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To me it means one or two things. In the context of the Somali FG, it means the gov't put a plan forward, and made promises to commit itself to its implementation, therefore as the financier and backers of the gov't, "we welcome" translates to mean conditionally they [powers that be] are encouraging and supportive of the terms of the plan in front of them. And since the plan has not commenced yet, that support is contingent upon its successful implementation, Phase 1 => End. if they however deviate from the plan, then it is back to square one.
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Oodweyne,
Actaully I am not. I am briefed on the issue, and am privy to the contentious issue at the heart of the rift between the two camps. The word "whose terms" speaks to the issue and gave rise to the conflict. But we seem to be in circle not developing the debate so let us leave there for now.
I think you reading things in a back to front manner.Apparently I am reading it differently than you are which is only natural. let us agree to disagree and see what happens in the months to come.
And by same token, there is nothing in here in which the designers abs organisers of Jubbaland agenda will find it as a endorsement of their agenda by any measure of reading that could be done in this communique." -
Oodweyne,
Actually no 'cos the organisers have been saying loud and clear that they want the federal government to lead the conference, and for the FG to abide by the conditions put in place by the constitution. It is the FG which was reluctant to do its duty.
They do have the right to form a state, but they never said they wanted no guidance from the center - that is far from the facts as they are known.
I do not know whether it is a slip on your part, misunderstanding of the issue, or an intentional miscategorisation of the intents of the organisers. I will find Gaandhi and Axmed Madoobe, and Cali Madoobe's interviews.
political designers of Jubbaland were basically saying we have a right to form our own federal state without so much guidance from the centre. -
UDAD is now on board and will participate in the the local council elections.
An interview with its chairman.
UDAD oo galaysa doorashada
Urur siyaasadeedka UDAD oo horay u sheegay inaysan ka qayb galayn doorashooyinka dowladaha hoose Puntland ayaa galabta 07 May,2013 shaaciyey inay ka laabteen go'aankoodi ayna ka qaybgalayaan doorashooyinka.
30-ka June 2013 ayaa lagu wadaa inay dhacdo doorashada golayaasha deegaanka degmooyinka Puntland.
Gudoomiyaha Urur siyaasadeedka DAD-ka Siciid Faarax Sanwayne oo la hadlay Radio Garowe ayaa sheegay inay aqbaleen ka qayb galka doorashooyinka soo socda ka dib markii la shaaciyey dhisitaanka maxkamada dastuuriga ah.
''Hadii aanu helnay maxkamadii dastuuriga ahayd oo aanu horay u codsaday aad ayaan usoo dhawaynaynaa diyaarna waanu u nahay inaan ka qayb galno doorashooyinka soo socda''Ayuu yiriSiciid Sanwayne.
Siciid Faraax waxa uu sheegay inay maanta la shireen guddiga doorashooyinka Puntland,islamarkasna kala hadleen arimaha la xariira ka qaybgalkooda.
Ururka Midnimo ayaa isna qaadacey doorashooyinka ,waxana idiin soo gudbin doona go'aankooda ku aadan ka qaybgalka doorashooyika soo socda.
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Oodweyne,
Granted a great deal of goodwill was extended to the Somali gov't by the IC. will it, or how soon will it materialse is a question to ask.
The issue of federal states is actually asigned to an independent commission, upper house comprising of heads of member states, and the parliament, as stated in the constitution. So in that regard, there is very little change any one can bring to bear unless the charter is tossed to the side, an insurmountable task at this juncture.
So with regards to the Jubaland train, no discernable, substantive impact. The train will go on.
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Baashi,
I am glad you are keeping the hope alive. I might not be quite on the same boat as you yet, but I am wishing for the best, altho' havng watched repeats of this movie so many times, I was awaiting a more substantive, less dramatic directorial debut. may be it is here and I am not recognising it, but for now, will park the motor in neutral till the end of the year. if I am wrong, it is good for the country and the people, but if not, then sh1te of a meal is being served one more time to the ever so suffering public.
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The president comes across more of an activist than a leader among equals.
It is fallacies and self-aggrandisations like this I dislike in Somali politicians. The cornerstone was laid in place in Arta in 2000, following by Eldoret in 2004, and Jibouti in 2009. It is the cummulative legacy of those years and men who came before him that gave rise to the current federal government.
"In just one year the cornerstones of a new Somalia have been successfully and peacefully laid."
Hmmm,
"Progress has defied the skeptics. Somalia has rejoined the world community."
