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Posts posted by Illyria
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Somalis by nature are federalists.
And as the man said, it is about the PEOPLE, and not about the system.
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So now reer Hawd are considered reer Koonfureed?
What is your definition of the word "Deelqaaf" in poetry?
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The good news is the Constitutional Court will be submitted to the parliament for approval, and will be in place before the Council elections begin. This should lay to rest main concerns by Midnimo and Udad parties. so after all Faroole is listening.
And the deadline for applicants for the local council elections is set on May 11th.
Qabashada liisaska 11-ka May ayaa ugu danbeysa
Guddiga doorashooyinka Puntland TPEC ayaa shaaciyey xiliga ugu danbeysa ee qabashada liisaska musharaxiinta golayaasha deegaanka degmooyinka Puntland oo ah 11 May,2013.
Doorashada ayaa dhici doonta 30 June,2013 ,waxana ururada siyaasada Puntland ay u tartami doonaan kuraasta degmooyinka Puntland oo doorashadu si isku mid ah uga dhici doonto.
Gudoomiyaha guddiga doorashooyinka Dr.Maxamed Xasan Barre oo saxaafada shir ugu qabtey Garowe maanta 06 May,2013 ayaa sheegey inay ku wargelinayaan ururada siyaasada Puntland muddada ugu danbeysa ee soo gudbinayaan araajida musharaxiinta u taagan doorashada degmooyinka.
''Waxaan la socod siineynaa ururada siyaasada inay ugu danbeyso soo gudbinta liisaska 11 May,2012 saacadu markay tahay 5:00 galabnimo'' ayuu yiri gudoomiyuhu.
Waxa uu sheegey inay socoto diyaarinta doorashada oo uu rajo wanaagsan ka muujiyey dhankooda ''TPEC'' iyo dhanka dowladdaba oo sida uu hadalka u dhigey geedi socodkan hormuud ka ahayd.
Dhinaca kale Gudoomiyaha ayaa xusey inay soco hawsha lagu dhisayo maxakamada dastuuriga ah ee Puntland oo uu ku tilmaamay mid muhiim u ah doorashada dhaceysa keenteyna baahi loo qabo xiligan in la dhiso.
''Madaxweynuhu waxa uu soo saarey wareegtada maxkamada ,gacanta ayaa lagu hayaa sharciyadeedi ,ka dib ayaa loo gudbinayaa Barlamanka kalfadhigooda 15 June,2013 ,waxana muhiim ah jiritaankeeda ka hor intaan doorashada la gelin'' ayuu yiri Maxamed Xasan Barre.
Doorashooyinka golayaasha deegaanka degmooyinka Puntland ee dhacaya 30-ka June ayaa lagu wadaa in laga codeeyo dhamaan degmooyinka ,waxana ururada siyaasadu u tartamayaan hanashada codka shacabka Puntland.
GAROWE ONLINE
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Without taking anything away from the vocals of the two ladies on display, I take issue with the lyrics from three angles.
Firstly, there is a "Deelqaaf" in the poetic composition of the verses, which the literati would have a field day, if they ever bother to avail it a worthy critique.
Secondly, this line, "anigu jeesbaan noqdee" loses the argument for the secessionists winning it for the unionists. it finally dawns on the secessionists the reality of their being a "Jees" rather than the after-sought "Ardaa" of what was then the British Somaliland, and facing up to the untenable reality at last settling for the triangle, 1/3 of the former colony. So "Jees" is now the brand?
And finally, in these lines, there is a fallacy, which the SNL Northerners have been peddling for years in their claim that they were the nationalist pioneers of the union, but others were too polite to puncture a hole through their chauvinistic absurdities. They played a role, but the truth remains there were two factors that influenced the SNL folks to come to Xamar: the nationalist campaign fervour of SYL in all Somali territories including NFD, Somali Galbeed, Jibouti, and of course British Somaliland, and the bellows of USP who saw their place at the table of the union.
