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ISIL provide social services to the poor, they assist in education, they provide people with healthcare etc...


Show me one video of alshabab or boko haram..doing that..these two other groups alshabab and boko haram are the real enemies all negative with no benefits...they should be helping people and assisting. Winning hearts and minds...


Children, the orphans, the needy, woman, the disabled etc helping these catagories of society is we're the true Islamic jihad should be fought and this group ISIL has achieved great success in Syria and Iraq.



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Ciidan, of course they provide food and other things for children when they have the upper hand. Al-shabaab used to care too. They distributed food and agricultural aid in the river area, liberated farms occupied by militias and people used to say, " meelaha Shabaabku Joogo waa nabad". When they start losing grounds, people , whether they are women or children, are collateral damage for them.


When you researching these kind of groups, do not go far. JUst check their flags and methods. It is identical. Now you want them to burn Karbala and Najaf. That is genocide.


Further more, they do not have legitimate leaders, counsel or any credible figure to deal with. Their leaders are just like Ahmed Godane and the crazy Boko haram leader. The shiite , on the other hand have imams and leaders whom people listen to both in times of peace and war.


AS Dr. Kenney said , these are artificial countries that can't sustain or endure any longer. Ali binu abi dalib,( ridiyalaahu canhu), said " Iraq is the land of the Fitnah and tribulations".



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We will see galbeedi inshallah we shall see. As it stands not much we can say because what we know is limited. I haven't seen any good conducted by Alshabab or booko haram other then security. Even in areas they control they use to deny good aid, immunisations etc.


I still believe Alshabab and boko haram are very differnt then Isis. Isis is 30 klm from Baghdad today gentlemen. Sunnis are flocking to join them and there is a clear division today in Iraq between Sunni and Shia.


We will see how this progresses. If Isis takes Baghdad and inshallah they will...


They will burn Najaf and Karbala to the ground as they have stated. There must only be one dominant ideology in the middle if there is to be stability

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And that dominate ideology will not be the worship of Hassan and Husain, the mehdis and Ali... Never


But the one God who created and owns everything.

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Ciidan, one thing you are correct about is there is someone behind these mass power. Even in Libya there were radicals and the west supported. maybe USA and Saudi are backing these sunni power. If they become moderates and deal with world in a logical manner maybe they will rule.

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'Urgent message by Association of Muslim Scholars to Iraqi revolutionaries'

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Source: Association of Muslim Scholars

Due to major victories bestowed by God to you and for the major defeat suffered by Iraqi people’s enemies and destruction of their centers, which represents the falling leaves in autumn, it is crucial to draw your attention to the following points:


We want victory over the enemies and defeat of their conspiracies. God willing we are going to have greater victories in coming days. To this end, we wish to underline the following points:


1. God has bestowed victory to you and this must be appreciated.


2. Your victory has had a major impact inside and outside Iraq. Obviously, the enemy is conspiring [against this victory] full force. They intend to tarnish the image of the revolutionaries.


3. The most important issue now is the victory of our revolution and we must gain the trust of people. The revolutionaries must serve the people. They want to remove injustice against the people. You must safeguard this phenomenon. Must try to turn every liberated city into a symbol for other cities.


4. You must know that liberating people from the tyrants is not an easy task. But, the main issue comes after achieving freedom. The revolutionaries in Mosul, in particular, have taken up the running affairs of the people up to this point. But we must bear in mind that Mosul is a big city and thus requires independent local management and this is very important for the revolutionaries. Therefore, local revolutionary councils must be set up to include all sections of the society.


5. The revolutionaries must be open to people and understand their problems wholeheartedly and try to resolve them.


6. Must try as much as possible to provide the needs of the people. This relates to the fate of tens of thousands of families.


7. Revolutionaries in Mosul, Salaheddin and other liberated areas must pay attention to this.


8. Treatment of minorities must be according to our religious values (treated nicely). The revolutionaries must present a very decent image of themselves to the world. Any restriction against them must be removed. This is very important for protection of the minorities and their beliefs.


9. You must bear in mind a very important issue in relation with other countries and in particular the neighbors; right now, taking hostage Turkish consul and number of others has already turned into a major problem and this has not served the interests of the revolutionaries and their movement. Nobody is allowed to act contrary to the will of people.