What pricked my ear however was Cameron's use of these words "The government is moving ahead under the guidance of the UN, AU, and IGAD." A hint in there.
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My initial take-away points.
It looks like the federal gov't made so many promises most of which had been welcomed except where the IC is making recommendations. Will the FG be able to deliver all those promises? Does it have the capacity and the human capital to deliver? And with the goodwill gone, and huge chunks of the public losing confidence in its ability, how will be able to turn the tide?
Of the 6 pillars, the IC will focuses on capacity building in three areas: security, justice and public financial management.
Inclusive politics, economic foundations, revenue and service will have to wait for now.
And where will the capacity come from? Who will device and manage these organisations?
The Federal Government appealed to its international partners to provide funding for Somali national plans. The Federal Government expressed its appreciation for continued bilateral support and asked partners to channel funding through mechanisms agreed with the Federal Government, such as the Special Financing Facility and the Rule of Law Fund, wherever possible.
Where is a will, there is a way, but is the will there?
We welcomed the Federal Government’s plans to resolve outstanding constitutional issues, including the sharing of power, resources and revenues between the Federal Government and the regions.
But does the FG have the vision to establish working relationship with the regions?
We encouraged the regions to work closely with the Federal Government to form a cohesive national polity consistent with the provisional constitution.
Let us wait till December to see the results.
Urged continued results-orientated support.
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Promising, but let us see how the promisary notes will be honoured come December 2013.
And my earlier concerns still stand.
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Role of Multilateral Organisations and International Support
We recognised the role of the United Nations and the African Union in Somalia and welcomed their commitment to a strengthened strategic partnership. We underlined the importance of close coordination by both organisations with the Federal Government, other international and regional organisations, and Member States. We welcomed the creation of a new UN Assistance Mission (UNSOM) in Somalia and urged the UN to deploy the mission by the target date of 3 June. We recognised the important role of Somalia’s neighbours in promoting long-term stability in the region, and encouraged IGAD to continue to work to promote dialogue and mutual understanding. We underlined the importance of EU action through its commitments in the fields of security, development and humanitarian aid. We also recognised the role of the Arab League and the Organization of Islamic Conference.
We recognised the valuable support provided by bilateral partners, and encouraged them to continue their efforts in coordination with others.
We acknowledged that the Somalia Conference was one of a series of events in 2013 aimed at providing international support to Somalia. We looked forward to the planned Special Conference on Somalia on the socio-economic development agenda in the margins of the fifth Tokyo International Conference on African Development (TICAD V) in late May. Taking note of the Federal Government’s commitment to implement the New Deal engagement in fragile states in the form of a Compact, we welcomed Somalia’s efforts to develop an overarching reconstruction plan encompassing Somali priorities on inclusive politics, security, justice, economic foundations, revenue and services. We looked forward to the EU/Somalia Conference in Brussels in September.
Conclusion
The Conference agreed that Somalia had made significant progress. We congratulated all who had made that possible, notably the Somali people, Federal Government, Members of Parliament, civil society and diaspora. We commended the sustained commitment of Somalia’s international partners, and urged continued results-orientated support. We recognised the need to consolidate progress quickly and reiterated our determination to support Somalia over the long-term.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/somalia-conference-2013-communique
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Public Financial Management
The Federal Government set out its determination to tackle corruption, and fund public services. We welcomed the Government’s four-year plan to establish transparent and effective public financial management systems. We encouraged the Federal Government to establish more robust controls through the Ministry of Finance’s operations including public reporting of budgets, expenditure and audits. We committed to coordinate assistance using the structure set out by the Government.
We acknowledged the Government’s financing gap and urgent need for short-term support to pay for salaries and operations while public financial management reforms are underway and until sufficient domestic revenues can be collected. In this context we welcomed the Federal Government’s creation of a Special Financing Facility as an early opportunity for the Federal Government to demonstrate its commitment to financial accountability and transparency.
In line with the outcomes of the G8 Foreign Ministers’ meeting, we welcomed the re-engagement of the International Financial Institutions (the World Bank, the African Development Bank, and the International Monetary Fund), including IMF recognition of the Federal Government and progress made at the Spring Meetings.
We recognised the importance of investment and economic growth to increase domestic revenue. We encouraged investment into Somalia, recognising the important role the diaspora could play.
