I don't know how I missed this topic..lol Here my own dream country : The Nomadic Peoples of OG_Girl is a tiny, pleasant nation, remarkable for its burgeoning camel population. Its hard-nosed, intelligent population of 5 million enjoy a sensible mix of personal and economic freedoms, while the political process is open and the people's right to vote held sacrosanct. The enormous, corrupt government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Education, and Healthcare. The average income tax rate is 31%, but much higher for the wealthy. A large private sector is led by the Pizza Delivery, Trout Farming, and Furniture Restoration industries. Crime is relatively low, thanks to the all-pervasive police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. OG_Girl's national animal is the camel and its currency is the shilin. :cool: :cool: Salam

Qurac, there is NO contradic or confuse at all. What I said makes perfect sense. If you choose NOT to believe... Be sure to blame your own close mindedness and inability to accept the possibility you are wrong about something instead of attacking others however.I understand. Needs a double digit IQ to comprehend after all. No worries Be Happy Salam

Eeedo, things should change. These old geezes should go. They making young generation sick like them. I would like to say to them that they should differentiate between a government and a national homeland, and would like to tell them my story. The Siyad Bare's government imprisoned my grand father for more than 5 years, during which he suffered a lot.I been told all this when I was just 2 to 6 years old...was a lot of horor stories But I was relised that NO point of all bad memories and feelings towards my country. to get rid of it..I started to read about my country , educate my self. I just don't know. One should move on , we can't live with past.Can I change any thing?NO...Siyaad Bare gone and his regime... what shall I do? take revenge from innocent people cause simply happened to be from his sub clan? or I hate ALL somalis ? Just isn't right. Salam

The patriot, you know what I would do with you? I would make you and people like your mentality work as demostic labours in industries ..cause you have NO brain to use it Salam

My grand father from Qabridahare. But my dad and I never seen that part of Africa... Only African country I ever been is Egypt my mom's country. Salam

Well, We are officially opposition if they VOTE for him !! No violent please if bloodshed request, I want no part of it...sorry Agree? Salam

LOOL@The patriot...calm down inabti. This wont work with me. tell this who cares clanish not Moi. Just educating you. 14 years ..THERE IS NO CLAN CAN DEFEAT OTHER CLAN WHAT EVER MAJORITY OR MINORITY period!!! As I said we all swim or sink . Salam

See adero, we can understand each other if we talk in civilize way..not I have my spot..is called our spot. . I will be the leader of the part..let us see if we still can agree ...lool What you say? I am younger, more educated..I speak Arabic, English French and some Amharic ..you know we need Amharic ...Ethiopian can't talk shiit about us..I will catch them !!..Follow me adero Salam

Mali Girl, I don't like it. And I will be mo'areth from now ..heh...let us see who will win Salam

Easy on the copy and paste. This is discussion thread. people exchanging their point of view and you come copy and paste what other's wrote or their own point of view!! Salam

yeah, you can say I am sexist... but where you want move? Oooh Abdullahi Yusuf?? Wont bother me at all. I always can be opposition...you did not answer my question what is your plan? I can accept you in my part..I wont ask you clan ID I promise .

Thanks! I knew you have a good heart adeero..you wouldn't exclude me from your pradise Land ...I mean Somali Land! Now,"Don't cry like a woman for Issue you couldn't defend like a man" ...or some thing like that Adero go school and learn politics . Clan can't be a nation. Salam

I am Also somali Land citizen...We ALL happy---will you? You couldn't debate so now you ruining this thread huh? Good adeero. Since we agree...which one you vote for ;for our Somali Republic? Dr Adow or Abdullahi Yusuf? My self I backed my bags and want to start opposition part in Somali parliment... what is your plan.. Don't say I want a country cause You are not happy... I don't mind to be member in my part ..if you prove your criminal record is clean Salam

No one cares adero. Just don't come foodley things when you are grown up person with beard!! :rolleyes: If you want to debate politics debate as a man if NOT I aint know much about clan division. YOU CAN'T DROP WHAT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE IT!!.. IS THERE SUCH SOMALILAND CITIZEN!! I doubt!! Salam

