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  2. Posted

    Nuunow,

     

    Horta sidoo kale dhalasho wacan, Abtow.

     

    Marka xigta, laguu waran magaaladii Harar ahayd sidii uun

    baa loooga biyo cabaa, nimcada iyo nuurka meesha taala inaba

    wax lagaaga sheekeen karo maaahan ee abtow intaad soo

    dhacdo shab soo dheh.

     

    Iskeen adaa indhahaaga kaga dharagi doonee. smile.gif

     

    Abtow, wax kale oo tiraahdaba biyo xidhkii ama biyo oodkii waxan ahaa

    barbaar weyn oo waxba ma hanbeeyo ah. icon_razz.gif Waaana saaan kuu sheegaye,

    iga qor hadalkaas. :D

  3. Posted

    Originally posted by AAliyah416:

    ^ lol koolkat...

     

    oh I didn't know it was Farancab's birthday tooo Happy belated birthday walaal....how old are you anyways??

     

    salaam

    I'm honored. Thank you! I got to celebrate all weekend long

    with all the belated wishes-I don't mind: So better late than never.

     

    Actually, I'm getting closser to 63rd. icon_razz.gif

     

     

    lol@Kuusha,

     

    Forum friends are simply best.

     

    Lov ya eedo. smile.gif

     

    @Nuune,,

     

    It would be great to hear some news from my twin bra.

     

    Sody for afduubing his thread. ;)

  8. Posted

    Originally posted by *Ibtisam*:

    I still don't see how it works.

    Hint: A happy marriage is a union of two good forgivers.

     

    Will someone explain what the original Q is abut? :D

  11. Posted

    Stating that to gain Independence the people have to be

    united is one thing, but claiming that O'gaden population

    are composed of different tribes and they will not have

    independence is so wrong, far away from the reality.

    By saying so, you are ignoring many respected Somali

    communities in the region who fight for their freedom

    more than the O'gaden tribe does. Somali people in O'gaden

    are one and live side by side. They are not enemy to

    one another. There are few occasional skirmishes

    between communities started by those who work for the

    enemy and It's the black colonial power who are using the

    tribalism card to their advantage by commanding its stooges

    to stir trouble between close communities but they mainly

    fail because people know that their real enemy is the black

    colonial 'Gumaysi' and the 'Gumaysi' alone!!

     

    There are hundreds of Somalis across clan lines who fight and die

    in O'gadenia every day to liberate their land from black

    colonial power.The sacrifice , the suffering is enormous,

    and the reason they fight is for one and one goal which

    is just to liberate their land from the the colonial power.

     

    Please try to understand the Somali liberation movements

    specialy in the O'gaden Somali region, not from the prism of

    tribal affliation, but in the light of humanity, and Somali people.

     

    Your last point that you raised is timely, but I am not sure

    how serious you are to follow through it. In other words,

    the subject matter is critical and it requires a lot of maturity and

    sensitivity. I am not saying that you are going to offend some

    one, hardly. What I am saying is, such issues require our

    collective sober analysis and much deeper soul searching.

    This is not something we can cure with emotionally

    charged comments based on our fears and prejudices.

    Most of all, we should not use such issues to launch our

    ignorance or our arrogance.

     

    Now, allow me to go back to your original point:

    They don't want to replace one occupier(ethiopia) with another( ONLF), whether that occupier is your fellow somali is largely irrelevant to them.

    Here, you seem to be critical of O'gaden and non-O'gaden

    politcal/armed organization. Do you believe they are

    all O'gaden Somalis?If so what rights do they have as

    nationals? How much do you know about their life style

    besides festival dances? How many high level pro-ONLF and

    pro-Ethiopian government officials do you know that represent

    them from either side? What is their grievances to begin with?

     

    But before you ponder such questions let me lay down some

    background as to why simple problems are blown out of

    proportion and why we are having a hard time resolving

    simple conflicts and identifying the root cause. This

    is not particularly O'gaden or none O'gaden issue but it seems

    to be much bigger than that and it is affecting the whole Somali

    nation. And what is that expected of us?

