^^ Did I forget to tell you that in addition to my good looks, wisdom, intelligence and charm I am also - deep down - a very sensitive and vulnerable soul! It's not easy being me you know. Ps The kitten is trying to climb to the ceiling via the window curtains.

^^Does Angelina adopt African children? I thought, like our Sheh, she only liked Cambodian kids. Madonna is the African lover. LOZ, Just because it upset you and I'm not in the habit of upsetting people from the outback I hereby authorise you to delete my offending post(s).

Update: The cat had its lunch from one end and decided to bring it out of the other end. She was a good girl though and did her business in the cat-litter box. When she was finished she thought it would be great fun to wipe its bottom on my carpet. So, that's what she did! Lucky that the colour of the carpet is dark already or anyone that walks here would notice the skid marks.

Originally posted by LayZieGirl: Whatever made you say that? Ngonge knows I adore him, don't u eedo? No truer words were ever spoken, eedo I love you too. This is why I insist that you work on your reading. Do it for me, eedo. Focus now.

Originally posted by SheekhaJacaylka: Let us talk about beauty from a different angle! It’s the fundamental right of every woman to look beautiful. Every woman wants to listen the sweet words “you are beautiful”. What a load of cobblers

Originally posted by -Serenity-: Tagsiile, I'm not sure a cab-driver is pronounced Tagsiile in Soomaali. Where I come from, its Taksiile, with a K. No it's not. Particularly where you come from. The K sound is almost totally ignored and replaced by the letter G. Try and guess the following English words pronounced by people from your town: Box Six Next Text ps The Somali language is fantastic in parts and ugly in others. Sometimes it is so descriptive that one can actually clearly picture the thing, issue or event being described. It's beautiful but it can also cross the line at times. I mean you complain about mid la furay, mid la fara xumeeyay ka warama! Could you, in all the languages in god's green earth, ever come up with an expression as ugly as that? And it is one that is used in polite society (ciyaal suuq are the same the world over; no point in scrutinising their colourful language).

Originally posted by -Lily-: ^^ You're quiet disturbed. It's idle gossip. Not really worth having a five page discussion over. Since the whole thing is like some sort of bad episode of Crime Watch, I thought I'd do my bit for the community with some reconstruction. Maybe the use of actual humans disturbed you. Ok, let me try again. Here is how a stab works (now imagine the woman behind the knife, the man behind the wheel and the traffic behind everything else):

How glamorous!

^^ Did it kill anyone?

^^ For you? ceeb caleek. Free of course. As long as your real name is not Waran-cadde

I may go home early Lets just hope she does some poo poo here

The spitting image of the kitten above is sitting on my desk right now. I think it's going to be a long day in the office.

Originally posted by Khalaf: NG, i don't think google will provide me the daleel that was used from the Quran and Sunnah to arrive at those conclusions, thats why i wanted to understand the ruling. Kinda confused. From what i hear this is practiced largely in the Kingdom and Eygpt and is very popular, because getting married is very expensive, this marraige makes it easier (and both parties agree),the man doesnt have to to live with or financially support the woman, the wife forgoes either her nights or her right to expenditure, this is written in contract. Hmm did nabi scw use written contracts in marriage? What is the definition of marriage in Islamic law is the question? Quran says financial burden is on the men, but if woman agrees she needs no maintance, its okey? I even heard, Sheikh Bin Baz made marriage with intention of divorce/time specfic (like mut’ah marriage of shia's=clear zina haraam no?) halal for students. Allah knows best. but why not tackle the problems of Suadi society for example to make marriage easier, or encourage ppl to marry young? :confused: . But isn't it fair to say, that if someone hears the scholars from mecca (right or wrong in this context), and does have misyer marriage or even muata shia marriage, that they have no blame/sin themselves, but its scholars who carry the burden? That logic is used by some. quote: This brings us to the issue of intention. And, frankly, who is to know the intentions of anyone! ^^^u do, yourself.... It's a confusing world we live in, saaxib. What makes things even more confusing is when I have to argue with you without knowing if you understand the basics or deliberately choose to ignore them. Be that as it may, do you accept the concept of fatwa or don't you? If you do then you'll accept that these scholars have deliberated and reached this fatwa. You'll also agree that (based on their superior knowledge) this fatwa is valid. Still, if you remain unconvinced by it or uncomfortable with it, you are more than free to ignore it. Having said that, this will not change the validity of the fatwa itself. Doubt is good, suspicion is not. It is NOT about what the prophet did or did not do. We are faced daily with new concepts, arguments, situations and problems that the prophet was not faced with in his time. This is where the scholars come in and issue their educated fatwas. These fatwas are legitimate, valid and acceptable in Islam. This is simple stuff, saaxib. Italics girl, I would attempt to pull your hair, call you names and have an online girly fight with you but it would be pointless, my dear. You don't have the attention span to even bother reading the words before you decide to make your assumptions so what really is the point! Go make yourself a nice cup of tea, come back and read my earlier words (slowly), understand them, and then I may bother descending down to your juvenile level of debate. As for others that are talking about sex, boyfriends and girlfriends, my words were clear you illiterate simpletons! This is about MARRIAGE not simple sex or living in sin. And NO, it is not about temporary marriage. As long as the ISLAMIC conditions for marriage are in place it is as valid as that of your/my grandmother and grandfather's one. Maybe I should write this one off as being the result of a long day of fasting. Or maybe I should not and should go into a long lecture about reading and comprehending. Better be charitable (against my better nature) I guess…