"jeer hore waa taad midnimo, jid dheer iisoo martee ha jeedane joog walaal."
But then again, you will all be singing its praise as if the second coming.
As you were,
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Things are coming together rather nicely.
The election commission is indicating the presidential election will take place in a matter of days. The delay is caused by a minor dispute within the reer Gedo delegates that is being ironed out now. so watch the space.
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Ina buura fuul, some of us were not born yesterday but had been around to know the history of the region and its peoples.
Now listen to Hilowle Adam discussing the heart of the issue. And tell me what he is talking about.
And by the way Shalaad Dhalataye, Waa la shubi jiray.
Macallinka;946285 wrote:lool dream on miskiin. You Know if I say no to this project nothing will be accomplished you know that and Zack and his crew know that.loolThat is why the current delegation is divided into three block (i was given one, others were given one, and the rest of the D block was given one ) what does that tell you?So, be quite and appreciate you have some influential leaders from Gedo are on this project and pray it stays that way otherwise ....waa laguu yaabaa loool -
NN and Zack
You touched a raw nerve which Dabrow and Gabal were not expecting you would.
Let me add if rear Gedo choose to abstain from participating in the Kismayo conference, which I doubt 'cos their traditional leaders are on board, the same thing that happened to reer Galgaduud in 1998 (to participate in the foundation of Puntland) would happen to rear Gedo in 2013. I am hopefull they learnt their lesson and will not repeat that mistake.
Mind you the group now announcing their grievances are allied with the FG via Saacid and most are of reer Galgaduud.
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Hmmm, and what can we make of this picture. the looks and the hand-shake.
Dubious smiles. Stares away. Eyes never meeting.
Kenyatta looking towards Desalegn. Desalegn looking away. Hassan uncertain with his hands sandwiched in between.
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Baashi,
What measurements are we using to determine whether the conference will be success or failure?
Granted we cannot foresee the future, but I think promises will be made followed by contingent clauses be met by the Somali leadership, which could not be met.
I am however still convinced nothing major changed from the old conundrum of:
Somali leaderships: As always asking the IC to help change the situation. "We cannot do it alone even though we will not listen to your edict or dicta" they will repeat.
IC: Show us you can be trusted, are capable of implementing plans, and can turn them into measurable tangibles.
Notice one is contingent upon the other, and one cannot be enforced sans the other.
And unless Somalia develops independent institutions that could be relied upon not only by Somalis, but by IC partners no country will be forthcoming to waste its resources in Somalia. Nariobi will remain the capital. Xamar will be dim. And the country will be built from the periphery to the center, and not the other way round, as Pres. Hassan and Co would want. Hargeysa, Garowe, and Kismayo are hard examples the IC cannot overlook, even if they wanted to.
And let us not forget the economic woes and financial crises facing Europe and America.
So, all in all, a slight improvement, but no major change. And Somalis as always will be beating up the drums of the change that never was.
As you said, let us how it pans out.
Baashi;945723 wrote:IIIyria,My reading is the conference will be successfull and interest groups will pledge a load of green stash. So in the international arena I inclined to back president Hassan in his search for reconstruction fund. -
Press Release
For Immediate Release ,Violation of Federal Constitution by President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud
Jubaland community is increasingly concerned with the attitude of the federal government of Somalia with respect to Jubaland communities and gross violation of Somalia Federal constitution. Since the election of President Hassan, last year, the only active file in the Office of the President, Prime Minister and the cabinet was Jubaland State formation and its communities.
The antagonistic attitude developed by the federal government towards Jubaland people is pushing the community to unchartered territories. Somali people have adopted a new constitution based on the federal system of governance and expect the president of Somalia to respect.
The allocation of powers of the federal constitution is very clear where most powers lie with the federal member states. However, President Hassan is continuously violating constitution, particularly, section Five Articles 49, 50, 52, 54 and section 15, article 142 of Somalia federal constitution.