Well, eedo, I would back and say is ALL Intrest. The regime had intrest to work for them and the people have intrest too, is always two way of intrest. There was closest relatives couldn't acheave!!. About civil war..there was a lot of reasons why was civil war.If I am not mistaking started way before last regime but once got expolded!!... We all swim or sink ..as simple as that!!! Seems Somalis hard to understand that. Salam

Naah, he aint my real uncle. My dad tought me to call elders if they somali adeero or eedo., if they are Arab abti or habyer. Salam

YEP... you are somali citizen from Somalia.. drop Somalilander citizen and that if your grand father from Hargeysa or if you were there before 1960!!.. Drop it adeero..see how weak your Somaliland ish!!!! Adeero, Somalia can't be divided. Wont work. If you aint happy fight for justice, freedom of speach...be opposition.. but I am mad at you so I want have a country..wont work..that is foodley things not grown up people. Don't hate, I am just opening your eyes that is ALL.You cannot accept the truth when it is not in your favour!! Thank you.

Adeero, Still, I believe Qabridahare is Somali Land and If you check other thread you copied or quoted me from ... There is Law in Somalia and was signed 1964 saying " Every Somali from Oggadenia and NFD" are somali citizens any time any where in this planet. Adeer , seems you don't know what you call your self "Anti"... you just full of hate. By the way your northern clan are in Qabridare and jigjiga, shilabo...and every where from Oggadenia!!. We are same neighbourhood...would they be Somaliland citizen and I am not? hmm how if not by Clan things? Adeero learn how to deffer between nation or country and Clanish... choose one You can't have BOTH. Salam

Well, adeero, I am careless where were born ...Obviously from some where in Badeyah or under the tree! ALL I care :rolleyes: . But If you want to opposite keep your hate agenda away. We want a nation , a goverment. Got me??? :rolleyes: Salam

Qurac , speak for your self. Is matter for me and for a lot of people. Law and Rules should be respected from both sides Goverment and Citizens , that if you want to have a nation BUT if you want Clan state go ahead ALL you need is to name these Clans whom are NOT allowed to be part of your Clanish State!! Oh incase you did not know somalia republic rules is here " every Somali from Oggadenia or NFD is automatically Somali citizen ...That is why Adam Gabyow who was from NFD and educated and work in Nairobi when he ran to Somalia he became highest official in Somali melitary! Adeer go read and study instead wasting your time..who is qabiil this or Qabiil that!! Salam

So, the question now is, does Somalia need a man with such a background? People here are too old and lost their memory or they think we are little kids!!! You would have a word if you did not say I am not from Somalia but Somalilander citizen!!! Save your lame for your self adero!! I would like to say to you that you should differentiate between a government and a national homeland.. Abdullahi Yusuf or who ever don't own our homeland!. Goverment go and other goverment come, but homeland never change! Salam

There are certain rules and regulations that govern who is a Somalilander and who is not. What is the use of borders unless they are their to seperate politically between countries. Rules!! yes Rules. As a Law student I want know these laws and how can be practically on the ground? Borders! yeah other good thing.. can I know where somaliland border.. as I know still Sool and Sanaag... Still under Puntland Goverment!! Man.. this wont work at all... you can fool with this with some one have only clanish mentality but some one knows Intenational Law and politics, naah , always there is holes . every one can play with it! And believe me wont be easy as you think!! Salam

Well done Otali and Samurai Warrior ...we always need balance. I was thinking like Arab election.. Is just for one guy NO Competitions then they come out with 99.99% of the votes goes to the leader!!. Hmm still I am not sure Keep comming! Hold on, Foreighn ties whith Ethiopia :eek: :eek: here I disagree Salam

Xarago, you are good Qurac, Iran not Arab my friend , they are Persian . Suldaanka , I have other question.. Somalis as a nomads they used to go where there is water and food for their animals... If one of them went there and sattle down without having any clan connection ..ofcourse that person wont be home owner as is nomad from Badeyah!! Will be somalilander citizen ?? Salam

I don't know this new guy, I never heard about him either before SOL. ** thinking loudly, shall we try the new one since A/Yusuf is bad for sure...or we go with Arab proverb " the evil you know better than an angel you don't know *** I don't know.. seems I will establish a new opposition part . I just can be a great opposition leader Salam