Improve it.

^^^ Though the logic of fear is understandable, the laws of these lands give one the freedom to contest such racist profiling. Having said that, they only do so when one believes they have been singled out in an unfavourable and unfair way. Having seen Khayer’s wild exaggerations I tend to take his words mostly with a pinch of salt. Maybe if it were someone else I would have been bothered to wax lyrical about the unfairness of it all.

Khalaf, As you can see from the article and the quote below they have approved it as long as the Islamic conditions for marriage are fulfilled, saaxib. As long as both parties consent to the marriage, there is a meher involved ,there are witnesses present and the marriage is publicised then the conditions are all fulfilled. The only snag is in the financial rights of the woman but that was already dealt with by the scholars in their fatwa for the misyar marriage. If you want proof you better go and google it, saaxib. The argument that these teenagers will only marry for sex is redundant. Most people marry for sex anyway (or at least it plays a major part in the decision making). However, the Islamic Sharia managed to beat the traditions during a meeting held by more than 60 Muslim scholars in Mecca on April 12, 2006. On that occasion, the Islamic Fiqh Academy approved mysiar and friend marriages, provided that the basic principles and conditions of marriage were fulfilled and that there were no prohibitions. As you can see, where it differs from mut'aa marriage is in the fact that there is no end date set in place. This brings us to the issue of intention. And, frankly, who is to know the intentions of anyone! The Islamic way of doing it (as far as I understand) is to hope for the best and avoid making hostile assumptions.

I love the way that even though it says it in the article a few of you still think this person is a man! Heh. It's a woman, you blind people. By Western standards it's quite a vote winner to be honest. Though I'm sure it's merely an election gimmick of course. Still, if it even becomes a law it would most certainly entail the idea of prenuptials, expenses and the sharing of wealth and personal effects. All these being serious problems affecting the western world today, I foresee many men and wealthy people voting for her.

Originally posted by *BOB: If their parents are Shia...they wont have any problem with the idea as Shias have been doing it for ages and their girls normally 'marry' every guy they feel something for and as soon as the guy fails to show her the stars and the moon...off he goes and she sets her sights on the next guy who's potentially capable of showing her the stars in the light of the day...and they call it Mut'a or 'Mudhca'... Marka...Would anyone in here want his/her daughter to marry every "boyfriend" she has...because how many boyfriends does the average girl has in her life-time before she finally marries one out of desperation and not love after she realises that she's into her mid 30's? This whole boyfriend/girlfriend thing is MONKEY BUSINESS and it's not something that a Muslim person should even contemplate on...and Islam doesn't allow such corrupt marriage. Salam Aleikum W.W Peace, Love & Unity. Looks like the fasting and hunger is getting to you there, brother. For at a few clicks of your fingers youطve branded all shia women as harlots and fornicators! I realise how vulgar it is to even begin to argue with someone making such a spectacular generalisation but still canطt help myself. Still, I shall not go into the argument about the shia practices or ideology, thatطs a complicated argument that I donطt wish to go into, again. However, I would still like to attract your attention to the gross offence you make by assuming that ALL shia families agree to and allow their girls to indulge in such marriages. Adeer, there are millions of atheist and non-believing women who would feel disgusted with the idea of this kind of marriage, do you not then think that some of our shia sisters would also be against such a thing? Bal ka fakar before you let your tongue run away with you. One the second point, which is something that Lily above was trying to argue, who can tell how marriages end up? A fifty year old mature man could marry an eighty year old mature woman and they may still get divorced a week later (because their goals in life have changed, etc). Surely it is about the pure intention in the first place! Now if two teenagers are attracted to each other and are in each other's pockets day and night, it's better to marry them off and hope that the marriage would last than turning our noses up at them and saying CEEB, CEEB, CEEB! Life and faith are simple, don't go complicating them. As for your last point about Islam not allowing it, I put the article and link for that sole reason you know! It turns out that the Academy of Islamic fiqh does approve. Should we listen to you instead because you find it distasteful? Granted, not many people would marry their sons and daughters in such a way and this type of marriage will not be suitable for everyone. However, it's a case of choice and intention. Should the intention be right and the choice acceptable one really can't see a problem there. In fact, ahalu-el-celm themselves don't seem to be having a problem with it. But you know best I guess. Ps I once saw an 18 year old girl marry out of desperation. Oday lacag leh ba hor kufay.