In reference to the president’s statement yesterday at the Somalia Federal Parliament in respect to Jubaland State, it is a clear indication that President Hassan is against embracing federal system of governance adopted by constituency assembly last year and the people’s choice with respect to the formation of Jubaland State of Somalia as enshrined in the Federal constitution.
As a result,
We call upon the Somalia Federal Parliament to investigate President Hassan’s gross violation of the federal constitution and continued unilateral actions without participation & proper consultation with federal member States. We call upon peace loving international community to intervene before it’s too late to arrest the situation.
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Oodweyne,
That argument would have made sense, only if it did not discount two major factors.
i. The nature of the conference,
ii. The organisers of the conference - bearing in mind the organisers invited multiple times and asked the FG leadership to participate, and actually lead the process.
Will develop those two points another day.
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So Baashi the question is how does this hinder the Kismayo conference?
I am suspecting the intent behind IGAD's point 10 is to remove the FG from the process, and to advance the federal state formation process which benefits the Kismayo conferenc.
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Baashi,
That is an astute observation on your part. I will ponder over that point.
Baashi;945703 wrote:Illyria,My reading is president Hassan has scored a major goal. Think about it -- Gathering in Kismayo is under the microscope! The validity and legality of the gathering is under review by IGAD whose boys are in the line of fire. IGAD wants to get back on the saddle, charge forward and take on AS. Kismayo has become an issue for everyone to the point where IGAD observation is necessitated. -
Oodweyne,
I would agree President Hasan's 5 pillar plan was supported, but, as I read it, the thorny issue of Kismayo has been taken over by IGAD. Once the confidence building mission ends, IGAD owns the process and will come upon with a list of requirements only consulting the FG as needed, but the ownership is gone.
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Baashi,
My sources in Kismayo indicated a few days ago that they were waiting for a delegation from IGAD states to conclude the administration forming process. Does point 10 have any relation to that, I do not know, but there is something being cooked, and the Somali leadership, that include Xamar, Kismayo or elsewhere, are none the wiser, or so it seems.
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Xiin,
The trick about interpreting communiques is suspending your bias, and reading with near impossible objectivity. Short of that, you will miss its meaning granted you were not part of the dialogue that lead to the bullet points, and do not have an insider perspective. So we have to rely on what is being written, how it is presented, and where in the communique a point is being inserted. President Hasan and camp will not be completely happy with the Kismayo front, but will find a way to spin it for local consumption.
A protocol related question:
Why was the President is received at the airport by a minister? When did this trend start happening?
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A couple of things to point out:
Notice how IGAD clearly states:
7. Reiterated the ownership of the Somali federal government to lead and set the priorities for its stabilization and reconstruction in an all-inclusive manner;
But not so where concerns Kismayo,
10. Decided to conduct a confidence-building mission to Kismayu led by the IGAD Executive Secretary and composed of representatives of the federal government of Somalia and one senior delegate from each member state of IGAD with the aim of assessing the situation and submitting a report to the IGAD summit to be held on the sidelines of the upcoming AU summit in May 2013;
And these two points: One is to lend its support to the FG,
- Leadership of the government of the Federal Republic of Somalia in the process;
And the other is to criticise FG's handling of the PFC, and lack of inclusivity and consultation of stakeholders in the process.
- Respect of the provisional constitution of the Federal Republic of Somalia; - All inclusive consultative process with the peoples of Somalia;
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It looks like IGAD wants to take over the process of forming federal member states losing confidence in the Somali leadership whom they initially thought could bring people together. Not a good sign when your backers and financiers take back the presumed empowerment extended in earlier rounds of discussions.
On one hand, IGAD is partially and seemingly supporting the FG while on the other they are encouraging the formation of federal states under the command, which the federal leadership was unable to successfully manage.