10. In the current situation, the most important point is unity and the evil must not be granted the opportunity to carry out its plots. No one is allowed to make strategic decision in this respect. Revolutionaries are no one but part of 30 million Iraqis. People of Iraq are those who have been staging peaceful demonstrations in 16 cities since February 25, 2011, but after few months Maliki opened fire on them. Demonstrations and protests started in six governorates after that. Iraqis held sit-ins for more than a year and presented their just demands but Maliki responded by iron force and fire followed by tanks and heavy weapons leading to hundreds of deaths and injuries. Iraqis were left with no other option but to respond in the same way. That was people’s revolution and any movement or group thinking that holds the leadership of the revolution is wrong and lives in illusion... Children of the revolution have decided to remain in conciliation with all those who stand by them in their fight against tyrants… but, they will not allow anyone to snatch their revolution, whoever they might be. They will neither allow anyone to cause sedition among revolutionaries, like what happened in Syria, this will not be in the interests of anyone but the enemies of Iraq and Iraqi people.


11. The revolutionaries’ slogan is very clear and it is the same slogan used by Prophet Mohammad when he conquered Mecca and which was forgiveness and compassion. This is what our revolutionary children did… forgiveness is the key to conquer people’s hearts. But with respect to tyrants, they will be handed over to a just judiciary system to be tried at the right time in criminal courts. A judiciary system that will not resemble in any way a sectarian and politicized judiciary set up by Maliki. It will not be an establishment to justify killings and contrary to practices of Prophet Mohammad…


12. The target for the revolutionaries now is to reach Baghdad and this is their right, because the ruling regime in Baghdad is a tyranny committing crimes against people… and the revolutionaries have no other alternative but to remove tyranny and injustice. Within this context, we warn against calls on the revolutionaries to move on Najaf and Karbala and other places. Such calls are unacceptable and rejected and it is an irresponsible issue by any one… this will be a prelude to a defeat and diversion from its objective to help the oppressed and will lead to sedition among the united nation. Everybody knows that the majority of Iraqi people in the south reject Maliki and his gang, and like the rest of people they suffer severe injustice and poverty, trampling of their dignity and rights, and the domination of criminal parties and paramilitary forces over them. We advise all revolutionaries to refrain from any act prompted by sectarian emotions. This is what all the known major and minor governments are doing for their destructive agenda against Iraq and the whole region.


We are all the children of the same country and we all work together to remove injustice from all Iraqis without excluding any religion within the society, and prior to that we try for the victory of the religion and restoration of justice and removal of injustice. We do not recognize any distinction among people or various religions since we share the same land and future.


These were our urgent observations. We hope you would pay attention to these points and accept them from your brothers. These observations are the results of past experience… and for you to achieve higher objectives. God willing, we will continue with our contacts with you where ever the interests of all are concerned until the major victory…


Secretariat of the Association of Muslim Scholars

June 12, 2014

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I agree galbeedi Rome wasn't built in a day. The first step is to remove these despots and remove all aspects that curropt the peoples ideology. There must be a single dominant ideology in the Middle East or else we will always be at war. Once the war is won inshallah the second state will be harder...state building apparatus this takes time. Islam has never had a problem with minorities who live under their protection as history will show. Let's see how things develop.

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For the Middle East to return to Islam the likes of ISIL have to defeat the Hussein worshippers. Who are in reality Zoroastrianist pretending to be Muslims. They are the worshippers of light. The same people who killed umar the third khalif of the Muslim nation. The Muslim soldiers of before conquered Persia and thus them...they are modern day Persians. And in all honousty in my view they must be dealt with or silenceed permanently that is why marching on Karbala and Najaf is a good plan...


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Who is Albaghdadi -


As its feared and fearsome leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi personifies the brutality, determination and ambition of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.


No one since Osama bin Laden has a leader been held in such reverence among Sunni fighters, scored such stunning and shocking victories, and threatened so much of the established order.


But unlike Bin Laden, whose vast wealth aided his elevation to the "sheikh", Baghdadi has literally fought his way from ordinary beginnings in northern Iraq to lead what is perhaps the Middle East’s most feared irregular armed force.


So emboldened by his success on the battlefields of Syria and Iraq, Baghdadi has challenged the very leadership of al-Qaeda, denouncing them publicly as deviating from the cause and stating he is the true heir to Bin Laden's legacy.



Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

But his methods are extreme and his actions repugnant to many - captured enemy fighters are shot or decapitated and their deaths recorded for the Internet.


Other armed groups in Syria are attacked as ISIL expands territory and influence, and a strict interpretation of Islam is implemented in the regions under its control - Internet videos abound of thieves having their hands severed and adulterers, smokers and those who fail to attend prayer being publicly whipped.