     

    First, it is paramount to recognize that the region's

    current problem is a political problem and it requires a

    political solution. But a political solution demands maturity,

    flexibility, sensitivity, tolerance, and trust. Equally there

    has to be a conducive atmosphere for such engagement to

    foster. But in our situation we know such thing do not exitst.

    So if we do not have a political solution for a political

    problem, then what is that we need to do? What alternative

    methods do we have in the absence of politcal solution?

    A question we need to ask our self.

     

    Second, in most communities, there are those who command

    great respect and trust of their fellow citizens. Such icons

    serve as conduits or medium to establish communication

    between two warring parties. These are elders, religious

    leaders, respected individuals who serve as negotiators

    and facilitators. But in today's Somali nation, such people

    do not exist. If they do, they have already left the country and

    they are watching like the rest of us from the other side of the fence.

    We also know the pro-Ethiopian government parties are allergic to anyone who has

    influence/respect from the people and they do not

    recognize or acknowledge any body to be an authority

    figure. It is always their way or the highway. Thus,

    in the absence of such great men, how do we ensure

    that concerns and grievances are addressed?

    How do we reapproach differences?

     

    Third, in todays Somali nation justice is one of the endangered

    species. But nowadays, justice has become synonymous

    with revenge. Generation of young men and women who are

    abused, tortured, neglected, enslaved, and humiliated

    for long time are eagerly waiting for their “justice”.

    Thus, the current system created a generation of collective

    victim mentality. Young men and women, when given the

    opportunity they will not hesitate to take revenge.

    Problems are individualized, personalized, made between

    sects and regions, to create the seed of mistrust

    and dishormony. So, instead of addressing the main issues,

    we are witnessing a compartmentalized problems. So how do

    you break such cycles of victim mentality and refocus those

    in bondage to create a velvet or orange revolution?

    Instead of individualizing the problems how do you make them

    see the big picture?

     

    Fourth, war and blood shed are not new to O'gaden

    Somalis. Every house hold bears the brunt scars it left

    behind for many decades. They know the destruction

    in life and property it brings. No one abhors war more

    than O'gaden Somalis. Many young and old Ogadeens who had

    enough of it, are crossing the border in droves and never

    looked back agian. Thus, someone who came from such

    background, what would cause them to point a gun at their

    country men? Some one who abhors war, why would they think

    they could find peace with a gun? Those carry the gun,

    why wouldn't they just cross the border and disappear

    like the rest? Do you think this is some thing extraordinary

    or just simply power play? I do believe it is more than

    just carrying a gun.

     

    It is easy to point a finger and condemn any armed wing

    or opposition groups but it is hard to place your self

    in their shoes. That is why I said it is going to require

    more than emotional reactions. And most of all, no one is

    advocating for war. But it would be helpfull for all of us,

    to discover, what would drive some one to kill his brothers.

    This is not something you did not know about, but I am

    trying to put things in prespective.

     

    At the same time, think about methods of conflict

    resolution and what should be our roll ? should we inflame

    the situation more or act as mediums? It is all up to us.

     

    Thanks-

     

    Jeesto.

  12. Posted

    Wishing you-trollers and every nomad Happy Shinning Good day!

    May our nation witness the death of the old, cruel and ignorant and

    the birth of what is good and humane-

     

    Jeesto.

  13. Posted

    "We are living full of Stress, natural

    disasters, econimical, Plotical, and

    Socail problems. My aim is to minimize

    this stress. Please let us communicate

    by smiling."

     

    -B.Girma, World Record Holder in non-stop laughter as was quoted

    by BBC news in 2003.

  14. Posted

    **Brii-i-i-i-i-i-iiiiii-i-i-iii-ii-ng!**

     

    "Hello? Hi! Yeah. What's up? Uh-huh. Me too. Eh, nothing much.

    In the middle of a movie. What? No, I didn't yet. Wait.hold on.

    People are being rude and throwing things at me."

     

    Athero Che,

     

    That would be fun. The probem is that I live under Geedhoostii,

    where cell phone can't pick up signal. Hehe.