Rationalisation of Funding
The Federal Government appealed to its international partners to provide funding for Somali national plans. The Federal Government expressed its appreciation for continued bilateral support and asked partners to channel funding through mechanisms agreed with the Federal Government, such as the Special Financing Facility and the Rule of Law Fund, wherever possible. We looked forward to development of a longer term sustainable financing architecture for Somalia including a World Bank Multi-Donor Trust Fund which will be important on the path to normalisation of Somalia’s financial relationship with the International Financial Institutions.
Stabilisation
We welcomed the Federal Government’s efforts to develop major initiatives on stabilization, including a comprehensive strategy on disengaged fighters, alternative dispute resolution and at-risk youth. The Federal Government appealed for immediate support for stabilisation projects, to enable local administrations to provide services for their people.
Refugees and Internally Displaced Persons
We recognised the importance of scaling up efforts to create the conditions for the voluntary return and reintegration of Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) and refugees, in accordance with international law. We praised neighbouring countries for providing protection and assistance for refugees, and agreed to continue supporting them in shouldering this burden. We recognised that the return of refugees and IDPs should take place within a context of increased security conditions and livelihoods opportunities. We endorsed the tripartite dialogue initiated by the Somali and Kenyan governments alongside UNHCR to develop modalities and a framework for safe, orderly, sustainable return and resettlement of Somali refugees on a voluntary basis, and looked forward to the forthcoming conference in Nairobi.
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Press release Somalia Conference 2013: Communiqué
The International Somalia Conference final communiqué.
The Somalia Conference took place at Lancaster House on 7 May 2013, co-hosted by the UK and Somalia, and attended by fifty-four friends and partners of Somalia.
We met at a pivotal moment for Somalia. Last year Somalia’s eight-year transition ended and Somalia chose a new, more legitimate Parliament, President and Government. Security is improving, as Somali and AMISOM forces, and their Ethiopian allies, recover towns and routes from Al Shabaab. The number of pirate attacks committed off the coast of Somalia has drastically reduced. The famine has receded. The diaspora have begun to return. The economy is starting to revive.
But many challenges remain. Al Shabaab is still a threat to peace and security. The constitution is not complete. Piracy and terrorism remain threats. Millions still live in Internally Displaced Persons and refugee camps. The country lacks developed government structures, schools, hospitals, sanitation and other basic services.
The Federal Government of Somalia has set out its plans to address these challenges in its Six Pillar Policy. At the Conference, the international community came together to agree practical measures to support the Federal Government’s plans in three key areas – security, justice and public financial management. The Federal Government presented its vision for the implementation of federalism, the adoption of a permanent constitution and holding of elections. We also agreed to work together to tackle sexual violence in Somalia.
We agreed that partnership between Somalia and the international community would form the basis of our future cooperation: the international community is committed to provide coordinated and sustained support for implementation of the Federal Government’s plans.
Political
We agreed that political progress remains the key to ensuring long-term stability for Somalia. We welcomed the Federal Government’s plans to resolve outstanding constitutional issues, including the sharing of power, resources and revenues between the Federal Government and the regions. We further welcomed the Government’s commitment to hold democratic elections in 2016. We reiterated our support for building capacity in democratic institutions throughout Somalia, beginning with support for local elections in Puntland next month.
We welcomed the dialogue on the future structure of Somalia that has begun between the Federal Government and the regions. We welcomed progress on forming regional administrations and looked forward to the completion of that process. We encouraged the regions to work closely with the Federal Government to form a cohesive national polity consistent with the provisional constitution.
We welcomed the IGAD Extraordinary Summit, held in Addis Ababa on 3 May under the chairmanship of Prime Minister Hailemariam Desalegn, which agreed a framework for dialogue on regional issues. We looked forward to further progress ahead of a meeting of IGAD in the margins of the African Union Summit in May.
We welcomed the dialogue between the Federal Government and Somaliland at Ankara in April 2013 to clarify their future relationship, building on the meeting at Chevening in June 2012, and welcomed the Ankara communiqué. We expressed our appreciation for the facilitating role played by Turkey.
We welcomed the protection of fundamental rights in the constitution, and the Federal Government’s commitment to uphold human rights, including by establishing an independent National Human Rights Commission. We further welcomed the Federal Government’s commitment to protect women and children, and take steps to end the involvement of children in armed conflict. We commended the recent visit of the UN Special Representative on Sexual Violence in Conflict to Somalia, and the plan for a Somali and international team of experts to make recommendations on how sexual violence could be addressed. We agreed on the important role a free and independent media should play in Somalia, and welcomed the Federal Government’s commitment to investigate and prosecute those responsible for the killing of journalists, and to promote press freedom.
