shop in what police say is France's first case of "burka rage". The astonishing scene unfolded during a weekend shopping trip after the woman lawyer took offence at the attire of a fellow shopper resulting in argument during which the pair came to blows before being arrested. It came as racial tensions grow in the country as it prepares to introduce a total ban on burkas and other forms of religious dress which cover the face. Future of Belgium under threat A 26-year-old Muslim convert was walking through the store in Trignac, near Nantes, in the western Loire-Atlantique region, when she overhead the woman lawyer making "snide remarks about her black burka". A police officer close to the case said: "The lawyer said she was not happy seeing a fellow shopper wearing a veil and wanted the ban introduced as soon as possible." At one point the lawyer, who was out with her daughter, is said to have likened the Muslim woman to Belphegor, a horror demon character well known to French TV viewers. Belphegor is said to haunt the Louvre museum in Paris and frequently covers up his hideous features using a mask. An argument started before the older woman is said to have ripped the other woman's veil off. As they came to blows, the lawyer's daughter joined in. "The shop manager and the husband of the Muslim woman moved to break up the fighting," the officer said. All three were arrested and taken to the local gendarmerie for questioning. A spokesman for Trignac police said that two complaints had been received, with the Muslim woman accusing the lawyer of racial and religious assault. The latter, in turn, had accused her opponent of common assault. The French parliament has adopted a formal motion declaring burkas and other forms of Islamic dress to be "an affront to the nation's values." Some have accused criminals, from terrorists to shoplifters, of wearing veils to disguise themselves. A ban, which could be introduced as early as the autumn, would make France the second country after Belgium to outlaw the Islamic veil in public places. But many have criticised the anti-burka lobby, which includes the French President Nicolas Sarkozy, for stigmatising Muslim housewives. Many French woman from council estates are forced to wear the veils because of pressure from authoritarian husbands. The promise of a ban has prompted warnings of racial tensions in a country which is home to some five million Muslims – one of the religion's largest communities in Europe. Mr Sarkozy's cabinet is to examine a draft bill which will impose one-year prison sentences and fines of up to £14,000 on men who force their wives to wear a burka. Women themselves will face a smaller fine of just over £100 because they are "often victims with no choice in the matter", says the draft. The law would create a new offence of "incitement to cover the face for reasons of gender". And it would state: "No one may wear in public places clothes that are aimed at hiding the face." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7735607/France-has-first-burka-rage-incident .html

^^Faheema can't do that, she will suffer in slience, but her looks kill

^^^Use my status, chew razor and eat lemon kind of feeling? You need anger managment yarrey!