  17. Posted

    Midkoo yaakhii ah intuu mirqaan dhaafay ayaa

    madiibad weyn oo biyo indhaha ahaayeen oo

    sidan oo kale u fiirin mooday bada cas.

     

    Waxaa u sawirantay halkii uu ku dhuflayn jiray.

    Maquuro uu is dhahay. Miskiinka, madiibadkii

    biyuhu ka buuxeen yo dhulka oo difaac adag

    ku jira aya deetana ka yiraahdeen maxaad noo dhiibatay.

     

    In ta hore iyo kabtaa sanqaroorka ah ayaa

    qaliin loo la cararay. Dr.Bidaar aa ku sanco bartay.

     

    Aabaday, jaadku waa balaayo. Mararka

    qaar ilkaha ayuu kaa tuuri. Qurbush!

     

    Abaadirow soo aruuuri caashaqa. Hehe.

  20. Posted

    It is crucial to notate that

    the O'gaden National Liberation

    Front-ONLF has done everything in

    their power to unshackle the chains

    of occupation and oppression in the

    O'gaden region. These men and women

    are not only engaged in a military

    war against the unconstitutional

    government of Ethiopia , but also a

    political one.

     

    Decolonization is a painful and

    difficult process that requires

    more than using force and weapons

    to defend and emancipate a country.

    The O'gaden war between Somalia and

    Ethiopia is a great example as to why

    a political war is just as decisive

    as a military one.

     

    The ONLF is establishing

    prominent relationships,

    connecting with influential

    countries, and declaring our

    independence to the world both

    on and off the battlefield.

    The exclusive right to control

    a government, a country and its

    people requires more than a

    successful military machine; it

    requires the use of tactics and

    strategy to gain and establish a

    powerful relationship with

    influential countries, and

    organizations within the

    international community.

     

    The fate of O'gadenia rests on the ONLF,

    and its success will not be measured by

    how well they fight to make it sovereign,

    but also how well they fight to keep

    its sovereign. Their interaction with

    other countries and organizations today

    will ensure their success against

    outside influences tomorrow!

     

    Mr.Qalbi is in a state of confusion,

    hence why he believes that:

    ONLF is like a typical rag tag clan militias

    When the ONLF is in fact strategizing

    on a course of action that will lead us

    to our victory beyond the battleground.

    You can’t have a house with just a roof,

    the same way you can’t have sovereignty

    with only military conquest.

     

    The fate of our region is contingent

    on more than one pillar, and how we

    establish these pillars will determine

    our success in either thriving like Kosovo

    or failing like Somaliland!

     

    It is also essential to stress that

    the ONLF may not wish for a "broad

    and somali strategy of dealing with

    ethiopians, in which everyone will

    support it" as he would like us to

    believe, they ARE moving the coveted

    self-determination ideal forward

    with out standing advancement that

    put many military strategies

    and tactics to shame! It doesn’t

    take a genius to acknowledge

    the accomplishments attained by

    the ONLF with their prevailing

    policies and proceedings.

     

    I honestly believe he is ill equipped

    with the fundamental knowledge

    and wisdom required to write about

    the ONLF or their objectives. His

    thoughts and ideas are the consequence

    of bias and prejudice information

    that arose from limited research and

    sources. Individuals who are informed

    on the platform of the ONLF and politics

    in general, would have been too ashamed

    to ask the questions that were asked by

    Mr.Qalbi. An individual who goes

    out of his way to incorporate words like

    “broad and Somali stategy” should know

    better than bringing silly arguments

    which are based on fallacious garbage

    that lacks candor and dependability

    like:

    They are nothing more than tuugo who go around terrorizing somali villages.

    He has proven his knowledge of the

    English language, but when will he

    prove his knowledge of politics and

    the guiding principles of common sense?.

    I’m interested in knowing when

    we stopped blaming the perpetrators

    of these crimes, and started blaming

    the only individuals in the region

    (and the world) who sought to do

    something about these crimes?

    The stup!dity of that particular

    statement almost deterred me from

    responding to his posts.