Security
We shared the Federal Government’s view that security is the essential prerequisite for further progress in all other spheres. We commended the bravery and commitment of Somali and AMISOM forces, and those fighting alongside them. We expressed appreciation to countries contributing troops and police. We applauded the forces’ successes in freeing towns and routes from Al Shabaab. We reiterated the need for adequate and sustained funding for AMISOM, welcomed partners’ support to date, and called upon new donors to contribute.
We welcomed the Federal Government’s determination to take responsibility for providing Somalia’s security. We welcomed the Government’s plans for national security architecture and for developing its armed forces, including the integration of militias, and police. We welcomed the commitment to ensure that these security structures are accountable, inclusive, proportionate and sustainable; and respect a civilian chain of command, the rule of law, and human rights. We recognised the need for support to help the Government manage disengaged fighters.
We agreed to support implementation of the Federal Government’s security plans including through existing structures. We also agreed to provide assistance which should be coordinated by the Federal Government.
We welcomed the extension of AMISOM’s mandate for a further year in UN Security Council Resolution 2093. We noted the partial suspension of the arms embargo as recognition of political progress, and urged the Federal Government to fulfil its obligations to provide safeguards to protect Somalia’s citizens and neighbours.
We commended the Somalis and international partners for progress made in combating piracy over the last year including the efforts of Puntland and other regional or local governments and welcomed the Federal Government’s Maritime Resource and Security Strategy. We reiterated our determination to work with Somalia to eradicate piracy and other maritime crimes, and expressed our support for the Federal Government’s ongoing efforts to establish internationally recognised Somali waters, which will help it protect its abundant maritime resources and revitalise economic activities, as well as end toxic dumping and illegal fishing. We welcomed international support to develop Somali maritime security capacities and looked forward to the UAE conference in Dubai on 11-12 September. We welcomed partners’ continued efforts to bring to justice to those behind piracy and positive, ongoing initiatives in Somalia and the region. We recognized the need for these efforts to be complemented by work on land to generate alternative livelihoods and support communities affected by piracy.
Justice and Policing
We welcomed the Federal Government’s vision for equal access for all to a robust, impartial and effective justice system. We commended its justice action plan setting out immediate priorities for assistance, developed at the National Dialogue on Justice in Mogadishu, and applauded this inclusive dialogue with stakeholders.
We welcomed the Government’s four-year action plan to create an accountable, effective and responsive police service for Somalis. We agreed to align our assistance for both justice and police behind Federal Government plans. We looked forward to the establishment of a Rule of Law Fund, under the leadership of the Federal Government, and invited UNDP and the Federal Government to present the agreed governance and technical arrangements for the fund at the Brussels Conference in September.
We committed to support the Government’s efforts to combat terrorism. An effective and secure criminal justice system, including the establishment and maintenance of prisons administered with respect for human dignity, will be central to Somalia’s ability to tackle terrorism in a human rights-compliant manner and reduce the threat from Al Shabaab in the long-term.
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Xiinow dulqaad badnidee!
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The problem is deeper I hink than meets the eye. What is worrisome tho' is that his supporters can not see the falsihoods and the inconsistencies, and when questioned instead of admiting an error in their wasys, they cry foul, and start invoking the fifth.
Now that he is caught red-handed, Xasan needs to come clean and mend his ways. Otherwise, he can not be the president for all in this way.
And it is not just Kismayo, it goes further.
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Legality, is a sub-set, and is borne out of legitimacy, the real influence in politics rests with the locals. The men and women who had been deliberating their providence for months in Kismaayo and had been planning their future for years.
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Opening Address by the President of the Federal Republic of Somalia
SOMALIA CONFERENCE IN LONDON, 7th MAY 2013
OPENING ADDRESS BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF SOMALIA
H.E. HASSAN SHEIKH MOHAMUD
A few weeks ago, I planted a young sapling in the garden at Villa Somalia to raise the issue of deforestation, and it got me thinking – what does a young sapling need for it to grow into a strong, healthy tree?
It needs to be supported with a strong stake; it needs to be watered and fed; and it needs to be protected from animals that try to eat its soft bark and kill it.
And so it is with this young sapling we have all planted, called Somalia. We need support; we need assistance and investment; and we need protection from those who try to knock us over.
The first period of growth is always the most hazardous; where the most support and protection is needed. But as the bow thickens and strengthens, the tree needs less and less support, until finally it stands proud and tall and strong all on its own.