^^^^ I think you'll probably find that most teenagers have the intention of staying with each other forever and ever and ever. Because they love each other so so much and they are meant for each other and they know that by the fact that when the boy lifts his right eyebrow the girls lifts her left eyebrow...

^^^ Yet the Islamic Fiqh Academy approves Patching up Chastity! Jameel Theyabi Al-Hayat - 19/02/07 When the Saudi media delicately tackled the issue of the Misyar marriage about ten years ago, some Muslim scholars and sheikhs stood firmly against these incoming 'Western' ideas. Some of them issued fatwas forbidding this form of marriage, while others just refused to legitimize it, without even knowing the difficult social conditions and the increasing challenges being faced by Muslim minorities. When this form of marriage became a reality and was declared legitimate by some jurisprudents, Yemeni sheikh Abdel Majid al-Zindani pronounced a fatwa in which he allowed a so-called 'friend marriage'. This sparked fierce controversy around the Arab and Muslim worlds, especially because the sheikh, who is the president of the al-Eman University, persisted with his opinions. He stressed that it was an easy way of marriage, and explained that any boy and girl can be legally married without having to live in the same house. They can temporarily commit themselves to seeing each other then returning to their parents' homes. Under different slogans, al-Zindani's fatwa was met with mixed reactions at the time. Some supported it, while others opposed it. However, the Islamic Sharia managed to beat the traditions during a meeting held by more than 60 Muslim scholars in Mecca on April 12, 2006. On that occasion, the Islamic Fiqh Academy approved mysiar and friend marriages, provided that the basic principles and conditions of marriage were fulfilled and that there were no prohibitions. It now seems that the issue will cause another very sensitive dispute this time, especially after Egypt's mufti sheikh Ali Gomaa came up with very bold opinions about hymenoplasty. Gomaa stressed that Islam dictates that we do not expose others, "which makes it legal for a girl who has lost her virginity, whatever the reason is, to have her hymen repaired, if this will help her safeguard her reputation". Despite the strong opposition to this fatwa, some people support it provided that it meets some Sharia conditions and that the issue is discussed at the jurisdictional level. This fatwa may help many girls, some of whom are repentant while others have lost their virginity because of rape or abduction. In such cases, hymenoplasty would safeguard their reputations and save their lives and futures. Last Friday, February 16, 2007, a Malaysian clergyman proposed something that would take women back to the Middle Ages. Like some European women used to do at the time, he suggested that women wear a chastity belt as a means to protect them from rape. Abu Hassan Din Al-Hafiz, a prominent Muslim cleric from the state of Terengganu, said this belt would make women feel safe and help them avoid any attempted sexual assaults. He was quoted by the "Daily Star" newspaper as saying during a religious lecture: "We have even come across a number of unusual sex cases, where even senior citizens and children were not spared." He also pointed out that "the best way to avert sex offenders is to wear protection". Malaysian women used to put chastity belts on until the mid-1960s. Al-Hafiz's words have infuriated the Malaysian women and brought them to describe what he said as "nonsense". I hope the Islamic Fiqh Academy will discuss the possibility of allowing a woman to patch up her hymen and issue a clear fatwa about this topic. I also hope that not everyone will be allowed to issue fatwas about thorny and very sensitive issues. The Muslim nation's scholars and jurisprudents have to conduct more research and studies about what women are and are not allowed to do, while taking into account the principle of their reputation if their repentance is proved or if they have been raped or abducted. Source

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^^ Caano, You both must look real shifty. Originally posted by Khayr: Can you imagine what was going through my mind??? Oh yes we can. Khayer's mind: How dare these stinking infidels stop my blessed car! He touched the window, the pig eating gaal touched my window. I must remember to wipe it with bleach and a rich sprinkling of xaba sood when I get home. :mad: Allaho Akbar. He's questioning my legal status! These kuffar are profiling me. They want me out of this country. I don't care for their infidel laws, I'll only leave when I AM ready. Here he comes back again. I must smile. I must have sabir and force myself to smile. S-M-I-L-E! "Everything ok, officer?"

^^^ Read above. Welcome back North

^^ ...well there is Lilly, Dahia, Ms D&D and Cano G. But they're not consistent enough for comment. (This is what we've been reduced to now). ps Whatever happened to Rahima by the way? That one always made me feel like a naughty little boy being told off by the headmistress.

But I am here. (what people?)