Originally posted by Abu_Diaby- Al Zeylaci: sharica over dinner, eh? Funny how sharicatul Islam became used for political purposes. Are you in a parallel universe of yourself? Where did you get the idea of 'sharica over dinner'? Perhaps you should take off your 'dinner' tinted goggles and look at the pictures again. Read the writing too. It's a board meeting too. mate. Or have you been briefed otherwise.

^Had you not come, this wouldn't have happened. Crucificion!

Brown, haaheey! I think short-sighted and dichotomous minds will always quible with lowly ends of important matters. The enlightened one sees beyond the immediate, and is compassionate enough to cross the quagmire of vindictive bitterness, to stretch a merciful hand to all those who suffer - first to his own people and next to his enemies. And only great leaders are born of such high spirit as to see across the bond. The Shariif, sharing forgiving and merciful qualities with previous legendary leaders of the world, is a beacon of all that is good in Somaliness and humanity in general. Let the challenged folks become aware of the Sheikh's good gestures for what they are, rather than what the blarring 'GROUP-THINK and Thought Conformity dictates them to think of them. Think, for God's sake! Stop being robots!

Oh come off it. You are all being silly. As ever.

Lol. So Harry Enfield wasn't wrong when he warned: 'Women, don't drive. For pity's sake'. But this was more hilarious.

Originally posted by +FahIIma: ^ :rolleyes: :eek: Che Juuq ha odhan, sidaad u arkayso meeshu way isku qasantee Lol. Qasan oo weliba laban! The_Siren, I think you should with-held your next installment of similar topics, for the cheesy romantic novels would be enough in here for some months to come. Now as for the hypothetical question, the reasons might be many, but explanations to the women-folk should be expediently emotive. To give them a status, sense of importance and self-worth for the sake of vanity. That's all I have to say.

Looooooool@@war shuxshuux baa ku jira' Nin aan saaxiibbo ahaan jirtay use to say: 'Adeer Macdan baa layska baarayaa'. The sort of language he would use for normal TV scenes markaan maqashid waad ku beer-caddaaneeysaa lol. Talking of late nights, I am off. See you tomorrow, God willing.

^Lool@Che. Apparently I am the unsuspecting prey onto which Cara will pounce. Wey i baran lahaayeene. Ha soo dhuushoo haygu soo degto, bal ineey ciddiya-dhigatto aan aragnee. Aadaa waa aaqaa.

Ah, well, if it fertilizes your imaginations, then do indulge old girl. I read too but ofcourse not the same material.

^Lol@'me so horny'. Dear, Siren, I am not so horny, nor am I so chauvinistic at most times. I am not just making random statements without a serious thought here. This topic happens to be a tiny part of 'total-field, relational image' puzzle that has been keeping me occupied. It's merely a small part in my taboo quest to understand the ontology of matter, the single-ness of our Supreme soul (of nothingness) in one-ness in godly presence. And as such, my interest in biological designs delves into the basic components of the body-sense structures, into which a genderless (not a man or a woman), shapeless, formless 'eternal energy' has been breathed to function (and at times malfunction - the exception you are looking for) strictly in a certain way. What isn't a malfuntion in the body-sense is, I believe caused an a sort of an omnipresent social consciousness/environment that conditioned one to take on an attitudional over-lay of 'reality'. Now, I have made an observational discovery not long ago that sometimes, if one successfully reverts the person from consciousness, and slip them back the unconscious, in that period, regardless of how sophisticated the person thinks s/he is in 'real' life, everything they do or say is primordial in nature. All pretentions simply wears off and the bones of true being fills the void. And friendship of the kind we're discussing now is but pretention. In that state, I believe there are not exceptions, but I wouldn't rule them out all together. Cara, first free yourself from the poverty and fallacy of positivist empiricism. Then know.

^Lol@Che and The_Siren Did you say traped, unavoidably without any help around? Ok, i'll think about that. Anyway, Che, waa sidaad sheegtay iyo sidaan sheegey. But if they want to be friends, hell yeah, by all means let's.