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10. Decided to conduct a confidence-building mission to Kismayu led by the IGAD Executive Secretary and composed of representatives of the federal government of Somalia and one senior delegate from each member state of IGAD with the aim of assessing the situation and submitting a report to the IGAD summit to be held on the sidelines of the upcoming AU summit in May 2013;
11. Underlined the speedy implementation of the Integration of Forces Plan including the enrolment and training of young officers and NCOs; and underscored the need for coordinated efforts of all stakeholders under the leadership of the Somali government;
12. Noted with appreciation the continued commitment of the AMISOM forces, the courage and commitment of the Somali National Security Forces, and the support by all troops/ police contributing countries (Burundi, Djibouti, Kenya, Nigeria, Sierra Leone and Uganda) as well as Ethiopia;
13. Appealed to the troop contributing countries/ police contributing countries and the Somali National Force to expand their operations and immediately recover the remaining areas controlled by Al Shabab;
14. Reaffirmed the strong solidarity among IGAD members and their commitment to continue supporting the government-led reforms in the various priority areas, and in light of upcoming International Conferences on Somalia in particular the London conference to be held on 7 May 2013, appealed to the international community to redouble their support to the stabilization, reconstruction and long-term development of Somalia, on the basis of interalia the principles referred to in paragraph 6;
15. Noted UNSC Resolution 2093 and expressed the hope that it will enhance the reconstruction efforts and the role of Somalia in the region; that it will build on progress made by AMISOM operations, and that it will form a sound basis for the reconstruction and development of Somalia;
16. Underlined that the fight against Al Shabab remains the primary concern in ensuring Somalia’s stabilization and reconstruction;
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COMMUNIQUE OF THE 21ST EXTRAORDINARY SUMMIT OF HEADS OF STATE AND GOVERNMENT OF IGAD, ADDIS ABABA, ETHIOPIA, May 3, 2013
6. Noted with appreciation and welcomed the Somali Federal government’s document titled National Stabilization Plan and reiterated the need for all processes particularly the ongoing efforts towards setting up Somali regional administration and stabilization efforts, to be anchored on the following principles:
- Leadership of the government of the Federal Republic of Somalia in
the process;
- Respect of the provisional constitution of the Federal Republic of Somalia; - All inclusive consultative process with the peoples of Somalia;
- supportive role of IGAD based on the priorities of the Somali government; and
- Fighting the Al Shabab as the primary focus of the Somali Federal government; AMISOM; regional and international partners; And further requested the Somali federal government to align the document with the aforementioned agreed five principles.
7. Reiterated the ownership of the Somali federal government to lead and set the priorities for its stabilization and reconstruction in an all-inclusive manner;
9. Called for a commitment by all stakeholders to support the ongoing political outreach and reconciliation processes led by the Somali Federal government, and the building of the capacity of the Federal Government of Somalia particularly on governance, economic development and security sector reform;
10. Decided to conduct a confidence-building mission to Kismayu led by the IGAD Executive Secretary and composed of representatives of the federal government of Somalia and one senior delegate from each member state of IGAD with the aim of assessing the situation and submitting a report to the IGAD summit to be held on the sidelines of the upcoming AU summit in May 2013;
14. Reaffirmed the strong solidarity among IGAD members and their commitment to continue supporting the government-led reforms in the various priority areas, and in light of upcoming International Conferences on Somalia in particular the London conference to be held on 7 May 2013, appealed to the international community to redouble their support to the stabilization, reconstruction and long-term development of Somalia, on the basis of interalia the principles referred to in paragraph 6;
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Xiin
I agree something is definitely not right tho' I do not know what. I do not know who is advising him.
A trend I observe in President Hasan is line with others who came before him in that he is acting as if he gained power by way of overthrowing an unpopular king, and as if he has a complete authority over the territories. Almost as if he is a President for a country other than the Somalia that has been stagnant and caught up in n perpetual civil war for over 20 years. Who are his advisers? Someone please wake him up from the snore.