My vision is for a Federal Somalia at peace with itself and its neighbours and which poses no threat to the world; a Somalia with a resurgent economy, thriving small and medium sized business ventures and sustainable employment so that families are properly provided for; a Somalia with values of kindness, respect and human rights, all underpinned by an education system that harnesses our intellectual spirit.
So we are here today to begin a four-year process that must begin with considerable investment and support but which I hope will finish with very little.
Heads of State and Governments, Excellencies, Ambassadors, Special Representatives, Honored Guests – the Prime Minister and I welcome you to the second Somalia Conference in London.
Mr. Prime Minister, I wholeheartedly thank you and your government for your personal engagement in shaping our future and for your support in hosting this Conference. I particularly congratulate you for re-opening your Embassy on our soil in Mogadishu after more than two decades absence.
People may ask why Somalia matters at this time but there is a huge amount at stake right now: the future of our country, the security of the region and the wider world, and the removal of the piracy stranglehold on the Gulf of Aden.
I know you all understand this and I fully appreciate the political capital being invested to support Somalia.
Since the last meeting held here in London more than one year ago, more has been achieved than anyone would ever have imagined. In just one year the cornerstones of a new Somalia have been successfully and peacefully laid.
The political transition has ended and I stand here as the elected President of a sovereign nation, with an elected Speaker leading a new Parliament representative of all the regions and all communities and with a legitimate and effective government delivering our Six Pillar Policy Framework – the foundation of a new beginning. Progress has defied the skeptics. Somalia has rejoined the world community.
Under my leadership, we offer the world a legitimate partner you can trust, hard at work to deliver an integrated national security plan; economic reform and new financial management systems; rule of law and judicial reform; and an environment conducive to commercial growth. We are achieving real progress week by week, month by month. But challenges do remain.
Despite being militarily defeated, Al Shabaab have melted into society and begun a new phase of insurgency and a campaign of terror – an experience I know that Great Britain comprehends as well as any other. Our Constitution is only partially complete. Piracy must come to an end. Millions of Somalis still live in desperate conditions as refugees in neighbouring countries or as internally displaced persons in their own country. And we lack developed government institutions, schools, hospitals, roads, sanitation and other basic services.
As you will hear over the coming hours, however, we come to London to share with you our detailed plans to address these challenges.
We are rebuilding our armed forces. We are restructuring and developing our police force. We are reforming our justice sector. And we are revolutionizing our public finance management systems. We are driving Somalia from emergency to recovery; and from recovery to development and reconstruction.
Ultimately, however, it will be a Somali owned solution that will fix Somalia, but no country has ever recovered from such social and economic collapse without the help of the world. And so in partnership with our endeavors, we respectfully ask for your total and unflinching commitment, partnership and support. We hope that you will agree how you can support the implementation of our plans and put an end to our dependence on the international community.
The Federal Government of Somalia has now laid down the foundations for a new public finance management mechanism, which we believe will give enable our donors to agree funding arrangements with the confidence that funds will reach their intended recipient.
The progress that has been made in Somalia over the past three years would not have been possible without the courageous support of IGAD, the African Union and our brothers and sisters in AMISOM and the ultimate sacrifice paid by many brave African soldiers. We owe to it their memory to ensure that we do not take one single step backwards.
The progress that has been made in Somalia over the past three years would also not have been possible without the committed support of the United Nations, the United States, the United Kingdom and the European Union. We owe it to the publics who contribute to these governments and institutions to see this process through to a successful conclusion.
We are also indebted to the kindness and generosity of countries like Turkey, Norway, the Arab League member states and other countries. Your assistance over the past few years has spread hope and belief among our people.
We welcome UNSOM, the new United Nations Mission in Somalia, and we are grateful for the consultation offered in agreeing both the mandate and the appointment of the SRSG. We congratulate His Excellency Mr. Nicholas Kay on his appointment as SRSG. We are looking forward receiving him and the new UN mission in Mogadishu. I wish to thank Ambassador Mahiga, the outgoing SRSG, for his relentless and determined efforts in leading the design of the roadmap and seeing the transition through. Our best wishes and tributes go to him. The people of Somalia are eternally grateful.
Winning the war in Somalia has been proved. Winning the peace in Somalia will take patience and great skill. We are at a critical junction. The time is now.
We have little time today and lots to achieve. All of us, especially those in the background who have worked so hard to make this conference happen, will want to depart with a real sense of progress.