The scholar


Little of Baghdadi’s early life is on record. It is known that he was born Awwad Ibrahim al-Badri al-Samarri to a religious family in Samarra in 1971. He studied Islamic history as a student and, according to sympathetic websites, gained a doctorate from Baghdad university in the late 1990s.


It is likely Baghdadi held a religious position in the Sunni community when the US invaded Iraq in 2003.


Like many enraged by the invasion, he became involved in the armed rebellion and began fighting in western Iraq, possibly Anbar - the stronghold of Tawhid and Jihad led by the Jordanian, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who later rebranded the group al-Qaeda in Iraq.


But Baghdadi's resistance was cut short in about 2006, when he was arrested by US forces and held in Camp Bucca, the main US-run prison in Iraq following the torture scandal and shutdown of Abu Ghraib .


Such was his relative anonymity, it seems, that Baghdadi was interred as a low-level prisoner. And it is here, analysts believe, that he became more deeply involved with fighters from al-Qaeda.


After his release in the late 2000s, he joined and fought with the Islamic State of Iraq, known as ISI, the successor group to al-Qaeda in Iraq. With its ranks swelled by foreign and Iraqi fighters, the group was the dominent Sunni force in the country, attacking and intimidating its US and sectarian enemies with suicide bombings, abductions and murder.


Perhaps as a sign of things to come, ISI was publicly reprimanded by al-Qaeda for its brutality and its willingness to kill anyone, even Sunni Muslims, it considered betrayers of their religion.


Some reports say Baghdadi held sway over his own religious court, pronouncing - often without mercy - on the fate of those before him. Others say he played a key role in smuggling foreign fighters into Iraq.


He quickly climbed the ranks, earning a place on the organisation's ruling council before being declared leader in 2010 after his predecessor, Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, was killed by US and Iraqi forces.


The usurper


It was the outbreak of the Syrian war that presented Baghdadi with the opportunity to expand his cause. He sent a lieutenant, Abu Mohammed al-Joulani, to create the Nusra Front and fight the Assad regime.


From there, his rise gathered pace and he declared in 2013 the takeover of Nusra to add the Levant to the Islamic State of Iraq. Baghdadi moved to Syria and ignored pronouncements by the leader of al-Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawirhiri, that the merger with Nusra was invalid.



ISIL holds areas of Iraq and Syria

That schism deepened in April of this year, when the ISIL declared that "al-Qaeda is no longer the base of jihad... its leadership has become a hammer to break the project of the Islamic state... al-Qaeda's leaders have deviated from the correct paths".


Baghdadi's interpretation of Islam has been enforced in the group's stronghold of Raqaa, in northern Syria; capital and corporal punishment for a range of crimes, public floggings, mandatory prayer and reports of a Christian being crucified to send a message to his community.


So how did an Islamic scholar from Samarra become the most feared radical fighter in the Middle East, prepared to disregard the "old guard" of al-Qaeda and declare himself the new force?


Apart from in Syria since 2013, there is no evidence that Baghdadi has ever fought abroad, like many of his peers. At the time of his arrest by US forces he was not considered a big catch.


Events, it seems, have shaped the man, and compelled him to shape his strategy. Baghdadi supporters speak of him as al-Qaeda mark two, the leader of a new generation working to bring about the Islamic caliphate envisoned by Bin Laden.


"Sheikh Baghdadi and Sheikh Osama are similar. They always look ahead, they both seek an Islamic state," a Syrian ISIL fighter told the Reuters news agency.


A non Syrian fighter told the agency: "The group al-Qaeda does not exist any more. It was formed as a base for the Islamic state and now we have it, Zawahiri should pledge allegiance to Sheikh Baghdadi."


The opportunist


Charles Lister, a visiting fellow at the Brookings Doha Centre, told Al Jazeera: "There can be no doubt ISIL’s rise in recent years is due to Baghdadi’s shaping it into a transnationally-minded and brutal organisation.


"Baghdadi has presented himself as a preeminent jihadist leader of the 21st century, and by extension, certainly a competitor and rival to Zawahiri."


Lister, who has written extensively on Syria, said that the escalation of the Syrian conflict since mid-2011 aided Baghdadi's successful recovery of the ISI and his expansion into Syria with ISIL.


"The sectarian element within the Syrian conflict contributed towards enhancing the principle theme used by Baghdadi to justify his fight against Baghdad.


Al-Qaeda does not exist any more. Zawahiri should pledge allegiance to Sheikh Baghdadi.


ISIL fighter in Syria


"ISIL’s involvement in Syria and the controversy developed over its role in that conflict also, by extension, brought more and more attention to the conflict in Iraq, which appears to have encouraged increased levels of foreign fighter recruitment in Iraq also.