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Puntland Government Position on London Conference II for Somalia
PRESS RELEASE
03 May 2013
Puntland Government values the commendable efforts and role Her Majesty Government continues to play in Somalia. Puntland is ready to contribute towards rebuilding a prosperous future for the Federal Republic of Somalia and its people.
Puntland contributes to peace and stability in Somalia. The State consists of an area in northern Somalia approximately one-third of surface land and 1,300-km coastline in Somalia. Puntland played an instrumental role in the national constitutional process and ending the transition in Somalia. The State has also been at the forefront in the fight against extremism, terrorism and piracy in Somalia.
For years, Puntland has expressed at international public forums its genuine concerns regarding the misbalanced international assistance to Somalia. As such, Puntland hoped that the London Conference of May 7, 2013, would propose a new comprehensive approach to international engagement in Somalia that takes into account existing realities on the ground and Puntland’s rights, as accorded by the Provisional Federal Constitution (PFC).
President of the Somali Federal Government (SFG) H.E. Hassan Sheikh Mohamud paid an overnight official visit to Puntland on April 28, 2013. Despite the short notice, a big welcome ceremony was prepared for the President’s delegation and the President of Puntland, H.E. Abdirahman Mohamed Mohamud, hosted well-organized dinner at State House in Garowe. A large audience attended the State dinner from different sectors of civil society, which offered President Mohamud an opportunity to address the people of Puntland, and the Somali people more generally.
Puntland prepared a thorough agenda to discuss with the visiting SFG delegation. The agenda points included: a) implementation of SFG-Puntland Agreement of March 11, 2013; b) security cooperation; c) respect for Puntland’s constitutional rights; d) implementation of federal system; and e) serious concerns about tampering with the PFC, equitable sharing of international assistance, issues related to natural resources, and a lack of SFG consultation of national affairs with the Federated States, as sanctioned by the PFC.
President Mohamud and President Farole agreed in principle on: a) continuation of the national peace and reconciliation process; b) the eventual reintegration of Somali National Forces in a consultative process; and c) the implementation of SFG-Puntland Agreement of March 11, 2013. However, the SFG delegation arrived in Garowe without an agenda and posed major obstacles by categorically refusing to discuss the agenda of national affairs submitted by Puntland. President Mohamud’s delegation also presented obstacles to the speedy implementation of the federal system, most notably by opposing the voluntary formation of ‘Jubaland State’ in southern Somalia, in line with the PFC.
Puntland calls on Her Majesty Government to take into serious consideration existing realities in Somalia and the critical need for Federated States (Puntland) to fulfill their mandate under the PFC, on international assistance, economic matters, treaties, and important international accords (Article 54), and national security and federal affairs (Article 208).
Additionally, Puntland is seriously concerned with the tampering of the PFC, endorsed by the Roadmap Signatories in Nairobi on June 22, 2012, co-signed by the U.N. as a guarantor, and adopted overwhelmingly by the National Constituent Assembly in Mogadishu on August 1, 2012. Puntland calls on the SFG President, as Custodian of the Constitution, as well as the Speaker, and the SRSG, to launch a full inquiry urgently and to declare an explanation to the citizens of Somalia.
Regrettably, as Puntland did not receive an official invitation from any party, Puntland will not send an official delegation to attend the London Conference. Puntland will soon forward a Position Paper on Somalia to the London Conference II.
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Source: Puntland Government
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First thing that caught my eye. red lipstick on grown-up men specially Riyaal and Tuur.
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Baashi,
I do not think so with the exception of the President and his camp tho' I am not an insider, but with Silanyo and Farole abstaining from attending, it looks like an stillborn mortuus on arrival. But then again having observed the pattern of contemporary Somali leaders' actions and posture, last minute changes could emerge, and they can all show up at the last hour clamouring for attention and shortly after that all claiming victory in their morphed respective ways. Tues is a few days away so let us watch the space.
What is your reading of the events?
Baashi;945543 wrote:Illyria, Are there other significant Somali leaders showing up at this venue?
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