     

    When it comes to the problems in the region,

    he holds a doctorate in listing them,

    but when it comes to listing beneficial solutions

    as a means of overcoming these problems,

    he proves to be limited. These limitations

    are confirmed by a few more inane and idiotic

    questions like:

    why is it some somali groups are more willing

    to colloborate with ethiopians than work with ONLF?”

    And What has the ONLF achieved?

    The ONLF is the only body making a

    difference in the region, and since

    he is in opposition to their policy

    and tactics, why doesn't he devise

    different methods and means to liberate

    our people? What is standing in his way?

    It’s obvious he thinks he can do a better

    job than the ONLF, so why doesn’t he?

    Why did he insist on writing this geberidh

    one line posts, when he should have spent

    his time writing a policy

    devoted to the liberation of our region?

    I have decided that he is all talk and

    no action!

     

    He needs to start contributing to the cause

    sitting behind a screen criticing those who

    have is not good enough!

     

    His lack of contribution lost him the

    credibilty to speak of our region and

    behalf of the population in the region,

    not to mention the integrity to question

    the ONLF and their policies!

     

    number one solution changing the name and giving

    leadership positions to somali's from different clans

    that live in somali galbeed

    ^^Is the last opinion Mr.QAlbi got

    and it is the one that shines light on his

    posts a whole. The people and their

    unfortunate circumstance is not the issue,

    nor the resonthat inspires him to post.

    The name of the region is the princible

    rreason he chose to bore us with these

    opinions and ideas. The ONLF is not the

    heart of the argument, as was once

    perceived but what that O in the name i

    represents. The term O'gaden has been

    depicted as a malignat tumor in the

    minusculminds of men and women who

    continou to elevate its significance

    above the heartbreaking condition in

    our oppressed torn region. As always,

    I'm fighting the urge to throw up!

     

    He uses unification as grounds to defend his opinion

    on account of changing the name of the region from

    O'gadenia to “something more unifying”. For some strange

    reason, I was under the impression that oppression

    was a better reason for unification than what a region

    outside our control was dubbed. What could I have

    been thinking? How silly of me! Lets entertain this

    idea for a minute and articulate changing the name

    from O'gadenia to little Somalia . Is it lawful? Geographically

    renaming a state that is outside your control is as

    effective as renaming a child who doesn’t belong to you.

     

    As of today, O'gadenia is under the control of Ethiopia,

    and renaming it is out of the question. The name was

    given to the region by colonial powers, and it is because

    of colonial powers that forbid us from changing it.

    Since we’re exploring possibilities, let’s argue that

    Meles Zenawi was kind enough to allow the ONLF--who

    happen to be at war with him--to change the name of a

    region that is undergoing genocide; what will change?

    Will we miraculously become independent? Will those

    who stood on the sideline under the guise of exclusion

    immediately join us to defend the struggle and forward

    the liberation movement? What guarantee do we have

    that changing the name will result in a unification

    that should have been formed under the banner of ending

    oppression? The population as a whole is suffering

    from the same tyranny and enduring the same problems

    despite their tribe, gender and age. So if unification

    was implausible under the umbrella of liberation and freedom

    for ALL, why is it plausible under the umbrella of altering

    the name? You are welcome to argue that the regime is

    targeting a single tribe, the ONLF was created for the

    sole purpose of that tribe, and the other tribes who live

    there are unaffected by the campaign of cruelty and

    oppression that is unleashed in the region. Changing

    the name in order to inspire other groups to join the

    single-tribal cause would then make sense; doing so would

    actually make his argument practical, not to mention

    credible. However, this is not the case. Other groups

    in the region are suffering as much as the O'gaden

    tribe and the name is not the cause of this oppression;

    the right to exist in a region controlled by a tyrant is.

    The more we stop seeing the name as some kind of a magic

    pill that will result in a astonishing victory, the more

    we’ll be able to unite under one cause and free the region

    from a demented dictator in Addis Ababa. I wonder

    which is more important to him and his ilk, the oppression

    or the name. Ultimately, Mr.Qalbi's judgment to change

    the name of the region for the purpose of unity makes him

    naive and his argument impractical.