"ISIL's extensive and slick PR apparatus and its bold mode of operation has undoubtedly lent it real clout within the international jihadist community. These latest gains in Iraq will have served to consolidate that status.


"A common theme among European members of ISIL is that Baghdadi represents a continuation of the ideals expounded by Bin Laden and that Zawahiri has failed to continue that line."


The ISIL's latest gains in Iraq are the result. Reports suggest the ISIL has plundered $425m from banks in northern Iraq, and looted the stores and equipment from Iraq army bases left undefended by fleeing troops.


"ISIL’s operations in Iraq and Syria are intricately linked together within a single strategy, with activities in one country often feeding off momentum in the other," said Lister.


"This major push in Iraq has been long in the coming and the gains made - particularly in terms of weaponry and money - will undoubtedly bolster ISIL’s capacity to push back against rival forces in Syria, potentially even leading the group to move back into the northern governorates of Idlib, Latakia and western Aleppo."

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The biggest hussieni worshiper ayatollah sistani calls on Shias to volunteer to fight in the army:


IRBIL, Iraq — The stage was set Friday for a major sectarian confrontation in Iraq after the government and the country’s most powerful Shiite cleric implored civilians to take up arms against Sunni militants — a move that would partially plug the ranks of the decimated security forces with religiously motivated volunteers.


Those developments appeared directly at odds with the approach urged by President Obama in Washington, who appealed to the Iraqi government to find ways to bridge the country’s sectarian divisions.


After an offensive this week by the al-Qaeda-inspired Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) triggered a massive retreat by security forces in the north, the government turned to its citizenry for help, issuing a call for volunteers to join the battle. On Friday, that call was echoed in a message from Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, delivered at prayers in the southern city of Karbala, a Shiite holy city.


Baghdad residents said those signing up are largely members of Shiite militias notorious for bloodletting during the darkest days of Iraq’s civil war, raising fears of a return to levels of sectarian violence that could tear the country apart.


The new recruits will face militants who have received a significant military boost from warehouses of equipment left behind by the retreating Iraqi army.

In the past, Sistani has issued conciliatory statements that have pulled Iraq back from civil war. But the cleric was blunt Friday, with his representative urging anyone who can carry a weapon to take up arms against the militants.


“Citizens who are able to bear arms and fight terrorists, defending their country and their people and their holy places, should volunteer and join the security forces to achieve this holy purpose,” he said in a sermon.


Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, himself a Shiite, has long been accused by both Shiite and Sunni opponents of stirring divisions between the Muslim sects in order to cling to power. On Friday, he chose to visit a shrine in the city of Samarra that has been the focus of major sectarian attacks — not the action of a leader promoting a message of unity.


Iraqi state television showed recruits who will be used to protect sites such as the Samarra shrine — where ISIS forces attempted an assault this week — scrambling to board packed army trucks.


An Iraqi official said the number of new recruits had reached 30,000 Friday, but that number does not approach the roughly 90,000 soldiers who he said earlier had “evaporated overnight” as ISIS advanced. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to provide the figures.


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Security experts estimate the amount of military hardware that has fallen into the hands of the Sunni rebels at 1.3 billion dollars worth:


Hisham al-Hashemi, an Iraqi security analyst who claimed to be privy to Defense Ministry estimates, gave a glimpse of how devastating the losses to the Iraqi army may have been. He said the rout has cost the army equipment worth $1.3 billion, including 72 tanks — much of it hardware supplied by the United States.



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The number of Shia militia recruits are equal to half the number of the Iraqi army positioned in Mosul that ran away when the Sunni rebels advanced on Mosul. To combat this poor number Iran has sent troops into Iraq:


Iran has sent 2,000 advance troops to Iraq in the past 48 hours to help tackle a jihadist insurgency, a senior Iraqi official has told the Guardian.


The confirmation comes as the Iranian president, Hassan Rouhani, said Iran was ready to support Iraq from the mortal threat fast spreading through the country, while the Iraqi prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, called on citizens to take up arms in their country's defence.


Addressing the country on Saturday, Maliki said rebels from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis) had given "an incentive to the army and to Iraqis to act bravely". His call to arms came after reports surfaced that hundreds of young men were flocking to volunteer centres across Baghdad to join the fight against Isis.


In Iran, Rouhani raised the prospect of Teheran cooperating with its old enemy Washington to defeat the Sunni insurgent group – which is attempting to ignite a sectarian war beyond Iraq's borders.