^Che, whip aa? Lol. Cara Since I'm sleepless, let me run with you for a bit, and reply to you in a jest. Wow, you're a touchy one Paragon. Before you make ever more childish insinuations, my point about praising my friends' looks and abilities was to highlight that we think well of our friends. We like to think they are good-looking, talented or possess at least some positive quality that makes them worthy of our friendship. It was meant as a gentle reminder that your perceptions of your fake female friends might have stemmed at least in part from real affection for them. But never mind, they were only useful acquaintances Now, now, my dear, don't allege 'childish insinuations on the part of an elderly fellow. I do not say that your reference to 'insinuation' is wholly impertinent on your part, all I must say to dissuade you from making such a reference again, is that perhaps, it might have its root in a misunderstanding based on 'gendered meaning'. Let me clarify: praising or appreciating the beauty of your friends (of the opposite sex), their talents and positive qualities/attributes, could be something you hold as genuinely real, and that you have mentioned such things to 'highlight' the goodness of their characters, in worthiness of friendship, however, your statement of this simply applies only to your very own reality (or that of other females), which you consider to be 'true' and never a 'fake perception' on frienship. Perhaps, the fairer gender perceives there to be the case for solid inter-gender friendship, but as far I can deduce (that is using 'male logic'), you may hope as you may, but such inter-gender friendship falls victim to a male psychological streak of utilized-friendship. It is not due to utter pretention on the part of the male, that inter-gender friendships possess two differing 'gendered meaning', but perhaps considering the biological difference and function of genders, psychology explains why one sex insists on one conclusion on inter-gender friendship as true, while the other argues the opposite? I think these conclusions could easily be explained by acknowledging the basic nature of men as opposed to that of women: According to those who study this basic nature, males are in nature 'exclusivists', while females beings 'inclusivists'. Males exclude others to lay claim to others, especially things the man may perceive as different to him, such as rivals and women, to either to fulfull an innert need to overcome some rival, or to call something desireable as exclussively his 'own', and at times that desireable something could come in the form of a beautiful female who he must 'own' as a person, or secure her 'services'. For females, every man is friend/lover, every man a father, every man a brother, son, etc. Hence the perceptions of 'true' friendship. That fact has been widely recognized . But that distinction is clearly visible in most of the males' psychology. So perhaps you assumed that you and I must subscribe to the same universal perception on inter-gender friendship, and needlessly faulted me for holding a naturally male view, while presumptuosly hypothesizing that I might have had 'real affections' for them (female friends of mine). Might I declare to you that my affections are mostly reserved for those I romantically desire. My frendliness to my acqaintances, however, is just that: utilized friendliness for an identified purpose, the closest one approaching near affection being an appreciating them for some pleasing company in the passing of time. I court those in which I have an interest, Simple logic. I do have genuine male friends. Yes, yes, you may make smug claims that you know beyond a shadow of a doubt they are not "TRUE" friends, but that's where you would be spectacularly wrong. You see, I'm neither pretty nor generous with my "services", so I know I have managed to avoid the leeches who think true friendship requires matching genitalia Ofcourse to you as a female they are 'TRUE' friends. I could never commit the fallacy of claiming otherwise. But I am not wrong in enlightening you on the fact that such 'TRUE friendship' is hardly reciprocated in males. It is just so, and any male who loves women for whatever they are loved for will directly or indirectly tell you so. Mind you, I think it is somewhat unfair to describe yourself as you did above. The question is, do your male friends consider you as not being 'pretty'? Why don't you ask your male friends? I would tell you how beautiful you are were you to hire me as judge, without bringing up 'matching genitalia'. PS: Also, being generous with services comes in many forms, some subtle some obvious.

^Oh, you wouldn't be able to follow my logic, would you? Sure enough you wouldn't be able to follow logic where there is none, could you? What comes beyond the thresh-hold of universal logic? Interestingly, for you, a female friend with such beauty or skill wouldn't mean much to you, unless that is, you swing some 'other' way. For me, however, the services (not to be mistaken for anything else) of female acqaintances meant alot. Besides, your fingers are finely carved and nimble, may I pressume? (Presumption sucks, I know, but it sure simplifies things) So, Cara (or is it 'Caraweelo'), do think you have 'genuine' friends of the opposite gender?