     

    He dedicates an entire posts to tribalism. He makes an

    issue out of the fact that the ONLF is predominantly

    supported by the O'gaden tribe and how this tribe is

    the backbone of the organization. It is true that

    the majority of the population in the region is O'gaden

    (hence the name). It is also true that the ONLF is

    predominantly O'gaden, and so are their supporters.

    What does this have to do with anything? This is as ridiculous

    as commenting on the predominant race in the U.S population

    and the government as a means to discredit the Obama

    administration. He concludes in his last post with

    Hell, I'm willing to donate some money and support

    the cause if it was organized and inclusive group.

    What is that he could do for the cause when out

    of one side of his mouth he says he is willing

    to support ONLF but the RESULTS of the policies he

    supports give victory to Ethiopians, victory to Isticmaarka

    aan ku jirno? Even worse in fact is the tone of his position.

    In terms of tone he obviously supports almost everyone

    who opposes O'gadens' positions in the world. Matterr

    of fact , I never hear him here condem the mindless

    killing led by Tigre and to that handling of innocent

    civilian to the Wayane. If someone asks he will say he

    opposes it but its always half hearted and after he has

    been questioned about it. The ONLF welcomesindividuals

    who are interested in making a difference in the region,

    despite their tribe, gender or age! One indication

    that an individual is intellectually deficient is when

    he starts using inadequate premise to defend a hopeless

    conclusion. What a waste of time!

     

    During the revolutionary war, Americans were divided

    into different ethnic groups but chose to unite to fight

    a revolutionary war despite these differences. They won

    their war, not because George Washington begged or bribed

    them, but because their desire to become independent

    overpowered their desire to sit back and wait for an

    official invitation. If our civilians do not wish to

    join forces with the ONLF to end an undignified subjection,

    then that is their problem. I refuse to entertain

    the idea of bribing these individuals to make a difference

    in their OWN lives! The last time I checked, God did not

    give the ONLF a direct order to come to the rescue of

    the Somali population in the region. These men and women

    CHOSE to transform the region and to dramatically

    change the situation for the betterment of their people!

    Their representation should not be mistaken for an attempt

    to dissolve the people of their responsibilities;

    each man is responsible for himself and his family!

    If individuals in the region refuse to contribute

    to the cause, then whatever fate befalls them is their own doing.

     

    The ONLF is doing their part, when will Mr.Qalbi and those like

    him join the fight? When will the unjustified criticism

    end and the resourcefulness begin? I am sick and tired of

    hearing condescending demands from raving id!ots whose only

    contribution to the region is to deplete Meles Zenawi of

    war crimes. Their obsession with the name given to the

    region is sickening and their assertion for speaking

    on behalf of the people in the region is insulting.

    The people in the O'gaden want individuals who comprehend

    their struggle to speak for them, not individuals

    who pretend to understand their struggle as a method of

    attack against the ONLF. Mr.Qalbi is using the people in

    the region as an excuse to show aggression towards the

    ONLF, not because of their policies, but because of the

    intimidation the name that was given to the region presents.

    He and others like him harbor the mistaken belief that

    the ONLF is responsible for giving birth to a name that

    was given to the region more than a hundred years before

    the ONLF came into existence. The ONLF derives its name

    from the region. The O represents the region and its inhabitants;

    it does not represent the O'gaden tribe! The sooner

    individuals like Mr.Qalbi act in accordance with the governing

    laws of logic and reason, the better! I want to judge the

    individuals like Mr.Qalbi as rational and sensible beings,

    and until they give me a reason to, I can’t afford to

    see them as anything more than the product.

  21. Posted

    Reading Mr. Qalbi's's post I came to the conclusion

    that he is both disillusioned and a careless fellow.

    Instead of pondering what can be done for O'gadenya

    today he went on hopeless literature assault

    against one of the very few organizations

    that are doing SOMETHING today.