The Iraqi official said 1,500 basiji forces had crossed the border into the town of Khanaqin, in Diyala province, in central Iraq on Friday, while another 500 had entered the Badra Jassan area in Wasat province overnight. The Guardian confirmed on Friday that Major General Qassem Suleimani, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' elite Quds Force, had arrived in Baghdad to oversee the defence of the capital.


There is growing evidence in Baghdad of Shia militias continuing to reorganise, with some heading to the central city of Samarra, 70 miles (110km) north of the capital, to defend two Shia shrines from Sunni jihadist groups surrounding them.


The volunteers signing up were responding to a call by Iraq's most revered Shia cleric, the Iranian-born grand ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, to defend their country after Isis seized Mosul and Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit in a lightning advance this week. Samarra is now the next town in the Islamists' path to Baghdad.


"Citizens who can carry weapons and fight the terrorists in defence of their country, its people and its holy sites should volunteer and join the security forces," Sheik Abdul-Mahdi al-Karbalaie, Sistani's representative, said on Friday in a sermon at the holy Shia city of Kerbala.


He warned that Iraq faced great danger and that fighting the militants "is everybody's responsibility, and is not limited to one specific sect or group", Associated Press reported. Karbalaie's comments have consistently been thought to reflect Sistani's views.


Meanwhile, Iraqi troops had been ordered out of the northern city of Kirkuk by Kurdish fighters who have taken full control of the regional oil hub and surrounding areas, according to a mid-ranking army officer.


His account was corroborated by an Arab tribal sheik and a photographer who witnessed the looting of army bases after troops left and who related similar accounts of the takeover from relatives in the army, the Associated Press reported.


"They said they would defend Kirkuk from the Islamic State [isis]," said the Arab officer, who oversaw a warehouse in the city's central military base.


He insisted the Iraqi troops had not planned to retreat before the Islamic State. "We were ready to battle to death. We were completely ready," he said at a roadside rest house just inside the semi-autonomous Kurdish region.


A spokesman for Kurdish forces, known as the peshmerga, said they had only moved in after Iraqi troops retreated, assuming control of the "majority of the Kurdistan region" outside the semi-autonomous Kurdish regional government.


"Peshmerga forces have helped Iraqi soldiers and military leaders when they abandoned their positions," including by helping three generals to fly back to Baghdad from the Kurdish regional capital of Erbil, said Lieutenant General Jabbar Yawar in a statement on the regional government's website.


A supporter of Maliki in the Iraqi parliament condemned the peshmerga's move, calling it a plot carried out in co-ordination with the regional government that would lead to problems.


"The Kurds have taken advantage of the current situation. They seized Kirkuk and they have other plans to swallow other areas," Mohammed Sadoun said.


A colonel from the military command responsible for Samarra said Iraqi security forces were preparing a counter-offensive against Isis on Saturday. The colonel, whom Maliki announced had been granted "unlimited powers" by the Iraqi cabinet, said reinforcements from the federal police and army arrived on Friday, according to Agence France-Presse.


The officer said the reinforcements were for a drive against areas north of the city, including Dur and Tikrit, and forces were awaiting orders to begin.


Sunni residents of west Baghdad said on Saturday Shia militias had taunted them with anti-Sunni chants. Baghdad has remained in virtual lockdown for the past three days as Isis jihadists threatened to storm the capital. However, Saturday morning saw relative normality return to deserted streets, with many residents returning to shops to stockpile supplies.


Residents offered little reaction to Barack Obama's statement late on Friday in which he appeared to condition renewed US military support on Iraqi leaders first making efforts to pull the country back from the brink. The US and Iran, foes throughout the US occupation of Iraq, share a common interest in defeating Isis, and Iran has so far expressed no opposition to US threats to send military support to Maliki.


Rouhani, asked at a televised press conference on Saturday whether Tehran could work with the US to tackle Isis, said: "We can think about it if we see America starts confronting the terrorist groups in Iraq or elsewhere. We all should practically and verbally confront terrorist groups."


Reuters reported US officials as saying there were no contacts taking place with Iran over the crisis in Iraq.


Meanwhile, the British foreign secretary, William Hague, had held talks with his Turkish counterpart, Ahmet Davutoglu, "urgently to co-ordinate approaches to the instability in Iraq and links to Syria conflict", he said on Twitter. Britain is to give £3m ($5.1m) of aid to Iraq as the first step in dealing with the humanitarian consequences of the insurgency.


The international development secretary, Justine Greening, said the initial tranche of emergency funding would allow agencies to supply water, sanitation, medicine, hygiene kits and basic household items.



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