Originally posted by Nehanda: ^ i disagree with you on that point.It is possible to form a close relationship with a male without any desires from both sides. I can honestly say this because one of my very good friends is male, I have known him for long and feel no shame sharing my thoughts and feelings with him. We have a platonic yet strong friendship. The operative word is 'you think'. And what you think isn't what 'they think'. Yeah ofcourse there can be friendship, but a friendship based on 'utility', as opposed to that based on 'pleasure' or 'goodness' of the other. The latter, which is the true friendship, cannot possibly come into existence between two people of the opposite sex. I had many female friends once, and coincidentally enough, they were either very pretty or good at typing essays. It was a beautiful friendship.

War maxaad u soo xusuusineeysaan inuu gabow yahay? JB waa ma naxe. Nuune koleey caawoo kale waa madluun. Horta cantatabka intee uga dhiman? Nuune, adeer, dhalasha wanaagsan sxb....

Ma maqasheen islaantii iyadoo habeen badh ku guraysa, oo sigaarkana qiiqineysa iyo ninkii inta bawda ka soo booday ku yiri: Eedo 'haashka' ii dhiib?' Waxaa laga hayaa hal-haysta ah: Kaw! Waar dee idinku xitaa hadaad IL-ABEESO oo habeen ifaysa aragtaanna ma waxaad un odhanaysaan 'Eedo Haaska ii dhiib? Islaantii illaa maanta waxa la yiraahdaa 'Il-Abeeso' cid dib dambe haash u weydiisana ma jirto.

Affarreey Web-ka tiris ah Cajjal buu liqqay kan yari nuune lol. Balse waa entertainer caan noqon doona. I think waa 'reer Galbeed' reer Harari? *ducks*

Happy ending at least. I read through the strory with a bitten bishin-wit-ciil. But this Xamari guy told me a strange incident that happened in Eastleigh (Somali quater of) Nairobi, where a niqaabi was hit by a matatu (a form of crazy public transport). So as he narrated to me, as a good samaritan, he obviously ran to the woman's rescue, who was lying on the curb of the road. He heroically lifted her clear of the road, gently and caringly placed her on the pavement and started asking 'are was alright?' He could hear no sound coming out of the woman, so he thought it would be a good idea to unveil her face and see what sought of pain the woman is in. But lo and behold! Islaantuba illeen taqsiin baa u taagan! No wonder she couldn't utter a word or cry out. The poor fellow says he fled from the scene thinking this is aakhara seben. Strange enough a man over hearing us said: 'no no it's not aakhara 'seben', it's aakhira 'eight'. I was caught in the middle of an unexpressionless perplexity. Yaan bal la yaabaa? Ma niqaabiyadda mirqaansan? Ma kan aakhara eightka leh? Mise the narrator of the story was trying to convince me that Xijaabi sisters are 'as bad as the rest', while I was telling him 'i taqu-ul-Allah'. Good news was that at the end, iyagii baa isku kacay, anna waan ka dhex siibtay. Iscuna idunku baan niyadda ka iri.

^Waa runteed. Isagu muu is qarxiyo ma Muqdishuu Janada mooday? Walaahi I heard this same sentence some time ago, said emotionally by a friend who's father was a victim of one of those indiscriminate bombings. Al-Shabaab are either the dumbest guys on planet Earth, or robots/clones programed by the enemies of Somalia, to carry out one function: to kill, kill and kill.

Lol@Sayid. But the boy's piece has some unintended literary quality, wouldn't you say? Count the P's This is perfect combination of ´Pirates Government´, where all members of the cabinet are Pirate Businessmen.

Haha. Waxbaa ka dhacay! Had a good chuckle from both pieces. Well done Mr.Birqaab iyo Nuune. Jafta iyo rafta iyo bafta ayaan ku qosley.

Bloody copycat; he just copied Amin Amir's message on his Faroole 'faalso' money cartoon and changed the name to 'Ilka-jiir! At least let's have genuine propaganda...

^He comes across as a fool who thinks he's intelligent. By the way, nothing is ever completely good or completely bad. This guy is using data-nitpicking. A pedant of a sort. Anarchy in Somlia looks beautiful to those who comfortably 'philosophise' about tragedies to strengthen Stupid argument.

^I am actually. Ah, lol@word. Jumpy?

^Sayidka, maanta sannifaadda waa maxay sxb? Iska daa ninka JB ah, ninyow. Waad ogtahay wiilka jacayloow unbaa iska yara qabtaye. Wax sii weynoo lagu haraatiyo kuma dhicine.