     

    For one thing, ONLF is NOT an exclusive club as Mr. Qalbi

    suggests, anyone who wishes to participate in the

    organization and whose family resides in the O'gaden

    can become a member, secondly, ONLF is not a secret

    cult in which ,Its military operation is kept untold

    instead nearly every military victory is posted on the

    internet and other media outlets. A prime example is this.

     

    Reading the below passage from Mr. Qalbi attempt at

    literature script was interesting.

     

     

    What has the ONLF achieved? besides singing, and dancing

    like some brain-dead monkies.

     

    These guys are quite possibly the most useless resistance

    movement in the history of resistance movements.

     

    They have done no such thing, and somali's from other

    groups in somali galbeed don't want anything to do with

    the ONLF primates, those are the facts.

     

    Is the ONLF completely financed by o.gaden diaspora

    or are there others involved?

     

    Is there any city under their control? no.

     

    They are nothing more than tuugo who go around terrorizing

    somali villages.

     

    ONLF has been unsuccessful for years and have no made

    any gains simply because the rebel movement is a narrow

    minded clan movement.

     

    ONLF will continue to be nothing more than a nuisance

    to the ethiopian regime.

     

    They haven't been that successful in making the struggle

    a somali struggle rather than a 'o.ganden' struggle.

     

    They are interested in clan pride and hegemony like

    typical somali's.

     

    It’s really laughable to hear such ridiculous statements,

    especially coming from a supposedly well educated

    fellow. Such statements are expected from people who

    have mentally become cuckoo or who are desperate.

     

    It was equally laughable at how Mr. Qalbi foolishly

    tried to connect the dots between singing,

    dancing-luxury life-style and the ONLF.

     

    First , any one with his state of mind will agree

    that the Ethiopians are the # one enemy of Ogadeens

    for centuries, and they are responsible the suffering

    of our people .

     

    Secondly, any one who is man enough to sacrifice their

    life unlike most of us by taking arms against the enemy

    is a hero and needs to be supported and backed regardless

    of what they call them selves.

     

    Mind you ONLF is an independent organization in which

    its officers are drawn from the masses in the Ogadeens.

     

    It’s also helpful to remember that admired today by any

    person who sides with the Oppressed and fights for

    Freedom are the valiant fighters of the Ogadeens National

    Liberation Front (ONLF).

     

    Their great efforts and heroic deeds are all an Ogadeeni

    can possibly count on today; if O'gaden will become

    a free and independent country, this will be mainly

    due to the determined fight of the ONLF.

     

    However, if ONLF was/is built clanism or more ever

    if they did not know how their people are suffering

    as Mr. Qalbi would care to tell us it would have annihilated

    long time ago by itself.

     

    Again, mind you, ONLF is an Organization united by an ideology,

    not a tribe. It's members belong all kind of Somali

    tribes, even though O'gadeen tribe is the majority,

    but that doesn't mean ONLF belongs to only O'gadeen tribe.

     

    Having said that, there are those of us who think

    beyond tribal line. Therefore, perhaps Mr. Qalbi should

    double check his bold proclamations and then reflects on it.

     

    The writings of Mr. Qalbi look desperate. Instead

    of posting and posturing solutions to our problems

    he went on a time wasting exercise of writing up silly,

    confused, and wet rough draft. Lets just hope that his

    colleagues don’t read what he wrote.

     

     

    The citizens of O'gadenia pray for the social deviants-

    Jeesto.

  23. Posted

    Yeah,

     

    That may sound like a big deal but just had to ask.

     

    It may be a few weeks before we get try again as she is going on

    a trip between the college semesters, but.. I may be back with good news.

     

     

    Fanks habo Val kindly. icon_razz.gifsmile.gif

    Originally posted by Valenteenah:

    Dude, that's too much info.

  24. Posted

    Yello.

     

    I've been noticing that when my fiancee and I have sex,

    it seems like I always have to initiate it.

     

    The sex is very good, but I just wish she would be more

    spontaneous and just have her be the one to turn me on first.

     

    Any geesiyad have suggestions on what might help? Fanks! icon_razz.gif