I thank you all for coming, and for your dedicated support. Together we can make Somalia strong again. A tree standing tall in the African bush with deep roots binding it securely to its region and offering shade and protection to its people as they rebuild their lives.
Thank you.
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Baashi,
The day is finally here. Let us see how it unfolds.
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Tillamook
Unlike you I knew he said those very words and more in Beledweyn and in Baydhabo. Not only that he also said he came to consult them in the nomination of the Prime Minister. At the time it was commendable 'cos it was seen as a good gesture, but no one knew he was laying the foundation for his master plan. History will not be so kind to him, but let us still remember he is the President so may be we should respect and not call him any names.
Tillamook;946775 wrote:You know I actually believed him when he visited us in Minneapolis and he denied ever saying that Beletweyne folks could build their own administration and that there was no audio or visual proof that he made such a statement. What a munaafiq?Homunculus,
Secessionists are a rare breed. A concoction of malaise and madness. The best thing to do is avoid them as if [the] plague.
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Beleweyn can govern itself. There will be NO governor or police commissioner or justices appointed from Xamar to preside over the affairs of Beledweyn.
But for Kismayo, the government in Xamar will appoint a governor and all its administration.
Why the inconsistencies? Why the two different policies?
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if you can only re-read what you wrote, and then take your own advise and think first.
D.O.C;946483 wrote:First of all, i believe you misunderstood the whole ditty and its meaning or maybe you were listening to another melody while you in visit to this thread, i don’t know!While i am taking your starting quote “Without taking anything away from the vocals of the two ladies on display, I take issue with the lyrics from three angles”For your first angle, you only criticise the lyrics itself without any elucidation of your dislike except the “deelqaaf”. The composer (abwaan) of the song had perfectly demonstrated a high level neutrality for both parts (Somalia and Somaliland).May be we as different nations describe the word “deelqaaf” in different ways and that shows our widening differences in contrary to the words that southerners crave to say “same people, same language and same religion” therefore i take that as one down two to go.Secondly angle, you disputed about the word “anigu baan jees noqdee” again this idiom replicates the previous illustrations of your word “deelqaaf” nothing else. With triangle, yes this is where the most population of the country resides and also it is where the decision is made and final. If you referring your argument to one qabiil rather than 3 cities, then you need to come out from your shell and be man enough to say that. The infirmity of your afSomali continues especially where you favoured “ardaa over jees”. Ardaa is more associated with single qabiil and can only be confined to xigto or close clan. Where the jees is definitely out of the qabiil context, for instance a one can say “this guy is my ardaa, but not jees, so you once again lost the plot.And finally the terminology of "jeer hore waa taad midnimo, jid dheer iisoo martee ha jeedane joog walaal" intelligibly displays the capability, the proficiency and competence of Somaliland people shown last time (1960s) when the two Somalis united breaking all the obstacle somalilanders faced with enormous flair. The northerners fought back in all hindrances in order to safeguard the abused brothers/ sisters (in the southern Somalia) from their Italian owners who were using these human being as bridges, overpasses, flyovers not to mention various maltreatment they faced daily basis. In all, this verse means “you (Somaliland) had initiated and brokered the lengthy awaited unionship of somalia with great difficulties, please don’t leave me, rather stay.Illyria;946518 wrote:So now reer Hawd are considered reer Koonfureed?What is your definition of the word "Deelqaaf" in poetry? -
As you were.
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The relvance of the age was 'cos your response were those of a child.
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Now you know why I asked how old you were. moving on.
I do not know the colour of your car nor do I care as it has no relevance to the topic unless of course you wish to invent an angle.
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I thought I was being very specific. Poetry is the clue.
Let me give you a clue:
Aw-muuse deelleyda gabay, adi laguu daaye,
Adigaa dubuubtiyo tixaha, doo dabaal baraye,
Deelqaaf la'aan waadigii, daadahayn jiraye.
Do you still think so?
D.O.C;946538 wrote:Deelqaaf waa gef ama xadgudub in my part of the world. -
Clever, perhpas not, but rationale being, yes.
See if you can try this one more time. It is very simple. indulge me.
What is your definition of the word "Deelqaaf" in poetry?
Let me give you a clue:
Aw-muuse deelleyda gabay, adi laguu daaye,
Adigaa dubuubtiyo tixaha, doo dabaal baraye,
Deelqaaf la'aan waadigii, daadahayn jiraye.
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Agreed.
I am harnesing for disappoint, if nothing else in turn out. if all goes well, well done to all, if not the expectation was not that high to begin with.